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Old 06-19-2013, 05:54 PM
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She orgasms fine with toys. But, her husband is jealous and angry about her using them. (I know-that's a topic for later).

He expects her to give him oral and manual stimulation as well as intercourse. But-he won't perform manually or orally on her and doesn't appreciate the toy use... (again-respect issue I already started addressing)
Seriously sounds like they also have some bigger issues that need to be addressed in counceling.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:03 PM
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In your friend's shoes, I hope I'd be thinking about divorce and then focus on my own sexual pleasure.

Having said that, I rather like this article (and loads of the stuff on the site too )

http://dodsonandross.com/blogs/betty...ening-clitoris
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:17 PM
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Maybe the women who can't orgasm just need a bigger dick. Maybe the woman in the OP can't orgasm because her husband IS a big dick, but doesn't HAVE a big dick. Like a Virgin is a metaphor for big dicks. Morning afternoon and night - dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick DICK.

How many dicks was that?

A LOT.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:13 PM
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it's not a "large majority" who can't orgasm from penetration alone
I don't orgasm from penetration with my husband very often (probably only about 25% of the time or less). With my ex-boyfriend, I orgasmed from penetration at least 90% of the time. It's not that my husband makes me feel less valued then my boyfriend did, it's totally to do with the difference physically between the two of them.

rest of your rant is really just not worth addressing.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:46 PM
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it's not a "large majority" who can't orgasm from penetration alone
I'm sure there is a survey somewhere of how many women achieve orgasm by which methods. If a difference of agreement needs to happen I presume the arguing parties will present their data. Otherwise it's anecdotal. Not that I have a problem with anecdotal evidence; I just have a problem watching people argue using it as if it were an axiom of reality.

Something I'd like to personally add to the conversation; I don't think it's responsible to put the burden of ones orgasm onto someone else. If her hubby isn't into eating pussy then that's his business, it's not his responsibility to do 'whatever it takes' for her to achieve orgasm certainly if her ability to do so is hinged upon something that he specifically doesn't enjoy. My orgasm is my responsibility; if my partner isn't doing the one thing that I need to happen and they have told me they aren't interested in doing it... maybe I can just enjoy what I *am* getting. Then I can go do whatever it is that makes me cum with someone else (or on my own).

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How many dicks was that?

A LOT.
Quite a bit of dick just happened there.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:03 PM
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Something I'd like to personally add to the conversation; I don't think it's responsible to put the burden of ones orgasm onto someone else. If her hubby isn't into eating pussy then that's his business, it's not his responsibility to do 'whatever it takes' for her to achieve orgasm certainly if her ability to do so is hinged upon something that he specifically doesn't enjoy. My orgasm is my responsibility; if my partner isn't doing the one thing that I need to happen and they have told me they aren't interested in doing it... maybe I can just enjoy what I *am* getting. Then I can go do whatever it is that makes me cum with someone else (or on my own).
Except that in this case her husband is jealous and angry at her for doing what does work for her. So to recap, This husband has no problem placing the burden of his orgasm on her, he isn't willing to provide any stimulation to her that isn't what he's already doing for himself, and he has a problem with her doing what works for herself. I don't think this woman has a problem with placing the burden of her orgasm on someone else, in fact she's already blamed herself for this situation not working.

I guess I mean to say that that comment makes perfect sense if you're not in a relationship where someone feels it's responsible to dictate how the other is allowed to cum. Which is a position I doubt you would find acceptable to begin with.

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:15 PM
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I guess I mean to say that that comment makes perfect sense if you're not in a relationship where someone feels it's responsible to dictate how the other is allowed to cum. Which is a position I doubt you would find acceptable to begin with.
Totally.

LR seemed to not want to get into that particular part of the discussion so I just didn't address it. Yes, someone working *against* your desire to have an orgasm is a totally fucked up situation and (as mentioned earlier) it's more of a divorce issue than an orgasm issue.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:28 PM
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It would probably the part about women having trouble achieving orgasm as being one hundred percent bullshit. How could that be true when there are obviously several women (if not a majority) saying that they do have trouble?

I didn't go to some bullshit website for statistics or any legitimate psychology experiments because I don't believe humans are honest enough to have any experiment that is legitimate science.

I am speaking about women that I have talked to, that I know personally, whom I do believe. In talking with them I have come to the conclusion that if your partner -- to use a term that's more sensitive or politically correct instead of being a dick -- is a little bit on the selfish side in bed, "it's not a majority of women" that have problems orgasming in any way, let alone from penetration alone, all of them have had problems achieving orgasm if the sex was with a lover who was a little on the selfish side.

All of the woman also had little to no problems with a lover who was not at all what most people would think of when they considered a selfish lover

All of the women also conveyed that the longer it took to orgasm often meant more intense orgasms

For the sake of all the people that have my replies blocked, for whatever reason, they would probably appreciate it if you didn't quote me, as then they have no way to not see my words in the comments

no matter how ranty or anecdotal they may be

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:41 PM
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I don't think this woman has a problem with placing the burden of her orgasm on someone else, in fact she's already blamed herself for this situation not working.
That's also fair.

If she feels that there is some kind of shame from not being able to have an orgasm while her self absorbed, controlling husband jabs himself into her... I suppose we are starting from a more simple level of discussion.

I wonder where people are getting the idea that they should be able to have an orgasm on demand. Maybe it's porn or harlequin novels mixed with a simple mind. Or just the fact that it's not a topic that normal folk feel comfortable discussing rationally.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:21 PM
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I think Elusive Orgasm Woman is the same person as the OP of these threads.


After what I said last night, it's funny that I should be pointing this out. If I am correct, that is. It might be someone else, but it sounds like the same people.

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