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The "ha" meant "I'm a joke." You're right. She just wanted the money. I'm just giving all this a try for the first time in over 18 years. My wife has her man; I've got nothing, not even a hopeful. But it's OK. Maybe someone will like me some time, maybe they won't.

That was after the tip portion. But I am a big tipper. (I've worked that kind of job in the past, I know.) Anyway, we were there early because of a private party, so she sat with us for about 45 minutes before the club actually opened. I wasn't just making a random hit. We had some history! Ha

Yeah, probably. But I did ask her if she'd be interested in dating. She said she would. Who knows?

I'm not sure of your sexual situation with your wife but I have been there. I'm kinda new to all this too and I'm sure that what monovchpvabcd :^) may be referring to is a post I made very similar to yours on Friday. It took my wife and I 15 years before she ever even stared to like sex with...

... that brings up another thought I had You hear: "What's a gal like me gonna get from dating a married guy like you?" I'm just starting up with all this, but I'm already getting that vibe. It seems like this is a much easier/more convenient lifestyle for the females. Guys don't seem to care...

Oh, and to both of you, thanks. All of this is really making me not feel so awkward about all of this.

more... painting It's very cool that both of you like to paint. I used to paint a lot, but my actual career is more geared toward the commercial side of things, and sometimes I find I lose focus. I just started back up with actual fine art painting very recently. Actually, all this with my wife...

Sorry, Manno This seems to have gotten off on a little tangent. But to Redpepper: thanks for the reply. All of the stuff I do is completely without any secrets, including Ashley Madison. My wife actually found this thread this morning and sent it to me. She knew it was similar to my situation...

Redpepper ... you wouldn't even have to be a fly. Maybe the two of us would hit it off! Everyone's invited.

small clarification Well, the stumble-by-accident part was bad, but now that I look at it, for the best. Here's the deal. My wife's past included a lot of sexual repression that led to awkward relationships with previous men. This all transferred into our relationship, but I saw more in her...

I think we must be related. I'm in such a similar situation that I feel like I could have written your post. Here was my initial (and only) post I made to this site. Mine was much shorter, but had I continued you could have copied and pasted from me...

thanks I appreciate both of your quick replies. Love the trailer, we've got an old Argosy, but that's another forum. I'm curious what's making Fedelia's transition so tough?

My wife and I have been together for 18 years (15 married). We have had our ups and downs but through a number of events we are finally the happiest we have ever been. She met someone last year and started having a platonic yet secretive affair of sorts. After I discovered what was happening...