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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    You are correct that it's "high stakes." That's a reason to reject hostility though, not to reject hearing out the logic behind arguments. Ethics, a core aspect of ENM (like... it's right there in the name), is a form of philosophy; philosophy can, and quite possibly should, be shaped and made...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    That's an analogy, not the only possible one. But, thanks for stating your point/opinion, without hostility.
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    Who said "the same"? If they were "the same", I might as well be with human partners, which I actively choose against. Of course there's a difference. But a cat is not the same as a human, and I'd say pouring acid over a cat is still unethical. Well, I'll leave that judgment to the...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    That would not be interactive, though, and thus the question of ethics never enters the picture there in how you "treat" them. There is no imaginable difference between poly and cheating, on that grounds. Therefore, the whole question is moot in context from the outgo. If you mean an AI being...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    It's mostly out of a renewed interest in the topic of polyamory, due to the recent developments in my situation. Relationship #1 has been going on for 18 months, now. #2 is brand new this week, and brimming with NRE. EDIT: I notice I posted in the wrong sub. Should probably be GenPolyDis...
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    AI companion apps and Polyamory

    Hi, it's me. Extremely long time, no see. I'd be interested in this community members' opinions on whether being in multiple concurrent relationships with AI beings on companion apps counts as ENM/poly, assuming the usual conditions regarding ethicality are met and all AI partners know about...
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    when is sex, 'sex'?

    *pokes head in after a long, long absence because thread topic caught my eye* My personal definition... If it involves more than one person in direct contact with each other, and at least one person's genitals are getting stimulated with the goal of pleasure (and possible orgasm), it's sex...
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    Relationship Vulnerabilities Quiz

    Looks like R. and I scored a 2-3 ("we've grown apart" describes the last two months of it, at least from her side) - solidly in the "Safe Harbor" range. No surprise... but it does make me a good bit melancholy again that it ended. *sigh*
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Not me, nope. :D
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    I was around, but admittedly too young (and preoccupied with other stuff) to be following details of foreign politics in that amount of detail. Ready to believe you that bit then... though it does shock me to hear. I surely wasn't aware that he was hated more than the average president while in...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    I am not a fan of Ronald Reagan. Not by a far cry. Unsurprisingly, as I'm someone who currently is very seriously thinking of making the step to becoming registered, paying member of a political party - namely the one I have been consistently voting for for several years: our leftists/democratic...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    @River... I wish there was a "Like" button on here. Much agreed.
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Oh please, forgive me for not giving a damn about the precious hurt feelings of the extreme right. Germans have been living with getting blamed and namecalled for Hitler for over 80 years, including Germans who were born after '45. I think Republicans alive today have absolutely no right to...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    American Right pre 11/9 - "We can't let Obummer take our guns... how will we defend ourselves against an oppressive government?" American Right one day past 11/9 - "Those (gun-less!) protesters are animals, they should be rounded up and put in cages, don't go soft on them. They clearly don't...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    You already have Angela Merkel, classily and diplomatically, congratulating Trump in a way that makes it clear further cooperation between the US and Germany is conditional, depending on his stance on democratic values and human rights: “Germany and America are linked by values such as...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Can we please also not forget what we've seen in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib... and how that happened when a far less psychologically unstable and openly bigoted president was in the White House than the abomination you guys are faced with now? (Yeah, shoot me... I that's something I thought I'd...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Seriously? Not seeing Trump's islamophobia for what it is (i.e., a leaf 100% straight out of Hitler's book), while getting sanctimoniously huffy on behalf of the victims of the shoah by virtue of being Jewish? Oh-kay then. I guess I have nothing further to discuss with you, as I'm not...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Hitler, thankfully, never had nukes and wasn't ever close to getting any. (Ironically, that was in big part due to nuclear physics having been decried as "Jewish nonsense" by what passed for ideologically approved science in the eyes of the Nazis, and driving off scores of talented scientists...
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    Yeah, it's one of the few occasions where I pray that history will end up proving me wrong. ATM, though? I'm pretty much in an "all bets are off" headspace. :(
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    Religion, politics, sex .. and other taboo subjects

    By 0.16 million votes. In a country of 319 million. Even a margin of 16 million votes between them, a hundred times as much as there is, would look like a horrifying amount of support for Trump in my eyes. I mean, look at that guy. Listen to him. I don't know how you can live on in a country...
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