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Love What’s always interesting to me is that it would appear that of all the things Jesus told us to truly fear it was sex. Jesus was never asked a direct question about sex outside of marriage. He was asked a direct question about divorce. It was a trick question to see if Jesus would...

Love Matthew 24:12 New International Version (NIV) 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. Interesting that the evangelical movement is appalled by homosexuality, but supports the most wicked, illegal use of military force in history by a government they deem...

Love I agree that being open about our interest and interactions with other people is the best defense against being unfaithful and betraying our spouse's trust. Jesus criticized overeaters, condemned the love of money, and advised us not to become caught up in the worries and cares of this...

Jesus is God I absolutely believe that Jesus is God. "If you are my friends, you will do what I command." "This is my command, that you love one another." The 2 greatest commandments: Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind. And the second is like it: love your neighbor as...

5 Husbands and a lover What I find interesting is that, in spite of the fact that this woman was, by anyone's standards, polyamorous, Jesus did not take this opportunity to lower the boom on someone who, by today's neo-Paulistic, pseudo-Christian standards, would be condemned. Instead, He told...

Learned the hard way I've learned that there are certain conversations that have to be monitored by an appropriate third party. Conversations that must never take place one on one. For the protection of both parties. Criminal behavior or potential criminal behavior should only be discussed...

Love I agree that for some reason people who call themselves Christians try to become know it all’s. Quoting their bible as if they wrote it themselves. I don’t think this problem is confined to any one group, religious or otherwise. The premise in Christianity is that Jesus is God. He said...

Sigh Jesus is God. His commands are straight forward. His priorities are love, mercy and forgiveness. No one is drawn to Him unless the Father draws them to Him. I can love, have mercy and forgive someone who doesn’t believe Jesus is God. What I can’t do is accept anyone else’s opinion on the...

“You study the Scriptures carefully. You study them because you think they will give you eternal life. The Scriptures you study give witness about me. But you refuse to come to me and receive life.” As usual any attempt to create a dialogue about the subject of polyamory amongst people who...

Theraputic I had less than a perfect childhood. Severe abuse. It wasn’t until I was 48 that I really opened up to a therapist about how f’d up I was. To my surprise the prescription was to join a naturist club to overcome my shame of being naked. It was perfect. I learned that there is a thin...

Empathy and Compassion I’m very impressed with the way the people on the forum in general and on this thread are showing love and consideration to each other and here to BW. It helps me to know I’m in a safe place. I’m touched deeply by BW’s dilemma but haven’t the foggiest idea how to...

Thank you. There are many, many believers who are suffering needlessly because they equate Christ's condemnation of rape with being sensual. We end up desensitized to real abuse, and hating ourselves for our oftentimes feeble attempts at love, sort of the opposite of His command to love our...

Home Girl My concept of divinity comes from Jesus. But, equally important I want to love you, but not more than I love myself.

The business of religion Jesus didn’t say a lot about sex in general, and nothing at all about his own sexuality. Speculation about His relationship with the women in His life, and about John’s comments that he was the disciple whom Jesus loved is just that, pure speculation. I choose not to...

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an illegal act Immoral in the civil sense is an illegal act. Could you sue someone for being non monogamous? In a marriage where one partner cheats it is grounds for a civil divorce action that could affect the courts judgment regarding child custody and distribution of assets. If it could...

Shame Open conversation about touching and sex is important for Christians. We, like Jesus was, are surrounded by religious hypocrites who are some of the worst perpetrators of sexual misconduct. Victims of rape, sexual abuse or any traumatic abuse are broken from their spiritual connection...

Adultery I've read a lot of the posts on this website and I've yet to find anyone suggesting that it's okay to betray a commitment between a husband and wife. The term adultery has evolved to mean any sexual interaction between two people who aren't married. For some reason, we always assume...

Take Your Time I’m not a trained counselor and I’m not qualified to offer advice. But I can tell you what worked for us. My wife and I have had an open marriage since we were first married. We discovered this together within a month of first getting married. Even so it took six years of...

The importance of play I've really enjoy having this forum as a resource. Our counselor is the only person who we talk in depth with about having an open marriage. There is so much to learn and understand. This particular thread is my favorite so far. So many of the situations going on in the...