Fragments to the Contrary

hyperskeptic

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In this thread, I will collect fragments of things I've read that have given me pause, made me question both the wisdom and the viability of the practice of polyamory.

I don't agree with everything in each of these fragments, but they raise for me important questions about what many on this forum and in the wider literature of non-monogamy claim as the meaning and the justification for their own choices.

First up, are some passages from a short essay by Wendell Berry, who has been an influence on my thought about place and community for nearly as long as I've been thinking.

In "Rugged Individualism," Berry describes and takes to task two "tragic" variants of that most American of ideologies: "the presumptive 'right' of individuals to do as they please, as if there were no God, no legitimate government, no community, no neighbors, and no posterity."

(I differ with him on the question of whether there's a God, but I tend to agree that, in understanding human life, community has some primacy.)

He first dispatches with the rugged individualism of the right, that which focuses on the "right" to do whatever you want with your property, which leads to untold disruptions of landscapes and communities.

He then turns to the tragic individualism of the left:

"The rugged individualism of the left believes that an individual's body is a property belonging to that individual absolutely: The owners of bodies may, by right, use them as they please, as if there were no God, no legitimate government, no community, no neighbors, and no posterity. This supposed right is manifested in the democratization of 'sexual liberation'; in the popular assumption that marriage has been 'privatized' and so made subordinate to the wishes of individuals; in the proposition that the individual is 'autonomous'; in the legitimation of abortion as birth control - in the denial, that is to say, that the community, the family, one's spouse, or even one's own soul might exercises a legitimate proprietary interest in the use one makes of one's body. And this too is tragic, for it sets us 'free' from responsibility and thus from the possibility of meaning. It makes unintelligible the self-sacrifice that sent Thoreau to jail."

After a discussion of the environmental consequences of each variant of tragic individualism, Berry concludes:

"'Every man for himself' is a doctrine for a feeding frenzy or for a panic in a burning nightclub, appropriate for sharks or hogs or perhaps a cascade of lemmings. A society wishing to endure must speak the language of care-taking, faith-keeping, kindness, neighborliness, and peace. That language is another precious resource that cannot be 'privatized'."

I see two implications for polyamory and those who claim or aim to practice it.

First, it suggests that interest in polyamory is a product of a time in which the American middle class is especially isolated and rootless, living apart from one another in suburban houses and urban apartments, apparently accountable to no one, supported by no one. Anyone who wants to do any thing that appeals to their own dear self can find like-minded others through anonymous or semi-anonymous online forums and dating sites.

To the extent such an isolated condition can be taken as a sign of sickness in our culture, polyamory can look like a symptom rather than a healthy development.

Second, and on the other hand, polyamory could be cast as an effort to address the very real shortcomings of the existing institution of monogamous marriage, perhaps opening up the possibility of (further) revision to social institutions.

The problem with that is that solitary individuals are not the arbiters of institutions. By their nature, institutions are social, and revising and restructuring them is a task for communities . . . often through a long and difficult struggle.

Witness the ongoing struggle over same-sex marriage.

If individuals cast their "free" private choices in relationships - "opening" marriages, and so on - too far ahead of broader community-driven changes in institutions, well, they're likely to find themselves dashed against the hard edges of those institutions . . . unless they can somehow be furtive enough to get around them.

This second point helps me to make sense of my own current plight. Even if I were still convinced that polyamory is just a peachy idea - and I am far from convinced - nearly everyone else sees me as a middle-aged married man with children.

Part of how institutions shape us is by governing the development of our perceptions and our values, and monogamous marriage is no different: with very few exceptions, anyone who discovered that I am a middle-aged married man with children who is interested in and open to intimate relationships with others automatically sees me as off-limits, unappealing, and maybe even creepy.

So, this is me, dashed up against the hard edges of established monogamy.

Thus the institution re-enforces itself, which is how institutions are supposed to work, institutions that can, at their best, establish a basis for living meaningful lives in the world.

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Work cited: Wendell Berry, "Rugged Individualism" in The Way of Ignorance and Other Essays (Shoemaker and Hoard, 2005), pp. 9-11.
 
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Aristotle on the Finitude of Love

A big chunk of Aristotle's big book on ethics - Nicomachean Ethics - is devoted to friendship (philia), which he defines as mutual good will: we should wish for the good of our friends for their own sake.

He distinguishes three varieties of friendship: those based on usefulness (friends gain something useful from one another), those based on pleasure (friends take pleasure in being together, which includes what he terms "erotic friendship"), and those based on virtue.

The last of the three is the truest and most lasting kind of friendship, based on mutual recognition of and support for the goodness of character among friends. "Complete friendship is that of good people, those who are alike in their virtue: they each alike wish good things in each other in so far as they are good, and they are good in themselves. Those who wish good things to a friend for his own sake are friends most of all . . ." (Book VIII, chapter 3)

He makes a passing remark relevant to people in LDRs: "distance does not dissolve friendship without qualification, but it does dissolve its activity. But if the absences is a long one, it seems to make people forget their friendship. Hence the proverb: 'Many friendships has lack of conversation dissolved.'" (VIII.5)

This brings me to the point of this post, in response to the ideology of "infinite love," at least if love is cast in terms of committed intimate relationships rather than just f**king a lot:

"One cannot be a friend - in the sense of complete friendship - to many people, just as one cannot be in love with many people at the same time (love is like an excess, and such a thing arises naturally toward one individual). And it is not easy for the same person at the same time to please many people a great deal, or, presumably, to be good in relations with them. He must have experience of them as well, and hence become familiar with them, which is very difficult. But when friendship is for utility or pleasure, it is possible to please many people, since many people can be pleased like this, and the services do not take long." (VIII.6)​
 
"One cannot be a friend - in the sense of complete friendship - to many people, just as one cannot be in love with many people at the same time (love is like an excess, and such a thing arises naturally toward one individual). And it is not easy for the same person at the same time to please many people a great deal, or, presumably, to be good in relations with them. He must have experience of them as well, and hence become familiar with them, which is very difficult. But when friendship is for utility or pleasure, it is possible to please many people, since many people can be pleased like this, and the services do not take long." (VIII.6)​

Profound and remarkable that something written so long ago speaks so clearly. This is exactly what I found. XBF could not be a true friend/ true partner to his wife and to me both. She was threatened by realizing he was in love with me. She was angry that I wasn't going to come home and be her play toy or at least sleep naked in bed with him where she could come in and get a good look, like happened with his other girlfriends, and angry I think to realize she wasn't going to get threesomes with me like I suspect she often did with them (speaking of creepy....)

She started playing the Silent Veto Game. I called him on it. He had a choice of being the Good Husband or the Good Boyfriend, because of her behaviors. He chose to be the Good Husband--protect and defend, cover up for her, deny it was happening.

And in a sense, I don't even 'blame' her. Of course a woman is threatened to see her husband fall in love with someone else, unless she's 100% sure that SHE will always come out on top and is 100% 'safe' in that respect.

Hence, I believe, why we see virtually no successful examples of a man with a long term wife and long term girlfriend, except perhaps in the rare case where the GF knows she better make it clear to the wife that she is happy to remain the underling and always come in second if need be.


"The rugged individualism of the left believes that an individual's body is a property belonging to that individual absolutely: The owners of bodies may, by right, use them as they please, as if there were no God, no legitimate government, no community, no neighbors, and no posterity....- in the denial, ...that the community, the family, one's spouse, or even one's own soul might exercises a legitimate proprietary interest in the use one makes of one's body.

Yes, this is exactly what we are living in denial of these days. Our actions DO affect others. Our PRIVATE ACTIONS...DO...impact others.

i have typically been very circumspect, lest the wife or new GF show up here and recognize me/him in the details. But I'll say, I've recently contacted XBF because his 'private' choices have now hurt quite a few people. It is reaching a point where he can finally reach out to them and repair the damage or lose the opportunity forever. His and his wife's 'private' choices have hurt me. They've impacted my kids. They've impacted the arts group we were both part of.

We rail against riding a motorcycle without a helmet because that 'personal choice' may impact the cost of health care for everyone. But we ignore the very real impact our sexual and relationship choices also have on everyone around us.
 
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