New, engaged, need advice about polyamory

Daisvinci

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I'd like to start off by saying I apologize in advance for this potentially long wall of text. I have a lot to say, a lot of questions, and a lot of worries.

My fiance and I are long distance. He lives a state away from me, with his "ex" (our girlfriend now), his two children by her, and her family. Naturally, this has always been a precarious situation, even when we were monogamous together.

However, things happened, and when he threw out the suggestion during idle conversation, I took the bait. I'm an open-minded young woman, and apt to pleasing my fiance. I love him, adore him. He's my soul-mate, as silly as that sounds.

That being said, I was apprehensive about the idea as a whole, because I am a very jealous person. Not so much now that I'm older, but I am paranoid. I gave it one whole week to consider all the angles and details of it, and spoke about it with him. He's only really ever been in poly relationships. He answered the questions I had.

Of course, I said yes. We're not very long into our new poly relationship. Maybe 5 days? It feels a lot longer. I had a lot of issues in the beginning days, and managed to eradicate most of them in 5 days, proving I'm more than capable of doing this. However, it's very hard. I cannot see him yet. We'll be moving in with one another in a few months.

It's difficult to see him and our girlfriend kiss, hug, touch, do sexual things etc., while I sit there at a computer, unable to join. It makes me feel like the third wheel, honestly, even though I know I'm not, as he's told me multiple times. Surely this makes the situation that much more difficult, right?

Furthermore, I'm deathly afraid of him losing interest in me and gaining interest in her, after everything I've put in and all the effort. How do I stop feeling that way? Deep down, I know he'd never do that to me. I know he wouldn't leave me, or lose interest, but I'm so scared. I'm scared he'll fall deeper in love with her (again) than he is with me. How do I stop feeling this way?

I have set 2 rules. I hope this community understands the primacy of them. He doesn't like them. They are temporary, of course.

1. No sex with her until I move in with them. I'm a virgin. It's important to me to be the first one he makes love to in the X amount of time we've been together. Besides that, it just means something to me. It's a lot to ask, but she's fine with it. He has an issue, however. But, in my defense once more, she's been able to have two children with him, and sleep alone in the same bed with him for years and years, and have sex with him solo for years and years.

2. When we are living together, I'd like to have more opportunity to sleep with him, and be alone with him. He and I will be getting married, and I feel like I should have this privilege, at least temporarily.

I'd do anything for him, even things outside of my comfort zone. I just want to make him happy. Always. With every move I make. I feel as though, however, he wants me to be instantaneously comfortable with this, and not have insecurities at all. I hate disappointing him, and making him not proud of me. I just feel what I'm saying yes to and approving isn't good enough. It isn't to be a Nazi bitch. It's just to make things go smoother, so I don't say yes, then bawl 5 seconds later.

My fiance and I are on Skype 24/7, save for smoking breaks, bathroom breaks, and random errands. Always on cam, always together.
We sleep on Skype as well lately, all 3 of us. We do things that aren't outside of my comfort zone. I'm still building myself up to being okay with seeing certain mouth-related things. (wink wink)

I have no issue at all with our girlfriend. She's lovely, pretty, funny and caring. She and I are quite fond of one another, which is good. I'm just so severely jealous of what she gets to do with him right now, while I sit in my desk chair sulking.

So, with all that being said, I need advice or helpful hints on what I seem to be missing or whatever.

I really really REALLY want this to work out. I love my fiance with all my heart and would love to have a big family with him, with our now mutual girlfriend and their kids. The idea bothered me a bit at first, but now I'm just excited. But I can't get past my hang-ups, and periodically he just doesn't seem to understand how difficult it is to be over the computer while they watch. He's beginning to find answering my questions, sating my insecurities, rather annoying. I have the insistent desire to be his favorite. Is that wrong, to want to be the favorite, or the "alpha female"?

Thank you. Thank you. Please help.
 
This may not be the type of answer you were looking for, but once again, enough people dislike me and the way i communicate that i have nothing to lose.

What you need to do is get a life. Do something for yourself. Make yourself happy. I don't know you so i don't know what kinds of action items will work, but this is a lifetime thing. Your post is all "him him him i would do anything for him he's the center of my world how can i be the queen of his life". Don't be like that. Please.

I have opinions about this "our girlfriend" business and other things, but i'll leave it to other people to dissect that part for all of us.
 
I was going to attempt to respond from my phone, but forget that. I needed the full keyboard on my laptop, so I waited until I got back to my hotel.

I have no idea where to start. He lives with his "ex," who is the mother of his two children, and her family? Are you moving in with them, or are the five of you moving into a place together? If it was already precarious, then I am not sure that is a good idea.

I think you moved way too fast. You thought about it for a week, and this has been five days? What did you think about over the course of that week? A mono to poly relationship takes a lot of communication, work, and reassurance. Your worries are normal and to be expected, especially when you move that fast. I understand being open-minded, free spirited, flying with the wind, and everything else.

How did it go from him being with both of you as the hinge in a V, to a triad? I am puzzled by the "our" girlfriend thing. You speak of wanting to make him happy, but you say nothing about her. Are you only with her to make him happy, or do you genuinely have a romantic interest in her? There are lots of ways to do polyamory.

I understand wanting to please someone and make them happy, but does he feel the same about you? He wants you to magically get over your insecurities in this short amount of time? How unrealistic is that?

Do you have interests and hobbies outside of him? Too much togetherness is suffocating. I am of the mentality that I need to be away from someone so that I will have the chance to miss them. I second what BG said. You need to do something for yourself, and be in control of your happiness. Just as he does, just as she does.

As far as being jealous/envious of her, that is normal in an LDR. She gets to sleep next to him at night. She gets to see him and touch him every day. She gets the physical side that you will have soon. Anybody would feel that way. I really do not have any advice on that because you are moving there.

As far as your two rules, I think they are not ridiculous. In a poly relationship, it is perfectly acceptable to have needs like alone time, wanting to sleep next to that person, and so on and so forth. If he or she has a problem with it, that is a problem.

How long have you and your fiance been together?

I would also suggest that you stop doing things outside of your comfort zone if you are not really into them. I do things because I want to, not to someone else happy, not because it is what they want. Stop being a yes-woman. It is okay to have opinions, thoughts, feelings, views, wants, and needs of your own.

I need to figure out what else to say to this.

Ry
 
I'm going to suggest you read this thread:

http://www.polyamory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43306

It really opened my eyes to the need to maintain independence in life and to realize that my boyfriend and I (after 6 years) still aren't actually ready to move in with each other.

I've been in long-distance relationships, where it seems like the simple solution, when one of you has a house, and the other isn't super tied down, is to just move in together. But if you move away from the place and people and job you know, and allow yourself to be dependent on his existing life, you risk feeling trapped there, no matter what ends up happening with the relationships within the house.

The whole story wasn't very clear. You said she is his ex, but that they still live together, with their children, and they are now in a relationship again. Can you explain what happened there? What is your relationship with her?

I also wasn't clear if you'd visited them before. You need to do that. No amount of seeing their life on cam can really prepare you for being in the middle of it.

You also need to spend some time having some real detailed conversations about everyone's expectations in living together. This was what really hit home for me from the thread I linked. We'd never talked about the day-to-day details. That is a recipe for a real surprise, once all your stuff is there. And it's not an easy situation to reverse.
 
Hi DaisVinci,

I'm Jim. Welcome to the forum. Your situation is very interesting and complex.


I have set 2 rules. I hope this community understands the primacy of them. He doesn't like them. These are temporary, of course.

1. No sex with her until I move in with them. I'm a virgin, and it's important to me to be the first one he makes love to in the X amount of time we've been together, and besides that, it just means something to me. It's a lot to ask. She's fine with it. He has an issue, however. But, in my defense, she's been able to have 2 children with him, sleep in the same bed, have sex with him solo, for years and years.

2. When we are living together, I'd like to have more opportunity to sleep alone and be alone with him. He and I will be getting married, and I feel like I should have this privilege.

Please understand I'm not picking on you or casting negativity your way with what I'm about to say. Your virginity caught my eye. I imagine "new to poly + LDR + the entangled past of your man with his ex + your virginity" presents some tremendous challenges to you. I'm hoping that some of the forum ladies will have good advice to give you. I have some thoughts on the topic, but I think it more appropriately explored from a woman's point of view.

Best of luck. I will definitely follow this thread.
 
My fiancee and I are on Skype 24/7, save for smoking breaks, bathroom breaks and random errands. Always on cam, always together.
We sleep on Skype as well.


You really need to get out of the house and have a life. Stop with the 24/7 contact.

I am head over heels in love with my boyfriend. He only lives 24 miles from me. But we still have lives that need to be led. Folks have to work. Do none of you have jobs? We talk once a day when we are apart.

I am not even with my husband 24/7!

You need to step back and take a few days' break with no contact, and think really really hard about this set up. I can see a bad train wreck in your future.
 
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We have outside lives. When I made the comment that we were around each other 24/7, it was a mild exaggeration. However, both of us are the type of person that likes that clingy-ness.

He left his ex for me. Then we decided upon mutual understanding, for the betterment of our future and lives, that we should all be together.
He'd only been living with her because of financial situations at the time. I completely trust him in regards to that, as well as her.

I don't see a trainwreck, as he and I are stubborn people. But I do like our girlfriend very much.

All I'm wanting is advice on how to cope with the jealous portion of it, especially with it currently being online.
 
O-kay, the jealousy, how to cope with it:

Try getting together with each of them separately, one-on-one. They have time together without you; you should have time together alone with each of them, especially with her, since you don't know her as well. That might help you cope with your jealousy problem.

Good luck with that.
 
Have you met in person, or are you in an online relationship? How far apart do you live from one another?
 
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