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    The Accidental Polyamorist

    *hugs* Luna. I hope everything goes alright.
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    Single, not ready to mingle

    That's great! Good job!
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    getting over the hurtle of jealousy..

    On the kink side of things, I wonder if part of the issue you're having is that you see it as a role you are playing (you mentioned several times that you need to up the amount of time you RP, which I'm guessing, as a geek myself, is short hand for role-play) while for both Red and Blue being a...
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    In the garden

    *Hugs*
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    The story of Spork.

    It's so incredibly affirming to read someone else who has an attraction filter like this. One night my Dom, Sam, and I were talking about this type of thing. He wanted to know how different actors in movies we watched together rated for me in terms of attraction. I sat there struggling for a...
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    Dumping The Label

    I don't think it would have mattered if we had gotten the point across to Polynatural. They were so convinced that their definition is right because it fits the historical meaning of what the Ravenhearts REALLY meant when creating the word polyamory (I'm still not convinced of that), that they...
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    Dumping The Label

    I don't have a problem with swingers or swinging. It's not something I've done, outside of a very small, intimate friend group who all left a repressive religion at the same time and were exploring their sexuality together in what felt like a safe environment with loving friends. I wouldn't be...
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    Dumping The Label

    But according to Polynatural's argument, you aren't poly either then, Ravencroft, because the whole group isn't poly and interrelated. By his definition, you and everyone in that group are swingers because you are not all heavily involved with each other and the hinges "swing" back and forth...
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    Dumping The Label

    I was chatting with my boyfriend tonight and he did find the idea that if we all aren't having sex, which seems to be what interrelatedness comes down to in this discussion, we're all swingers humourous. It's usually the opposite argument that is heard, that polyamory isn't just about the sex...
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    Dumping The Label

    Polynatural, What writings of the Ravenheart are you using as the basis of your historical foundation for your definition of polyamory? I'm curious because when I read the Wikipedia article on Morning Glory Tell Ravenheart, it linked to this archive of A bouquet of lovers, one of her writings...
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    Dumping The Label

    You can ask me questions about my situation. I'm still going to approach it and answering those questions from the framework of my understanding of the definition of polyamory, because I don't agree with the extremely limited and limiting definition that you give to the word. I won't agree with...
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    Dumping The Label

    But that's my entire point. I don't identify as a swinger, no matter what spin you put on it. I have two romantic partners and I identify as polyamorous. Just because those partners don't sleep together or have a strong friendship, it doesn't mean that I myself am not polyamorous. Sure, the...
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    Dumping The Label

    The problem I see with your writing, if the above is true about the part I was talking about is that no where in the paragraphs I talked about did it state that the system set out by the quotes from More Than Two was something that you didn't believe in. If I had to get more than 5 paragraphs in...
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    Dumping The Label

    Let's remove the whole sentence you quoted from the discussion, since it seems to be what you fixated on. You spend the first three or so paragraphs of the interrelatedness page defining what interrelatedness is using quotes from More than Two. After the paragraphs with those quotes, where you...
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    Dumping The Label

    And the dating thing was merely a hypothetical posed to explain to you why you may not be having the best luck in finding people to date, not anything more. If you need a huge website to explain what poly means to you, that's going to be off putting to more dating partners than not, in my...
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    Dumping The Label

    I find it humourous that you spend several paragraphs establishing that interconnectedness can be as simple as dating the same person, only to turn around and argue that if you don't meet or have significant interactions in some way if meeting is impossible, you are closer to swinging than...
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    Dumping The Label

    If you were interested in dating me and I had to read your whole website before we could get past general chitchat, it'd be a nope from that point on. I am attracted to intelligent people but you come off as overbearing and pedantic in addition to intelligent, which are turn off. A few concrete...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    All of that makes a lot of sense. I really just found the latest one that you talked in depth about thinking about him and interacting with him, because I wanted to have context but didn't necessarily have the energy to find the perfect quote. I'm glad that you're using the experience to work on...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    I've been trying to place my finger on what exactly about your descriptions of Jersey Guy really bother me, Spork. I totally understand that you want to think the best about people and that you can understand how his background has formed who he is, but we're not just talking about him violating...
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    How much do you expect a partner to tell you when they begin a new relationship?

    I agree that looking at feelings behind stated worries is a good idea. As a personal example, when we first were opening up our marriage, it was because my husband had fallen in love with a friend of ours. Definitely not the first time it had happened but it was the first time that it had...
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