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I just read through the vocabulary document. I guess what we originally agreed to was 1a - The Primary Secondary Model of Swingers with no emotional involvement or committment (beyond of course the already existing friendship). But that's not where we are, now that Sarah and John have fallen...

In past conversations with John, he has indicated that if their romantic relationship ended (which has nothing to do with their feelings, just how they are allowed to interact), it would be so painful for him that he might not be able to be a part of Sarah's life in any way. Now, that might...

Oh my god, GalaGirl, you are such an angel! I really appreciate you taking the time to look in depth on our situation. I guess I thought - what are the things I can live with. What are the concessions I can make, and be okay with, so that John and Sarah at least have something. But there...

Okay, so I just checked out this pdf entitled "Making Peace with Jealousy in a Polyamorous Relationship," and I don't think it really applies for us. I'm not saying that it's full of bad advice, but the premise is kind of off. I'm hoping you have an alternate resource that doesn't...

Wow, GalaGirl, this is really great information! Thank you. :-) Your tally is mostly right, but here are the tweaks: So unfortunately I don't think talking in quad is an option. :-/ I'm not sure exactly what that means - leave the baby polyship/marriages. If I say no to a John having a...

Thank you GalaGirl for your reply! I'll try to answer you questions, though I imagine some are answered with the second half of the story I was able to post above. Well, when we started it was clear that we were two couples only engaging in physical things together. We definitely were not...

I'm afraid that when I posted the thread there was a 1000 character maximum limit. I tried to then post the rest as a comment, but the moderators had to approve the thread first before it was viewable. Sorry about that. Here's the rest of the story...

Hello all, I could really use advice. I'm very sad and I feel very alone, and since I'm new to this and I don't want to come out of the closet I don't really know who to turn to. Here's the backstory. The names are all changed of course. I apologize that it's so long, but so much has...