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Keep us posted on how your conversation and trip go! would love to hear about the resort you are going to. We talked about the 4 of us going and observing others, rather than participating, and how the 4 of us would be able to be together without hiding etc but it has never materialized...

i agree with Gary.... although we dabbled in swinging that ended with the commitment to J & B. the evolution just sort of happened and we talked a lot about it, it sort of fell on the husband of the other 2 and myself to be the communicators. we talk everyday, and when things have been rough...

Ugh- i typed a whole long response and something happened and its gone! jeez. anyway, it makes sense what you said, what wound up happening with us is that we set a date and time to talk about how each of us felt and what we were looking for from the realtionship. my husband and I discussed...

I would be happy to share as well. I agree with Gary that the 4 us have become more unbreakable than 2, not that it hasnt been diffucult at times but always worth it in the end, just ask away and I will share our take on things!

my husband and i dabbled in the swinger world on a very limited basis and decided that wasnt really what we were looking for so one night after a little too much wine my husband asked his best friend if they would ever consider a sexual relationship with us, he told me he did this and i could...

I bet we do have lots in common- did you and your wife approach the other couple? or the other way around? I am curious how your relationship evolved! I have never had the opportunity to talk about things with anyone!

Hi Gary, I am new on here too and have been lurking for a while but this is my first post. Your situation sounds much like mine, married 16 years in a long term committed relationship with another married couple for 7 years, who were good friends also. I havent found too many stories on this...