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There was a splash though... One of the people who live in our apartment complex sent my wife a message and was like "I have to tell you about some messages S has been sending" and I assume because I could in her world just be trying to be adulterous.

To be honest I read it like this: I am worth, it's just too complicated. So while I would have preferred a yes I do not end up feeling bad. I have found having a stable relationship a great way to avoid disappointment. But so far I have found a few tokens to stake an improved ego on lol

I did end up doing it... I think she was shocked I was attracted to her which was weird, fine with me being in an open marriage, felt weird to spend time with my wife's husband ethically and seemed quite flattered. But alas no go! Still glad to have done something difficult...

But facing up to the challenge, while not easy, is gratifying in the end. So if I am nervous I will be nervous but I would rather be rejected than not know...

Lol the next step is working through some nerves... The fun part is the anxiety disorders...

I appreciate them, thanks! I was just thinking something along these lines ironically just before I opened up the app... I sat down to meditate and sort out some emotions.

Talking to some people about being in an open marriage is pretty easy. Maybe I am close enough with them or they get it for a particular reason making things easy and natural. Some other people I might not know as well, and they might know me well as the 'husband' but they themselves are single...

Certainly no intention to make you feel sad.

Seems like a very insecure musing.

Me neither I suspect. I want to know what the other folk in the thread think. Both about what we said to each other and what the others in the thread said.

Still there's a leap from diverging on thinking there is something greater than self, to refuting spirituality on the basis of there being no stable thing we can presently call a spirit. Even in this thread alone no one predicated being spiritual on having a spirit. Maybe spirituality is no less...

But look at some of the common threads in explaining spirituality from the experience of being a spiritual person. Seeking knowledge, pursuing meaning, knowing there is something greater than yourself, awe, joy, practice, ritual. Principled living. If we were to turn around and ask what an...

Maybe... My conception of things has no stable deity or universal intentionality expected, except in the possible terms of a civilization higher than a type-5 civilization on the Kardashev scale, which I do not necessarily think exists. I have more questions and uncertainties than beliefs or...

The question I find I have given the expressions and descriptions made here is on whether or not belief in a real, non-physical existence is necessary to be truly spiritual, or can a person be spiritual but hold no beliefs about the existence of non-material entities. These days I appear to be...

Hey all... What is spirituality? What is the fundamental base of it? What makes humans or life spiritual? What isn't spiritual? What describes a spiritual being or a spiritual event? What connects you to your spirituality and what is it to you in comparison to physical or even social systems?

I am sorry you went through all that, you were a great friend through it though and I respect you for that. Given how turbulent this situation has been and where it is going, would you trade the sexual friendship you had in order to avoid being there with your friend through their mental health...

I think when we discuss it more my wife does end up settling on this idea that homogeneous relationships settle if relationships settle at all. But there are a lot of unknowns... I wouldn't be surprised if we just had some sexual encounters or a few dates. That being said... I totally went to...

I have contemplated this... I think it's gotta be organic. Like, if I am studying and she's in bed why can't she text? Why not when in the washroom? But maybe not if we're cuddling up with dinner and a show.

As soon as an ontology of partnerships was added it made my inner philosopher go "what exists? what is possible and impossible in this world?"

Does anything larger than a triad ever happen? Like, I don't know, six people living together?