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    Artificial Intelligence Discussion

    This is why all the interest (if not purely philosophical) in "can the chatbots consent to polyamory?" is strange—like, I may be presumptuous, but isn't part of the attraction here that the chatbot gives and never asks for anything in return? If you want a relationship based in mutuality...
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    The butterfly diaries

    It works pretty well written down, too, because I have to "say" the words in my head, and... oh. 😂
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    Thoughts on this journey

    (Cool talk, folx; now back to my blog. Happy to discuss AI/ethics/nonsense in other threads!) Good therapy call today, about my drive for autonomy and how that shows up in and shapes my relationships (and why the ideal of "two people creating something called a Relationship that's bigger than...
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    The butterfly diaries

    Took me a second. 😆
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    Artificial Intelligence Discussion

    Yeah, the position the OP was trying to defend is silly but the ideas brought up by the conversation are fascinating. I had a great conversation with a friend of mine last night based on this topic, the crux of which: at what point, when an "entity" presents itself as convincingly humanlike, do...
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    Thoughts on this journey

    Well, I must admit I'm a little upset that the thread about AI — as silly as it was on its face — was deleted. I put a lot of effort into my posts in that thread. More effort than the OP deserved? Maybe. But the actual topic brought up a lot of interesting philosophical questions, and I enjoyed...
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    Artificial Intelligence Discussion

    Well, I must admit I'm a little upset that the thread about AI — as silly as it was on its face — was deleted. I put a lot of effort into my posts in that thread. More effort than the OP deserved? Maybe. But the actual topic brought up a lot of interesting philosophical questions, and I enjoyed...
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    Thoughts on this journey

    Still pretty much feeling like this. 😂 Some interesting conversations going on today, though... So aside from this site, the other places I've been poring over compulsively are the /r/polyamory and the /r/relationship_advice subreddit. I tell ya, as much as people read the former and remark...
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    Poly or cuckold?

    Does she want you to? Do you want to?
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    Poly or cuckold?

    I'd say the clearest difference between polyamory and cuckolding, given consent on all sides, is intention. In polyamory, you all have relationships with other people for the sake of those relationships. So the fact that your wife has relationships with others doesn't really have anything to do...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    This is an interesting example, because it returns us to what's so compelling about AI: we tend to anthropomorphize—attribute human characteristics to things that aren't human. What you're describing isn't "consent." Your cat is not aware that it is being given a sample roommate. What it knows...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    Okay, I have to ask: how is it possible to obtain your cat's consent for a thing that might happen in the future? I don't think it is, which is why I don't find it ethically necessary. That is quite apart from having to deal with the consequences of bringing two more cats into my home, and I...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    I don't know what this acronym is— state of the art? Empathy is "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another." In order to do that, we need a degree of projection. Like, in order to understand your feelings, I need to put myself in your place and imagine feeling the way you...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    Okay, I appreciate the elaboration! Then here's more of my opinion: As far as I'm aware, right now AI chatbots are computer programs that take an input (e.g. "How are you today, chatbot?") and use a large language model to produce an output that is sensible to the user (e.g. "Not bad! The...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    You're welcome, but I am still confused about what you hope to gain from this conversation. If you've abandoned intimate relationships with people in favour of relationships with AI chatbots, then it's obviously very high stakes for you that those relationships are real; so I don't really...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    But is uninstalling an app from your phone unethical? Because that's the actually analogous situation.
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    I have an opinion, but before I share it I would really like to know what you hope to get out of this discussion.
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    My old flames make my heart swoon

    This jumped out at me, too, OP. Is "paying him back" something Zero wants/demands, something you want, or something you think you owe? Because it sounds like another great way to never quite be ready to end the relationship, just like how he's never quite ready to be okay with opening it.
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    My old flames make my heart swoon

    I'm just a stranger on the internet and I don't know you at all, let alone Zero, but: I think that is a reasonable conclusion. The problem is, he can "not be ready to 'let' you date" forever and ever and ever, because "receiving attention" and "feeling wanted" are not really quantifiable. So...
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    Mono falling for poly guy

    🤨 Not to make light of OP's feelings, but... what? Chatted online for 2 weeks + one date that ended in sex = too emotionally invested to "back out"? I think if "potential for future relationship of a certain type" is so important to a person they need to know it before sex (and fair enough)...
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