Spinoff question from metamour thread

that would be my preference this is also why I only date people who live alone

I think it's natural to keep a system like this to help support your preferences.

I like to have my own place, or at the very least to have my own space that is decidedly mine, without negotiation. This is a system I like to keep in place to help keep me off of the "relationship escalator" and to keep me from becoming needlessly encumbered. Others build systems with financial encumbrance, multiple families and children in which there can't be any entry without at least basic induction into the family and a level of commitment.

It's not a "right or wrong" scenario - it's merely a statement of preference based on our personalities.

To the original post, this also is not a statement about the depth or potential value of a relationship as these are purely value statements based on personal perspective. It is factual to state that if I refuse to meet your metamour that I will not get invited to family functions with you and your metamour (and similar events) ... but while some call this a severe limitation to the "depth" of the relationship, this might not at all limit how I view my intimate connection with you. Some people find that one can only "truly love someone" if they "love all aspects of their lives"... but that is a personal matter and not a statement about how humans connect in some general way. Intimacy (or lack thereof) is between the two people experiencing it and cannot be accurately measured from the outside - all attempts to do so will just leave you frustrated.
 
. . . that person relegates themselves to maybe one available weekend a month (that he is not with the family) and 3 or 4 nights per month, depending on what city he is in . . .
I find it interesting that you look at that kind of schedule as something to which one would be relegated, a word which generally has a negative connotation, since it means to consign or dismiss someone to an "inferior" rank or position, or even to banish them in some cases. It seems like you view that kind of scheduling as something that would prevent a relationship from becoming "serious" or deep and meaningful, like it really couldn't develop into deeper feelings, etc., on that kind of timetable, or like anyone who would accept that isn't going to invest much into it.

It's odd to me, because I look at what you wrote and thought, "Hmm, 3 or 4 nights/month averages out to seeing someone nearly every week - cool!" That is something I wouldn't consider to be infrequent at all. And to have the added bonus of spending a whole weekend a month without any pressure to befriend my metamour and do things with any kids he has, well Ooh-la-la! For me, it would be a rather perfect arrangement in my opinion - and I know I would even want a break from that kind of frequency every now and then. I would need time for my other relationships as well, of course, in addition to my job, hobbies, friendships, and so on.

Does it mean that those kind of parameters would keep the relationship at only a casual level? No, not at all! If I was seeing someone and that was how often we could see each other, well of course I could love him - well and deeply - and be passionate about the man and our relationship. I certainly could invest my heart, see us developing intimacy (emotionally, physically, intellectually) together, and view the relationship as something quite meaningful. We would use the time spent together as well as we could, so as not to waste it. People have loving, committed LDRs with much less time together than that!

Obviously, once a new person joins the family, we'd all spend time one on one (or maybe it would be only my girlfriend or only his, I dunno). But neither he nor I have capacity to have the full on kind of relationship we like with partners who don't interact.
This I am not following - are you saying that someone he would be involved with, even at the 3-4 times + 1 weekend per month example you gave, would be considered as having "joined" your family? Or they have to work their way up to that? Or is this person joining your family (theoretically) a completely different person from the one with the aforementioned weekly schedule?

Balancing 100+ hour work weeks, travel, family, future family, and two separate relationships (by which I mean two different lives with two different families) is just too much for me to handle. If he could do so, great, but he says it sounds too tedious for him at the moment.
To me, it's strange to think of it that way. I don't see having two relationships as balancing two different lives and two different families. If a lover of mine was married and with all the responsibilities you mentioned, his time with me would just be like any amount of time he would spend with a friend. Just come over, hangout, go to dinner, do fun things, have deep philosophical discussions, fuck each other's brains out, whatever. I am childfree, live alone,and have no desire to cohabit with anyone ever again - so there wouldn't be a need to become a part of my family or create a whole new life for himself to be with me.
 
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Is going on a date *outside* of the house allowed? It sounds like diving into the Brady Bunch scene is a requirement lol

I don't have children but there are times I have to be at home. Only seeing someone in their space means that I can usually see them about half as much as I could if they were fine coming over to my place and risking the possibility of running into a metamour. A metamour who will more than likely be seeing or about to see one of their other partners but will not expect to hang with us unless specifically invited.

A friend well versed in RA always says that if one's rule is to always go against the rules, it isn't RA. It's just someone with some sort of oppositional disorder doing their thing. RA is about doing what you want to do despite the rules. That means you might choose an ultra traditional relationship route but only because that's what works for you and not because society says so.
 
She explained that in her post, if you bothered to read it. And actually, she specifically talks about partners going to other people's places.

If I "bothered" to read it? Wow, condescending much? I read her post three times. Her mention of partners going to other's places is confined to "It would be impossible for one of us to leave for an extended length of time." I was attempting to clarify another poster's question, specifically related to the bit of Emmy's post I quoted. Feel free to make other assumptions about me and what I do or don't "bother" doing, though, if it gives you something to do with your time.
 
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If I "bothered" to read it? Wow, condescending much? I read her post three times. Her mention of partners going to other's places is confined to "It would be impossible for one of us to leave for an extended length of time."

I was attempting to clarify another poster's question, specifically related to the bit of Emmy's post I quoted. Sorry you've taken that to mean I didn't "bother" to read the rest of her post.

How about you don't assume what I have or haven't "bothered" to do? You aren't me, you aren't in my brain, and you have no clue what I do or don't do.

Clarifying a question that was extremely rude and presumed that Emmy did not ever leave her house. I will speak up for members that are treated poorly.
 
I'm not the only one who attempted to clarify, Candied, and I will stick up for myself when someone makes incorrect assumptions about me.
 
I look at what you wrote and thought, "Hmm, 3 or 4 nights/month averages out to seeing someone nearly every week - cool!" That is something I wouldn't consider to be infrequent at all. And to have the added bonus of spending a whole weekend a month without any pressure to befriend my metamour and do things with any kids he has, well Ooh-la-la! For me, it would be a rather perfect arrangement in my opinion

I apologize if I made it seem he had that much time. The free time he has on the weekends are A) Friday nights (and I would feel bad for offering THAT up to a metamour, he's too tired to do anything but watch TV that night and goes to sleep early in order to get his kids the next morning at 7:30am) and B) Sunday afternoons after 12pm. Sometimes Saturday afternoons after 2pm, but usually not till 8pm and sometimes he stays with his parents and kids that night (they LOVE that!). Sunday nights are generally free, but he often has flights that leave that afternoon. And the 3-4 nights are a block, so, usually, for me, I split that time between family/him/his work/my work. A few hours each night. Sometimes there are one or two nights among those that are completely free. So a person would likely get one night per month (and for him that is offering quite a bit, as a side relationship from his other life).
 
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A friend well versed in RA always says that if one's rule is to always go against the rules, it isn't RA. It's just someone with some sort of oppositional disorder doing their thing. RA is about doing what you want to do despite the rules. That means you might choose an ultra traditional relationship route but only because that's what works for you and not because society says so.

Since you quoted me at the top of your post, am I correct in assuming that you are attributing this "oppositional disorder" diagnosis to me? Since it's coming from someone "well versed in RA" it's something I take very seriously...
 
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