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  1. Ostrich

    Change in all the areas of my life...

    Pink Pig Which is why pre-nups exist 😅
  2. Ostrich

    Change in all the areas of my life...

    Evie!! Every word you typed above is spot on to me! To put my additional two cents in: I have always thought divorce was an option for me. If, for whatever reason, this marriage does not work out, I would rather be divorced than estranged/separated. I think a marriage is highly unethical if...
  3. Ostrich

    Change in all the areas of my life...

    icesong, no you are not misremembering. Here's how I process those situations. With threesomes, I am still with my husband during sex. We are both enjoying our third as well as each other. It's still special to me because we are being very intimate with each other, as well as another. I...
  4. Ostrich

    Change in all the areas of my life...

    Vicki, I'm taking a completely different view of marriage. First, I am very happy for you about your relationship (I am assuming you are married, based on your post above). I'll argue that I can have all the things you listed without being married. The only difference for me being a gay man...
  5. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    No, I cannot be happy without sexual exclusivity, or at the very least, we are both involved in sexual activity with others at the same time (threesome or moresome). I've told DAG that and he is none too happy with me asking him to curtail extramarital sex. I don't care that he is not happy...
  6. Ostrich

    Change in all the areas of my life...

    icesong, It gives me a sense of 'place' and a sense of knowing I have some type of 'special' relationship. I almost said 'security', but realized I am working on my insecurities, so at some point, 'security' would be addressed in the future. Of course, it depends on ones definition of...
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    Change in all the areas of my life...

    icesong, thank you for posting this up. This going to be random, so fasten your seat belt. I have thought about this and here's what I've come up with for me. I trust DAG and I_know_DAG will always be there for me. That being said, I_know_Geyser will be there for me as well. Same way with...
  8. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    So here's a question. Is a marriage still 'special' if one partner is having sex with someone outside of that marriage? Let me explain. To me, marriage means some level of exclusivity, especially from the sex aspect. If one partner is having sex outside of the marriage, the 'special' aspect...
  9. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    I DID IT! I gave DAG my two new boundaries regarding any future romantic/sexual relationships and he didn't flinch. Too much. Here they are: 1) I will accept phone numbers from the metas whom he will spend a significant amount of time, out of safety's sake. If an emergency situation happens...
  10. Ostrich

    Seeking Insight on Messy Breakup

    Thank you, and bookmarked!
  11. Ostrich

    Seeking Insight on Messy Breakup

    Can I steal...uh, borrow your definitions of lover, friend and BF/GF? And a very, very strong seconding of the 'floating into stuff' or 'running like a freight train'. Never, ever again!
  12. Ostrich

    Seeking Insight on Messy Breakup

    This really resonates with me. While I was an outsider to DAG, Bruiser and Fisticuff's relationships, I knew DAG was more partial to Bruiser than Fisticuffs, even though DAG met Fisticuffs first and met Bruiser through Fisticuffs (Bruiser and Fisticuffs are partners). Again, I don't know the...
  13. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    Even though I feel mentally capable of typing all this out, this isn't easy for me. A couple of weeks ago, DAG told me that even before our marriage, he wouldn't have been able to provide details on 'I do what I want'. In other words, he had no idea that 'I do what I want' would include having...
  14. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    The War of the Phone Numbers. Today, this war makes sense. If I were DAG, I'd want my husband/partner to do the same. In the beginning of our poly exploration, soon after DAG met Fisticuffs and Bruiser, it became apparent that the three of them would be part of each others lives for the...
  15. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    This is due for an update. DAG and I had a serious and difficult (for me) conversation yesterday and today. We talked about his want for intimate relationships, including having sex with other men outside of our marriage. I reiterated my desire for him to not have sex with others, unless it...
  16. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    An update: DAG has tested my limits with his relationship with Polo. Twice, DAG has blocked Polo on his phone and social media, due to Polo's continued possessive and passive/aggressive behavior towards DAG. And twice, DAG has done an about face on ending his relationship with Polo. I was...
  17. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    The reader may wonder why I am posting this. In this current out-of-whack world, I need to mark something in my life, aside from my birthday and wedding anniversary. The first just gets me older and the second is beginning to make me groan in disappointment. So here is my new anniversary...
  18. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    There is a question I have for DAG, but I on the fence about asking it, as I am afraid of one of the possible answers. During one of our marriage counseling sessions, he admitted he had thought about pursuing an 'I do what I want' way of life, but was afraid of telling anyone (including me) due...
  19. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    icesong Good point. Everything after 'but' is bullshit. Agreed A) is a tough one. Fun times!
  20. Ostrich

    Irony Is Dead

    I think in that scenario, it would depend on the relationship I had with person A. I've also learned through experience if I speak with person B about A, then I include a disclaimer about 'please don't let what I say influence your thoughts about this person' whether I know they know them, or...
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