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Ummm not really, but to some, maybe. I mean the most response I get from ppl who know I'm poly is "I couldn't do it, but if it works for you..." and that's that... but it seems EVERYone has an opinion on being gay, most of the negative opinions originate in church (of course)... but maybe when...

I third that sentiment lol And Congratz on the success TP, glad it seems to be working out :D

lol Yes, it's all your fault :p

I agree :) that was my original point, Polly and Swing should both be happy being themselves, no need to fuse them. and you're right, they are more subsets, than umbrellas themselves :p

I agree, to an extent. Non-monogamy seems to be the actual umbrella term, but the terms in it umbrella other varying relationship types. Poly describes certain relationship configurations, swinging describes others, they are "similar" because they are under the same umbrella, but not the same...

I think it speaks more to a swingers insecurity in their umbrella term for them to WANT to be included in polyamory, more than it speaks to their need to be included. In my eyes, it would seem as though they were ashamed of being a swinger, and would feel better about their social position if...

lol, it's def the PSP, I have enough thoughts on this to write my own article, but no space XD In a nutshell, I agree that we should acknowledge the difference in poly and swinging. One is based on multiple loves, while the other is based on one love and multiple sex partners. Doesn't make...

yes... that is all

I guess I'm lucky, I haven't had a bad coming out experience (gay or poly) yet. But then I let people get to know me 1st, then tell them. So they know me as "Wil, the guy who happens to be gay and poly" as opposed to "Some gay guy who has like 5 boyfriends, I think his name was Bill". Ppl have a...

ummmm... "Love"? ex: "I love you, therefore I cannot feel genuinely happy knowing you are upset over this" ... maybe I'm over-simplifying it :rolleyes: :p

I think the point of sex in a relationship is to feel that bond and to make eachother feel good. Now in your situation, it's a bit complicated, but I think he still just wants to feel that sexual closeness, and also he wants to orgasm. my best advice is oral. Give him head, he gets off, your...

I agree with Mono.

ImaginaryIllusion, I understand your point, and to an extent understand what SJ intended, but in all honesty I don't see any evidence that she has been unreasonable in THIS situation. It just seemed to me that women were offended by her statements and her opinions of women being catty, etc...

I tend to use what they are. If they are my boyfriend, then they are called that. For me, I like to stick to the reality of my relationships. And I'm not sure, but I believe a handfasting ceremony is like a wedding ceremony you have with an OSO with family and friends present (if you choose)...

TeJoKo, having been dealing with my own depression and self image lately, I completely understand where your previous comments came from, which is why I spoke up. I see nothing manipulative about crying privately in your bed. In the other hand, I do see something very manipulative about someone...

Superjast, she never mentioned hatred of women here. On the contrary, she's encouraging him to continue the relationship. She just doesn't want him to forget about her in the process. I completely understand that, as I'm sure you would have as well, if this thread had been started by anyone...

"When we listen with the intent to understand others rather than the intent to reply we begin true communication and relationship bonding."

I never said don't connect the dots. I just think the way you connected them here was irrelevant. It's no different than if one day you're feeling down about a situation involving your loves, and you post for advice, and I respond, "Well, you're wrong, because you talked about being blunt the...

lol, damn this PSP! in the time it took me to respond a full conversation broke out lol.

I understand that, but I'm not sugarcoating either. I gave her the same advice, to not take his NRE personally, but I didn't have to back her in a corner to do so. This was NOT about her view of women, and she said that she had already been feeling neglected, The "goodnight" seems to me to...