Ravenscroft
Banned
Not properly a blogpost, more of an editorial, but I couldn't figure out which forum (if any) would be better... 
In any case, it needs to be broken into a few chunks.
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SUMMARY
Dr Elisabeth Sheff says (among other things) that polyamory is just another form of BDSM (along with swinging), & that "the poly community" is inherently intolerant of difference, particularly of nonwhite races & homosexuals.
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HOW I GOT THERE
First of all, let me make clear a prejudice: I distrust “activists.” I can trace this sentiment back through my experiences in the various “communities” of bisexuality, Wicca, BDSM, and polyamory.
Such groups tend to be rather poor examples of community. Rather, they are loose social agglomerations with highly permeable borders. They generally welcome membership by individuals who have no actual interest in the supposed defining factor of the group. Rather than communities, they are probably more akin to SIGs, the special-interest groups some may have encountered in Mensa or ACM publications or similar. In the end, though, none is cohesive enough to ever become a social movement, so it’s doubtful whether activism has any necessary place.
Setting that aside, the quality of activism is also very poor. Rare is the “activist” who actually steps out and works with the general community, with other organizations, or with government. A “poly activist,” for instance, is someone who tells self-identified polyamorous people that polyamorous people are wonderful beings, and noble for tolerating the abuse (often entirely imaginary) inflicted upon them by the larger world. Generally, the presenters of these mass preening sessions receive cash or recognition (reciprocal preening); in some cases, they publish guidebooks to reinforce the preening between sessions, and may even manage to parlay their “edgy” stance into paid publication or research money.
Here’s an example: Melita Noel. In 2005, Sage published her paper, “Progressive Polyamory: Considering Issues of Diversity,” in Sexualities. As I had raised questions of diversity in my book, and in fact for a few years previous in forum discussions that led to the book, I was interested in the subject area. I was quite surprised to find that Polyamory: Roadmaps for the Clueless &Hopeful was one of the twelve books Noel examined. (Actually, reading the bibliography, I can only spot ten.)
Until back around 2008, I could find full versions of “Progressive Polyamory” online; now it’s just an abstract and the references unless you pay up, so FWIW:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1363460706070003?journalCode=sexa
Noel claimed that she had performed “content analysis” on all those books. Right there, I doubted her. I have done thorough sociological content analysis, and it is a PAIN. First of all, you either need a textfile, or to enter every last damned word manually. (My book alone is like 150,000 words.) Then you need to check frequency of usage (a significant word that appears very regularly is significant, as is one that rarely occurs). Then you need to consider terms that use more than one word. THEN you need to look at how words interrelate in the text. This crap can go on forever, or until the grant money runs out, whichever comes first.
Noel didn’t go that far. It quickly began to appear that she just skimmed through with a checklist, noting the existence (or not) of a short list of keywords and maybe concepts.
For me, that means one of two things. Most optimistically, this was a “first pass” in order to note points of interest for further deep study and analysis. Instead, it went with Door Number Two: make the data fit the preconception.
In this case, that’d be “these authors are just a bunch of privileged meanies!! They’re oppressing us and impeding the Glorious Revolution!!” The abstract says it all.
So far as I can tell, Noel has never lived polyamorously, meaning that she’s telling others how they need to run their lives, which I find questionable at best. Instead, she “amplifies conversations that celebrate Diverse Sexuality and Gender (DSG).” Yes, really.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/melitanoel
I have a strange enjoyment for sharp criticism. It keeps me intelligent. Often, answering back to a critic forces me to tighten up my own critical processes.
Noel’s paper can only make me stupider. See, in my Introduction, one of the things which I had specifically addressed, in great detail, is my own limitations. So, to then turn around and bark at me for NOT addressing these things is ludicrous at best, and maybe insane. A source that cites her paper even quotes a chunk of my Intro that Noel used!!
More interesting is what Noel chose to ignore. In that Intro, I made clear that
I have done some work to properly define polyamory as a term and a concept, in order that people improve likelihood of actually discussing the same subject. I am in no way interested in “normativity” – quite the opposite. For many years I’ve said that maybe there needs to be (say) “lesbian polyamory” or “black polyamory” or “Thai polyamory” or “New Orleans polyamory,” because the context in which it is practiced likely requires behaviors and thought patterns that wouldn’t work (or would be entirely vestigial) in another setting. (Certainly, closed-form polyamory (group marriage) is quite distinct from open-form.)
One recurring form of budding activism is when the bright idea is floated to “make our community more diverse.” On the one hand, I am glad that it occurs because it means a few are at least paying attention, and willing to admit that there’s a lot of sameness in “the community” (which is denied by some even when presented with clear fact).
Nobody has any idea how to do such. In our instance, polyamory is not out on the streets recruiting members, so it’s not as though we can just change our marketing strategy. People simply tend to hang out with others similar to them. As I stated in my admission of my own likely biases, my limited personal diversity draws boundaries that are to a high degree self-perpetuating. It is up to those outside the fence to step through, and NOT for me or anyone else to go out and drag them in. To make any such attempt means that I’m claiming to be somehow superior to them, that I know better than they what is best for them. Artificially extending the boundaries in order to rope in people who are “almost the same as me” is nothing less than a sneaky version of the same superiorist mindset.
And that brings us to Dr Elisabeth Sheff.
In any case, it needs to be broken into a few chunks.
________________
SUMMARY
Dr Elisabeth Sheff says (among other things) that polyamory is just another form of BDSM (along with swinging), & that "the poly community" is inherently intolerant of difference, particularly of nonwhite races & homosexuals.
________________
HOW I GOT THERE
First of all, let me make clear a prejudice: I distrust “activists.” I can trace this sentiment back through my experiences in the various “communities” of bisexuality, Wicca, BDSM, and polyamory.
Such groups tend to be rather poor examples of community. Rather, they are loose social agglomerations with highly permeable borders. They generally welcome membership by individuals who have no actual interest in the supposed defining factor of the group. Rather than communities, they are probably more akin to SIGs, the special-interest groups some may have encountered in Mensa or ACM publications or similar. In the end, though, none is cohesive enough to ever become a social movement, so it’s doubtful whether activism has any necessary place.
Setting that aside, the quality of activism is also very poor. Rare is the “activist” who actually steps out and works with the general community, with other organizations, or with government. A “poly activist,” for instance, is someone who tells self-identified polyamorous people that polyamorous people are wonderful beings, and noble for tolerating the abuse (often entirely imaginary) inflicted upon them by the larger world. Generally, the presenters of these mass preening sessions receive cash or recognition (reciprocal preening); in some cases, they publish guidebooks to reinforce the preening between sessions, and may even manage to parlay their “edgy” stance into paid publication or research money.
Here’s an example: Melita Noel. In 2005, Sage published her paper, “Progressive Polyamory: Considering Issues of Diversity,” in Sexualities. As I had raised questions of diversity in my book, and in fact for a few years previous in forum discussions that led to the book, I was interested in the subject area. I was quite surprised to find that Polyamory: Roadmaps for the Clueless &Hopeful was one of the twelve books Noel examined. (Actually, reading the bibliography, I can only spot ten.)
Until back around 2008, I could find full versions of “Progressive Polyamory” online; now it’s just an abstract and the references unless you pay up, so FWIW:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1363460706070003?journalCode=sexa
Noel claimed that she had performed “content analysis” on all those books. Right there, I doubted her. I have done thorough sociological content analysis, and it is a PAIN. First of all, you either need a textfile, or to enter every last damned word manually. (My book alone is like 150,000 words.) Then you need to check frequency of usage (a significant word that appears very regularly is significant, as is one that rarely occurs). Then you need to consider terms that use more than one word. THEN you need to look at how words interrelate in the text. This crap can go on forever, or until the grant money runs out, whichever comes first.
Noel didn’t go that far. It quickly began to appear that she just skimmed through with a checklist, noting the existence (or not) of a short list of keywords and maybe concepts.
For me, that means one of two things. Most optimistically, this was a “first pass” in order to note points of interest for further deep study and analysis. Instead, it went with Door Number Two: make the data fit the preconception.
In this case, that’d be “these authors are just a bunch of privileged meanies!! They’re oppressing us and impeding the Glorious Revolution!!” The abstract says it all.
And as it turns out, it’s not a scholarly article, but polemic. First of all, any “activist” who calls for Glorious Revolution while holding out her/his hand for payment is probably a con artist who will gladly say whatever it takes to close a sale. The first words of the abstract say it all. And she then goes on to damn ALL “polyamorists” based on that dozen books.Polyamory has the potential to revolutionize how people in the USA engage in and think about relationships and families at the beginning of the 21st century.
However, as indicated through content analysis of 12 texts published between 1992 and 2004, polyamorists fail to meaningfully acknowledge or collaborate with others with shared interests to advocate common goals. In particular, these texts, written by and geared toward an assumed audience of white, middle-class, able-bodied, educated, American people fail to address how nationality, race, class, age and (dis)ability intersect with gender and sexuality in the theory and practice of polyamory.
In order to successfully challenge systemic, intersecting oppressions, polyamorists must move beyond the limits of identity politics to build coalitions and norms of inclusivity around shared issues, such as expanding definitions of relationships, families and communities.
So far as I can tell, Noel has never lived polyamorously, meaning that she’s telling others how they need to run their lives, which I find questionable at best. Instead, she “amplifies conversations that celebrate Diverse Sexuality and Gender (DSG).” Yes, really.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/melitanoel
I have a strange enjoyment for sharp criticism. It keeps me intelligent. Often, answering back to a critic forces me to tighten up my own critical processes.
Noel’s paper can only make me stupider. See, in my Introduction, one of the things which I had specifically addressed, in great detail, is my own limitations. So, to then turn around and bark at me for NOT addressing these things is ludicrous at best, and maybe insane. A source that cites her paper even quotes a chunk of my Intro that Noel used!!
If a given person identifies with the term “polyamorous,” chances are that she or he is a citizen of the United States, raised in a middle-class household by a nominally Christian family with moderate-to-poor communication skills, where folks were loving and supportive but not great at showing how they felt ... he or she is most likely of high intelligence, has spent two or three years in college, is conversant in technology and the Internet.
More interesting is what Noel chose to ignore. In that Intro, I made clear that
If I’d glossed over this stuff and claimed (or at least intimated) that I was speaking for everyone, I ‘d have been deserving of criticism. Or, as I said elsewhere, “There is no way I can speak to the experience of a black lesbian working two jobs to eke by in downtown Chicago.” Nor, incidentally, can that made-up person speak directly to my experience. We have a basis for discussion, but very little inherent commonality.This book is essentially being written by, about, and for middle-class Caucasians raised in the United States in the latter half of the twentieth century AD. ... I truly do not know my own biases well enough to correct for all of them....
...I restricted myself as much as possible to speaking about heterosexuals. ...I in no way consider myself a representative of gay men, much less of lesbians.
I have done some work to properly define polyamory as a term and a concept, in order that people improve likelihood of actually discussing the same subject. I am in no way interested in “normativity” – quite the opposite. For many years I’ve said that maybe there needs to be (say) “lesbian polyamory” or “black polyamory” or “Thai polyamory” or “New Orleans polyamory,” because the context in which it is practiced likely requires behaviors and thought patterns that wouldn’t work (or would be entirely vestigial) in another setting. (Certainly, closed-form polyamory (group marriage) is quite distinct from open-form.)
One recurring form of budding activism is when the bright idea is floated to “make our community more diverse.” On the one hand, I am glad that it occurs because it means a few are at least paying attention, and willing to admit that there’s a lot of sameness in “the community” (which is denied by some even when presented with clear fact).
Nobody has any idea how to do such. In our instance, polyamory is not out on the streets recruiting members, so it’s not as though we can just change our marketing strategy. People simply tend to hang out with others similar to them. As I stated in my admission of my own likely biases, my limited personal diversity draws boundaries that are to a high degree self-perpetuating. It is up to those outside the fence to step through, and NOT for me or anyone else to go out and drag them in. To make any such attempt means that I’m claiming to be somehow superior to them, that I know better than they what is best for them. Artificially extending the boundaries in order to rope in people who are “almost the same as me” is nothing less than a sneaky version of the same superiorist mindset.
And that brings us to Dr Elisabeth Sheff.