New here! Long story, advice would be appreciated (:

Littlebean

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Hellooo there! I've been lurking around on the forums for a while, but haven't got the details down or anything - I just enjoy reading other peoples' stories. I'm not even sure this is the right definition for what I'm doing with my life.

I have always been a serial monogamist - since I was in my early teens, I've been in serious relationships. I had a monogamous partner for four years - we started the relationship out very casually, and were both sleeping with multiple partners, clearly preferred the other, but enjoyed the casual and open nature of the relationship for a certain while. After being pressured into defining the relationship by our social group, and I think due to teenage possessive behaviour, we moved very quickly in our relationship and lived together within 8 months. Very quickly after that, we began playing traditional gender roles, and it became stifling. As the relationship went on, we discussed my preference for both men and women - I have never slept with a woman, but have often curiously kissed girls in bars after a few drinks etc. Eventually he confronted me about it, and I stopped this behaviour, but we always entertained the idea of a threesome.

We were both clearly unhappy by the middle of the third year into the relationship - living together so young, the seriousness of the whole thing got to be too much. He felt suffocated, and pulling away from me, I felt unloved, there was an emotional indiscretion that was quite embarrassing for me, and we split up, but continued living together, for now. He will be moved out in several months.

We have continued sleeping together (amazing sex!) during the time that we were living together. I suggested polyamory or some other polyfidelity to sort out his need to experiment sexually with other women, and mine to experiment with both sexes. He said, at the time, that he couldn't deal with the jealousy. I have been away from home, 4000 miles to be exact, for several weeks now, and we have discussed this idea further over the phone. He is much more keen now, and excited about the prospect, he even suggested it to me. We have another month and a half until we'll see each other again - this is the longest we've gone in the entire four years that we've been together (or now, indefinitely not-together)

We have decided for now not to discuss our 'reunion' with our friends - but I can see from what I've read that it's a big 'nono' to not be open about the definition of your relationship. I think that despite our love, deep attraction and respect for one another, neither of us are ready to define it to ourselves, or to others, as 'back together' (implies monogamy) or 'friends with benefits' (eugh) or whatever other term that could be used. For now, we're quite happy not using labels, but I keep reading that it's not okay to not label it, and it's not okay to not have ground rules...

Both of us clearly have a need to sleep with others - we are very young to be in a monogamous relationship, but don't want to lose the love/sexual wonderfulness/ passion that we've spent the last long while building... polyamory or something of the sort seems like a good solution.

I would really appreciate some advice to people starting out with this type of relationship... I think we are both more keen on finding others to sleep with, because we have difficulty focusing emotional contact on more than one person at once (hence the emotional indiscretion)... I'm not even sure where we're going with this, but I'm quite excited about the prospect, I love him a lot, but I need to experiment, and I need him to experiment, so that we can be sure about one another. Who knows, perhaps it will stay this way?

Anyway, thank you! I am VERY new to this, so please, please avoid sending me horrid messages... I see that a lot on forums, but this seems like a very open, welcoming community.

xxLB
 
As to the labels, I do get where you are coming from. People want those labels firmly in place!

I had to go through a re-labeling process myself recently. The Philosopher and I were once part of a triad that failed spectacularly. He and his wife are now divorced, and he and I are gingerly moving forward with our own relationship. Gingerly, because he has a lot of healing to do from the divorce process itself; he has two children who are his main priority (which I wholly support); and because I, too, had some healing to do. The triad was never out to anyone, but we did all live together, and now people are questioning our status.

Best friends? Most definitely, but that's not all. Gf/bf? That implies a certain degree of entwining our lives that we are just not ready for. Sexual partners? Yes, but that is nobody's business. Which label? Heck, I don't know. None really tell the whole story.

I tell people we are dating. Why? Because dating pertains to what you are doing in the here and now. It allows for movement of the relationship to an obviously more committed state, but it says you are not there quite yet. While the Philosopher and I are not interested in dating anyone else at the moment, the terminology, "dating" doesn't demand exclusivity either. Perhaps this would work for you?
 
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Hi Bookbug! Thanks for letting me know your story, that was very uplifting. I'm very sorry that you've had to suffer some sadness in your life to experience the happiness that you've now got, but it sounds like you two have something very emotionally developed worked out.

I do like your suggestion of just using 'dating' as a definition - I think that's what I'll do, if need be. There will certainly be times when said partner will be at my house with my new flatmate, and I'm sure that eventually she will have a few questions to ask.

Thank you loads! xxLB
 
Hi LB! Welcome!

I agree with bookbug, that you could define it as dating.

I've also personally always liked the term 'involved'. I've used that definition for all kinds of relationships that go beyond platonic friendship.

Ultimately though, I'd *genuinely* say - fuck what everybody else thinks.

Seriously.

It's really nobody else's business. All that matters is what the two of you feel. The only people you may need to define it with are other partners, so that they know where the land lies. Even then, you don't have to define it with one word. You can offer a description "we love each other very much and have sex together, but it's not what we'd call a primary relationship" (or whatever you feel is the best definition!).

Thousands of different types of relationships exist between platonic, sexual and romantic. For instance, after also settling down too early (19) with my former boyfriend, we opened up and then broke up, because I wanted to explore women further. It was the best decision for both of us! Nowadays, I've known him for 10 years, we live together, and sleep in the same bed. He's more than a best friend - he's a soulmate. Do people find that weird and ask questions? All the time! I'm happy to answer questions. Am I bothered if they think it's strange? Honestly, I couldn't care less!

I'd rather describe my relationships than define them, where definitions don't easily fit.

That's the advice I'd give to you :) I'd also add that it sounds like you are heading towards a path that you both want, so enjoy it!
 
Ohhh you guys have made me feel so much more normal about all this! Sparklepop, your story is great, I absolutely love it. Thank you so much both for sharing, and I agree, fuck what everybody else says. Who cares if it's weird? xxLB
 
For now, we're quite happy not using labels, but I keep reading that it's not okay to not label it, and it's not okay to not have ground rules...
Where the hell are you reading that???!!! A LOT of people here feel that labels suck and rules are not cool. But mainly what I want to say is it's your relationship, live it the way you see fit. There are no poly police going to tell you to do poly a certain way. There really is no one unified way to live polyamorously.
 
Hey there LB,

Nice to see another Londoner :)

Are you in London at the moment or is that where you're from originally? If so come along to the Poly Picnic down in south London this afternoon - it's on the meetup group http://www.meetup.com/polylondon/events/187700222/

I've just come out of my first ever poly relationship and kinda feel the need to surround myself with poly people so that I can keep reminding myself this can work and it can work long term.
 
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