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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Jared says the email he is working on, in response to her latest nastygram, will be his last. He already asked her to not contact him, but she did so anyway. He is composing a rather harsh response, and he thinks she won't respond after that. But who knows? I think he should block her and tell...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Thanks, YouAreHere. Yes, I agree that some are very good at hiding their crazy. Jared and I knew this couple for going on two years, and while certain things about them were a bit odd (most notably, how emotionally messed up at least three of their four kids seemed to be), we always thought they...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    I like keeping all my history in one place, so there is a postscript to my tale. After Jack sent me the email telling me that our relationship was over, I was puzzled, since the last time I had talked to him, the day before, we were flirting a little and talking about going hot-tubbing...
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    Is a diagnosable mental illness a red flag for you?

    I have been on the receiving end of a lot of verbal and emotional abuse and dishonesty from two people who were not mentally healthy, a partner who struggled with depression and anxiety, and a metamour who struggled with anxiety. (The two relationships were not connected in any way.) The partner...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Thanks, GalaGirl. I so wish I was better at walking away from bad poly situations such as this one. I tend to hang in there and try to make things work, because once I love someone, I always do feel completely committed to them even if we've never talked about it. I find it so ironic that Jack...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    (continued from previous post) Jack said that sitting down the four of us was a great idea, so we arranged a lunch at a local restaurant this past weekend. He said each couple should bring along their written relationship rules and we would discuss them and see if everyone was on the same page...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Let me preface this by saying that I am really, really bad at letting go of someone I love. And I can be bad at this to the point of stupidity. The Newtown shootings hit me hard, as they did most of the people I know. My local paper ran photos of all those sweet little children and blurbs about...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Thanks GalaGirl. I so appreciate your kind words.
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Thanks for the support, ThatGirlinGray and others. I let Jack IM with me last night. I didn't want to talk to him, but he accused me via email of hiding from him, not letting him speak to me. I hadn't signed into gchat for a few nights, I guess. So I signed in and let him talk to me there. He...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Northhome, Jack and I were platonic friends for close to a year before we actually went out on a date. I had known him for over a year before we started a physical relationship. We broke up, the first time, last February. We resumed things last April, but waited another three months to start...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    Yes, AnnabelMore, I can do indeed do better, and I already am. I have a loving husband and another boyfriend who truly loves me and would never let HIS wife throw a tantrum and exile an established partner without grounds. My feelings for Jack were never as intense as mine are for my other...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    BoringGuy, I think I tend to feel that I've wasted my time in a relationship when it has been with someone who was insincere about their feelings to me. I feel that is the case here. Jack has been telling me he loves me since this past summer, yet he was perfectly willing to toss aside our...
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    Quad gone nuclear, is there anything left in the ashes?

    (This is a bit long.) Until about 36 hours ago, I was in a loving relationship with my boyfriend, Jack, of over a year. We have been friends for even longer than that. Jack and I had some bumps early on in our relationship, in that he tried to date me along with his wife, Cait. He kept...
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    Trashtalking by partners and potential partners: What are your rules and tolerances?

    Just received yet another email from husband's girlfriend demanding that I apologize to HER. I didn't answer the first one, and I'm sure not answering this one. It's clear that despite husband patiently explaining what was going down that night, and why I reacted why I did, he made no impression...
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    Trashtalking by partners and potential partners: What are your rules and tolerances?

    Actually, nycindie, husband's girlfriend called me that because she didn't like how an interaction I had with him, in her presence, affected HER good time that evening. (He was a bit distracted and rude and failed to explain a situation at hand, I got annoyed with him, he explained himself, and...
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    Trashtalking by partners and potential partners: What are your rules and tolerances?

    WhatHappened, I really like your philosophy on this issue. My husband really wants to think the best of people he cares about, so when partners of his have belittled me, he tends to either not recognize that it's taking place, or else he defaults to "Poor dear, she's just upset, when she calms...
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    Trashtalking by partners and potential partners: What are your rules and tolerances?

    I am realizing that, while I have never had a partner who said an unkind word against my primary partner, my primary partner has been in several situations where partners or would-be partners of his were not nearly that respectful towards me, to put it mildly. I am also realizing that I have a...
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    Is bad hygiene a dealbreaker?

    I'm going to see him one more time this weekend, with my primary partner along, for a quick bite to eat in a public place. If the hygiene issues are COMPLETELY fixed (great breath, no greasy unkempt hair), then I might be considering him as potentially more than a friend. Otherwise, he's done...
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    Is bad hygiene a dealbreaker?

    OK, I don't know if my experience is typical, but I have had more than one first date with a poly man who was...not so fresh. The first two times, I wouldn't have been interested in dating them even if they were neatly groomed and smelled like a field of wildflowers, but I just met someone whom...
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    Does putting the needs of your primary partner first come naturally to you?

    Hierarchy has never really been an issue with me and other partners. Except for one exception in the distant past, I have always dated people who were also in strong primary relationships where they also used the primary/secondary model. I am quite used to being of lower priority in someone's...
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