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  1. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Thanks. What I've come to realize is, as a couple, Kiara and I can set whatever terms we are comfortable with. The real x factor is Kelsey, and how she feels about everything. It's encouraging to know you were able to have that with a friend and not have things get all crazy. Kiara is...
  2. mumbles

    Timing

    Hey Hourglass, I'm totally new to this, in fact I'm going on my first 'date' with a buddy of mine tonight... What I would say is, primary is primary - if that's the nature of your arrangement, primary always comes first. That being said, he's an adult, I'd just ask him. It shouldn't be...
  3. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    It was cool to be honest with Kiara. We talked more at some length and I let her read the thread. I think she has a good grip on things. She told me the sex wasn't related to Kelsey, which really puts my mind at ease. It turns out Kiara had had some of these thoughts before, too, and had not...
  4. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    I think you're right, Derby. I'm not sure if you've followed the whole thread, but that's the realization I had somewhere in the middle there. Basically the answer is, "No, I don't want to risk our friendship over it." Easy answer. It's honestly just nice that I can be upfront with my wife...
  5. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    I haven't talked about this anywhere else. I just stumbled here the other day. What I read made it sound like this was more of a catch-all, with a primary focus. Anyway, I just had a good conversation with Kiara. I'm going to let her read up, and maybe weigh in, if she's up to it.
  6. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    While I'm at it, I'm curious what anyone has to say about Kiara's increased sex drive/curiosity. I touched on it earlier, but it wasn't the central point. Basically she's become a LOT, LOT more confident in how she looks. I've always thought she was sexy, but she never did. It seems like her...
  7. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Thanks for the words, guys. I hope I'm not bothering you guys; it feels so good to have some people to talk with. I don't want to stop, even if I'm just going over things. @SNeacail: Kiara and I are both atheists; we see the world as a brief opportunity to live and enjoy ourselves and...
  8. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Negative concern? Sorry, I'm a little nervous composing my thoughts, especially after that tongue lashing. ;) j/k. It was a helpful perspective. Now that I have a second, I do want to respond a little bit. I think it's helping me get my head on straight. First of all, I never claimed to be...
  9. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    That's alright, Redpepper. It's nice to hear it from all angles, because I certainly can't see them all. My wife's medication isn't a negative concern. I actually tried to keep her off of it for quite a while, and she finally insisted, and she's been perfectly happy and adjusted since. I...
  10. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    How do I have sex with her? Many, many ways. :) But yeah, I see what you're saying. And being a little clear and business-like is sort of how I was planning on approaching it. You make a good point about being clear with the language, too. If she really had feelings for me, I would have to...
  11. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Thanks, good advice. One thing I really didn't consider at all was where it could lead. I just assumed it would be easy to pull the plug on things. Kiara is complicated, I guess. Maybe you can help me with this. She's never been very adventurous past the standard items, but she's always been a...
  12. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Thanks for the response. 1. That's a good suggestion, and I have flirted with Kelsey in the past around Kiara. I think she was aware of how I felt, but never held it against me. I am hyper-sexed, I suppose, and Kiara understands that pretty well. (We have been been together 10 years, married...
  13. mumbles

    Total newcomer, need some insight...

    Hello all, I need some help. I only have one friend close enough to talk about this with. It all started with a slightly peculiar conversation with my wife, Kiara. We were discussing threesomes, and who we would have if we did. The topic came to one girl in particular, my friend Kelsey...
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