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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    She is agreeable to me having this relationship in the future. What she wants now is for me to completely cut all contact. Don't see the GF, don't talk to her, don't message her, don't associate with mutual friends, don't be in a place that she is likely to be. With all due respect, I think...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    Not inconvenient at all. Thank you for your continued interest. Yes. we have 3 children at home. No my wife is not financially self sufficient. My ideal relationship with my wife would yes, be as a partner, a lover, a spouse. But I would accept anything she is willing to give. It's not so...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    I.... wow. Okay so you clearly feel I'm continuing to handle this very badly. I don't know what I could've done better or differently :/ I guess your advice (paraphrasing) is to ditch the girlfriend, suck it up, and work on my relationship with my wife regardless?
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    I guess......... What a lot of it comes down to is that I would like to fix my marriage, I would like to make things work, and have a relationship with both women. I'm NOT willing to terminate my new relationship in order to do that, I am in fact regretting putting it on hold. I.... began this...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    I'm not sure if I was.... unclear, or we fundamentally disagree, but when I say "not permitted to" I mean that (following a failed attempt allowing her to constrain) neither partner was permitted to constrain the relationship that they were not involved in. So "I want more of your time" is...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    Tinwen: GF is...... substantially more experienced than I am. And yes, I feel I probably did that. It was after previous attempts failed. I decided, after a confrontation, that I was unwilling to accept the limitations my wife required. "kinder to let her go". This is....... complex. It was...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    No. One of the issues in my marriage was my complete inability to communicate
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    Thanks Tinwen, That.........makes a lot of sense. I particularly liked this: It seems the situation is unstable as it is, and you have to make some kind of decision. A B C D However I....... don't understand the difference between A (well, half of it) and C (unless you were think A...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    Thanks for the reply Shaya, Not...... promising, or hopeful, but..... Thank you. The examples certainly don't provide much in the way of hope :/ My wife is very definitely heterosexual, and currently the 2 women are......... significantly irritated with each other. My marriage, my wife are...
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    Miserable, Doing it wrong. No idea what to do next

    Okay, deep breath. I've tried typing this three times now, and I'm not getting anywhere. There is too much. I will attempt to sum up. I've been married for 16 years, monogamously. Over the last 10 or so years I've become more interested in Poly as a concept. Recently I've met someone, and...
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