Hi all !
I am Michael.
I have a Wife, we are married since 35Years, kids are out house.
A few years ago we took our friend and bookkeeper with us for some month holiday to a cottage - she had a nasty breakup.
She made advances that time, i blocked it beyond some kissing.
My wife and I share totally everything - we have no secrets.
We offered her to come with us permanent and leave Germany for some new things, she was not game for this.
Planned was that we buy a canadian farm and raise horses, habe a menage au trois, and enjoy life.
She was unsure to leave parents, family, kids e.g.
(sorry for language i am no native english)
Now she has a new man, and she is still attracted to us, especially me.
I already have been openly flirtatious with other women as long as m wife likes them.
I never would hurt her.
I feel that she is game and we diskussed taking Katharina into out relationship, like we did before.
She was away with Katharinas man for some fun and she will never accept or do something with him as he is (beta, phlegma, intelligent but philosophical not practical without a fixed way) opposite as she would like.
He is the opposite of me.
She likes Katharina - they harmonize perfekt as they are totally different but share same prinziples of integrity.
I told Katharina that she can only have me (we are in the "touchy/kissing/teasing" phase ) - if she drops him.
I thought that this would be in Karins interest too.
Now he approached me telling me that he sees his situation not as the leader of the pack but as advisor of the king (we are the rich couple, we would have to set the way/rules for living/expenses e.g,)
My wife approaches me and tells me it is not a problem, in a dog team or at wolfes there are allways "beta males" and i should accept it, he can be helpful in many ways if he is on board.
I invited Katharina next weekend without him, the weekend after with him.
I am a little confused.
As the "alpha" of the process i want to make the transition as smooth and comfortable for all the involved persons as possible.
We have been with Katharina to Spa's and naked resorts and know each other, but we have not done more than "sensual" sex, hugging/kissing.
He has never been with.
My Wife suggests taking both to a public spa with naked areas (neutral ground) to get him relaxed and do some nice hours together as a next step.
What obstacles to avoid?
There is a lot of things i see upfront, a lot she is concerned also. Katharina tells, she does not want to drop him as living openly together with us is problematic with her parents and kids as they and the partners of the kids might not accept such a lifestyle even if it fits us and her. Her parents are very "oldstyle".
Where are the key things i have to look into if i want to lead the process?
I am Michael.
I have a Wife, we are married since 35Years, kids are out house.
A few years ago we took our friend and bookkeeper with us for some month holiday to a cottage - she had a nasty breakup.
She made advances that time, i blocked it beyond some kissing.
My wife and I share totally everything - we have no secrets.
We offered her to come with us permanent and leave Germany for some new things, she was not game for this.
Planned was that we buy a canadian farm and raise horses, habe a menage au trois, and enjoy life.
She was unsure to leave parents, family, kids e.g.
(sorry for language i am no native english)
Now she has a new man, and she is still attracted to us, especially me.
I already have been openly flirtatious with other women as long as m wife likes them.
I never would hurt her.
I feel that she is game and we diskussed taking Katharina into out relationship, like we did before.
She was away with Katharinas man for some fun and she will never accept or do something with him as he is (beta, phlegma, intelligent but philosophical not practical without a fixed way) opposite as she would like.
He is the opposite of me.
She likes Katharina - they harmonize perfekt as they are totally different but share same prinziples of integrity.
I told Katharina that she can only have me (we are in the "touchy/kissing/teasing" phase ) - if she drops him.
I thought that this would be in Karins interest too.
Now he approached me telling me that he sees his situation not as the leader of the pack but as advisor of the king (we are the rich couple, we would have to set the way/rules for living/expenses e.g,)
My wife approaches me and tells me it is not a problem, in a dog team or at wolfes there are allways "beta males" and i should accept it, he can be helpful in many ways if he is on board.
I invited Katharina next weekend without him, the weekend after with him.
I am a little confused.
As the "alpha" of the process i want to make the transition as smooth and comfortable for all the involved persons as possible.
We have been with Katharina to Spa's and naked resorts and know each other, but we have not done more than "sensual" sex, hugging/kissing.
He has never been with.
My Wife suggests taking both to a public spa with naked areas (neutral ground) to get him relaxed and do some nice hours together as a next step.
What obstacles to avoid?
There is a lot of things i see upfront, a lot she is concerned also. Katharina tells, she does not want to drop him as living openly together with us is problematic with her parents and kids as they and the partners of the kids might not accept such a lifestyle even if it fits us and her. Her parents are very "oldstyle".
Where are the key things i have to look into if i want to lead the process?
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