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Sorry for the short Version? Why would you like me as your friend?

Why?

The last sentence is worth the pain. And i think the process and the discussions will deepen our bonds and love for each other even more.

I am conservative from Mindset and choosen lifestyle, absolute right. But i do not limit her or neither is she dependent on me. She has own factory, appartment buildings and funds. I have same things so we are financially on eye level. She has a big house, carsm whatever she needs. I did gift...

That is surely true. But in Love and Life i do not count money or evaluate "i like that better than this" I am realistic but i know that you cannot buy feelings or that you can buy someone to change a feeling, or that you can make point or "value more" decisions in a long term relation. I am a...

Things are more complicated. Beside our normal child and grandchildren we have a mentally retarded child together. Also, even if we would part, we would meet and see regulary as there are a lot of things we run together, even Katharina would have to be arranged to do the financial work for her...

Galagirl you are right, but you neglect the point that i love her. Parting would hurt her. Cleaning her soul from old burdens will make her more happy - so, easy choice as long as she is willing to improve.

If things are such simple? I told her, that i am not into the monogamous thinking of relations or the sequential polygamy game before our marriage and also later. So this theme is in between us (with highs and lows) for nearly 35 years. Nevertheless i am with her for now a long time. I live...

Katharina is the girl who it is about, Timo her BF - I explained in the other thread.

I agree >75% with you. I will help her through the fears first, help her clean the old issues and process step by step. I want that sparkle in her eyes.

Dagferi, i feel agression in the way you formulate your advise. I feel like someone putting a judgementional statement upon me without even trying to understand the deeper needs and plans of the involved persons. I do not get the idea behind "if you loved your wife", "youd .....". I LOVE MY...

Karin - Wife to me since 35 Y Katharina - Bookkeeper and friend since 10 Y Timo - Katarinas BF since 5 Y Michael - Me I care for my wife and her emotional stability and integrity, i will never force anything upon her. Karins emotional wounds are from the family she comes from, her father and...

Ok. Short Update. Potential Metamour chickened out for today will be there next WE with hubby. My wife told me, her limit is the point if Metamour talks anyday bad about her behind her back ALL ends. So her limits are more at the respekt and trust area not the sex area.

A "I chicken out" attack at the attracted metamour........ She can NOT come this Sunday, she will come with her man next weekend.... (my wife did put the condomes in the drawer -you never know when you need them- and is away with the dogs so we can have time - and she (metamour) chickens like...

Me again. Had a talk with wife and she has some points from her childhood phase in a big mono family with a violent cheating father. The mother was totally dependent on a not at least with a minimum of respect behaving man and had no support net anywhere and 7 children. (sorry english is not...

I agree with you, Galagirl, that Lunabunny laid out things very well on point. She triggered me with her "he is in the way" It is in my character that i take the lead. Hard to suppress. If i sit there and see all of them discuss the same things over and over and know there is only one solution...

Galagirl, i have to reread, YOu deeply thought through it too. You are right in one point. I have to let go of "leadership" and "fear". I have to just accept things as they are whithout driving anyone in any direction.

Lunabunny you are on point. I am nowhere just interested in Sex or "fresh meat". I am thinking on building a long lasting relationship. I am interested in her whole personality as an addition to our life. Actually you got me thinking. I am dishonest and have to reevaluate my motivations and...

Thanks Lunabunny, i will read again, think and sort my ideas and come back to the discussion. You understand deep - and i have to think first.

Evie, thanks. The spa was my wifes idea. I am used to Karin naked, i am used to Katharina naked. He has been in undertrousers in our house in the morning and in shorts in the garden and so it should not be a big step, especially as East-Germans had the FKK Movement. Thanks for your idea of...