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It, as usual honey, is an amazing expression of how you feel. Step by step, we will get to wherever this path leads us. As long as we are both flexible and willing, and I know we are :D Our strength lays in just how much we do love each other... and our belief that the love we share is worth...

Olderwoman, since you brought up your private messages, you stated quite clearly you would only apologise for offense if you had intended to offend, or if you realised you had been offensive. I find both those statements by you to be untrue, given the fact that if you intended to offend you...

Speaking only for myself and at the risk of sticking my neck on the chopping block... :p There are ways to be honest and genuine without being "dishonestly polite." There are ways to apologise for causing offence without apologising for what you said. Please also remember that people posting...

I don't know if you've read the book series (Twilight) - but the way it finishes... not a good idea :p though - maybe until that twist kisks in :D definitely

This, unless, of course, you didn't a) do it deliberately or b) realise, even though it was pointed out a number of times. *major sarcasm*

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Perhaps it would help not to attack a statement made by someone else - based on your own perception. I found the comment to be offensive... I wasn't hurt by it, nor am I 'delicate and fragile'... If you knew me at all you would understand I am very very strong. Just as you would not walk on...

As a woman - I also found great offence in the comment "Being a woman myself..." In the phrasing Olderwoman used it, I thought it was rather inappropriate. wanting to be understood is not the sole domain of women.

Because I do... I like to learn things and possibly stand corrected if my opinions are flawed. Strangely enough that comes from inviting others to comment on the question that I have already answered based on my own values... in order to verify or find the flaws in my own judgement I seek the...

Olderwoman your posts today take on a very superior air. I did not say at all that I expect him to know me completely and honestly... I said I need him to... and that is where MY exploration of myself comes in.. so I may know myself in order for him to know me... It is not a thing to pull out...

Older Woman, I have to agree with NK... You are stirring. Please do read some of the threads on this forum... there are many on here who are happily married with extra partners... you have asked the question - listen to the answers. why not do some research yourself instead of expecting...

For me personally... keeping my integrity IS a battle... I am still healing from an abusive marriage... my integrity in that marriage was compromised, for my own safety, for my children, simply to not be hurt on any given day... it has become a pattern for me to put myself aside, to not own my...

My two cents... Marriage has meaning to the various individuals involved in that marriage... state laws, benefits etc aside... for me... it is a commitment, showing the world how deeply I feel about someone else - in a way the world recognises, it shows my partner that my commitment is for...

This is why the question is about personal integrity - if you are hiding deep feelings from your partner for fear of hurt, yours or theirs... you are not being authentic, genuine or being honest... where is the integrity in that?

LOL no that's not what I was asking - in fact is in the point of the question... What price is acceptable to pay to keep your own integrity as a whole person... Price - other's pain, disruption, chaos my own pain is perfectly acceptable in my quest to be true to myself... causing pain to...

Open & Honest communication is the key to happy relationships... no matter how silly, awkward, or hard, no matter the heartbreak... Truth, Love, Flexibility and Respect. Personal Integrity is rare, and when you find it, you need to stay true to it... but at what cost? What price is too high...

So K read my thread last night... we had a long and very deep conversation. Things are still pretty confused and we are reaching new levels of understanding. He has signed up to the forum. Not sure if he will settle in here or continue to feel uncomfortable. I would love to introduce you all...

LMAO - awesome... duly informing my daughter of that one :D

So K has a nasty habit of starting a D&M just before he has to head off for work. Today he brought up the subject of T again. He came up with various theories about how it was his fault that T took off. I can't believe he is trying to lay the blame for T leaving at his own feet. And even with...

Experiment.... and let us know :p