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well even thought we are , as i have said, very good friends, i am on the outside so to speak. Details are kinda nil.. I am having some low days here & there as I really have no idea if my involvement will evolve or not. Sort of a stalemate for now. This whole journey has been great, fun...

I'm back I changed my mind about ending this thread & moving on. If I was to do so, my background story would not be a part of it, making my situation unexplained... I did have a good talk with my wife's gf at my request, after my wife suggested it. It was not so I could divulge my desire to...

Thanks everyone.. Thanks redpepper... I hope/think you are right! Well, i want to thank everyone who gave me their insight along the first leg of this journey. It was very helpful to read all of your posts & gave me more confidence to move forward into the unknown.. I feel that this thread...

some final thoughts Again thankyou everyone for your insight... I think that it is more of an adjustment/ growth period for myself. I say that I want to be involved more intimately, which is true, but what i am really asking for is it not to be ruled out. I found that as things moved along...

Thanks for your insight rpcrazy... Well, my wife & I had another conversation on the topic last evening. You are right... she does view her & her girlfriend in some sort of justifiable light & feels it is different from what my involvement would be... even after I explained that it is less of...

well you've had some great input so far so I'll let you off the hook this time...lol. Honestly, to put things into perspective, this is, as I said from the begining, a wonderful journey no matter what & I am greatful for that. I feel like I have just gone through the first emotional hurdle...

Yes, I have considered that she'll hope that I stop asking... so I have. We only really dicussed my true intentions a couple times. My main concern is that if I stop bringing up my hopeful involvemrnt to her, it'll fade, or if I do bring it up that it'll jepordise the possibility. hmmmm...

My wife has said that she isn't crazy about the idea of seeing me with another woman. She has also said a couple times early on that perhaps it is something that she needs to work on & can get over. I think that that statement may have set me up to hope... She knew that I was intrigued by the...

Yes I have. I first informed her of my fondness for our friend a few weeks ago & have discussed it a few times since, sometimes with frustrating results for me. The last time we discussed it was about a week ago or so... before that I was beating around the bush somewhat but the last talk I...

rarechild, thanks. I very much appretiate you sharing your story... it does help, especially coming from another perspective. My wife just isn't ready to see me with another woman, even if it's her girlfriend/my good friend. She didn't rule it out in the future but I am afraid that my...

Yes... I think once I settle down a bit emotionaly I will be able to stay the course. I must say that at present, it is a good situation. I would just like to see it "grow" down the road. hb

thnks for your input danny & texaschick... I really don't know what else I can do to push it along so I won't. My wife knows how I feel & I really can't do much more than that right now. Like I said she isn't especially keen on the idea right now & I haven't a clue how our friend feels about...

Yeah, he was great! My concerns... well, I just don't think that making this a true triad in on the radar. Like I said, I have talked to my wife who is respectful of my desire but isn't keen on the idea, at least at this point. .. her gf has not been made aware of it from either of us. I have...

... counting the days, hous, minutes... but I'm not sure it'll end up going in my favour here... I just really don't know. Side note, the three of us went to see Eddie Izzard the other night... great show!

ha ha... thanks danny... I will update as things move along. Again, thanks to all for your support.. hb

thanks redpepper... again, it's nice to hear another's perspective. I hope that you are right about my wife sorting it out in her mind etc... She's a great gal & the trust runs deep between us. It is taking a good amount of self control from my end as I am trying to be patient & allow things...

thanks danny, I think things will evolve over time. I have to say that initially, my more intimate involvement was not part of the deal & I did give my blessing for the two of them to embark on a relationship. That said, I gave my blessing based on who our friend is to us, & my fondness for...

Thanks RK for your input... another perspective is alway's helpful...

Update.. UPDATE: Well it has been a few weeks now & it is going well. I should mention that this is not an open poly relationship. Other than a few close friends it has been kept private. I am writting tonight because I have an issue... there are two relationships here... my wife &...

thankyou everyone for the support. I feel lucky that I can go on this journey.. it defies traditional way's of thinking but who ever said that the traditional way is the only way?... well, without tapping into religion & politics lol... which ain't gonna happen! 'think I'll stick around here...