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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    She is willing to let this go, or so she says...because each time she says she's done with the drama, she goes right back when the metamour begs her to go back. She also recognizes this isn't a healthy relationship but cannot manage to pull herself away from it it seems. My wife also says that...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    You hit it on the nose. I would need to be in Taiwan with my wife together to work on not just the marriage, but also my business and her being with her mom. My wife is definitely willing to try Well the existing people ARE the problem. My wife has an unstable relationship with someone who...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Tinwen you got it right here. My wife met this gf before we even had any agreements on having an open relationship so essentially it's an affair. She was very clear with this woman that she was married but was not clear about this to me until they had already been talking and dating for several...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Hey Kevin, Actually that question did come up. Currently I am in Hawaii and part of what's happened is over 20 years of marriage the only way I could manage to make it work was by following my wife back to Taiwan. Something that came out in therapy was if I do go back to Taiwan, there's the...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Another big part of this is I'm not ready to move on. Tons of financial pressure crept up and I really need her by my side, in person. Looks like we need to focus on being good primaries, at least for now. Otherwise so much of what we've built up over the years will fall apart in a heartbeat...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Yes thanks for your suggestion. It seems facing reality rather than hitting your head against the wall and making things worse is the way to go.
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Hey GalaGirl, Thanks for your thoughtful response. I'll fill in a bit here: This gets into a struggle that's gone on through most of our relationship. My wife is from Taiwan and always has trouble adjusting to living in the USA. We've lived in several different cities and each time it's the...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    My metamour wants that because she wants a pure, true love with another lesbian woman. She feels I am just interfering. It essentially started as an affair because my wife was exploring her sexuality and wanted someone to accompany her when she visited home. Their relationship has been on again...
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    Depression starting from when I started dating

    Hello All, Well so after being married for 20 years, I figured I'd give a try at an open marriage. My wife and I have no kids together, she is bi and even made the claim that she had no interest in dating other men so possibly almost lesbian. I was extremely supportive of her from the very...
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    How to deal with being shamed by society's labels

    Yes apparently the bible is loaded with examples of men having multiple wives (but not the other way around) and even men fighting wars and taking ladies as prizes...
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    How to deal with being shamed by society's labels

    I think the reason why people discriminate against poly people goes straight back to the bible based view that polyamory is simply a way to justify adultery. Of course in the poly world we accept it when all of the parties know and consent to what is going on. But for someone with this bible...
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    How to deal with being shamed by society's labels

    Very interesting - thanks all for your thoughts and perspectives. Generally I've been a very open person but now am starting to realize like many of you that polyamory just is not accepted in society as a whole so we need to be careful about who we open up to. I'm learning to pick up on cues...
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    How to deal with being shamed by society's labels

    Hey All, It seems one of the greatest challenges to polyamory is not managing the relationship internally, but dealing with all of the labels which establishment society puts on what we do: For example, having sex with someone other than your partner is labeled "cheating", "affair"...
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    New to polyamory - Open Marriage

    Hello Shaya, Kevin: Thanks so much for the introductions and sharing info. This journey is quite an adventure but it seems to be the best option for both of us. Here is a gem of a video that I'd like to share with all of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k313_K6VKK4&t=1791s The speaker...
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    Understanding a break-up

    I have something similar but different going on. With my wife, she is discovering her true sexual identity. So pretty much our relationship has become a more platonic relationship. We live separately to allow each other the freedom but still make a point of keeping in contact online when we are...
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    New to polyamory - Open Marriage

    Hello All, It's taking me a lot of courage to finally open up here but finally I think I can do this. So here it goes: My wife and I have been married for 20 years. No children because of various fertility issues. They're resolved on my end but she's at the age where she doesn't want to have...
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