Reverie
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(...continued from previous)
So, yeah! I feel good about that. The flowchart is a joke, of course—we're not actually robots, and real life isn't always as cut and dried as yes or no—but making it and talking out the principles behind it, and coming to the revelation that we could get the chronology in place (friends first!) to weed out jerks...it has brought me to the place of being able to make that "trust fall" that Rider won't bring people in who might want to ultimately hurt me.
It's funny, because all it really did was relocate the trust to a different place. I still have to trust him completely, but now I'm trusting that he can follow a logical process rather than having to trust his judgment of someone's motives or character. And I know that he is far better at the former than the latter (at least when it comes to attractive women)!
And reflecting on my earlier exchange with playfulgirl, this is also a far more optimistic viewpoint. This viewpoint presumes that there are awesome people who want to be our friends, and whom one or both of us might like enough to take to a new level after that.
It also totally removes any whiff of the third party being treated as less than human, or getting hurt by having disappointed expectations that end up not being met. If the only premise being offered upfront is "You seem cool and I think I might want to get to know you better, so let's be friends," and we intend to continue being their friends whether or not something more ever happens, then if nothing more ever happens, we haven't taken anything away that was originally on offer—no one loses.
Even with friendship being all that is originally on offer, it does not preclude the possibility of more happening down the line. After all, Rider and I started as platonic friends. And so did Sam and I. And Rider and Kitty. And Jake and I. And lots of friends we have that are happy couples started as friends with each other first. Friendships developing into more is a pretty common thing.
Making friends with lots of people, including lots of attractive people, and being open to more happening eventually (without rushing it), seems like a pretty cool way to do poly. And it removes the frustration of "dating" in a cold-calling kind of sense. And it ensures that people get some idea of what poly is about by hearing us talk about it and seeing us live it, before they ever dip a toe in with one of us.
I honestly think that out of our ten pre-existing "guidelines," a "friends first" general umbrella policy brings the number down to like four or five, depending whether #5 is even considered a "guideline" rather than just a logistical strategy:
1. Safer sex
2. Total honesty
3. Friends first
4. Reserving certain (pre-identified) "firsts"
5. Check joint schedule before committing to plans
So, I guess I just solved life today? I am actually kind of eager to find out! I actually feel excited at the idea of befriending these mystery people that Rider might eventually bring around—the tiny seeds of compersion before a human is even identified.
So, yeah! I feel good about that. The flowchart is a joke, of course—we're not actually robots, and real life isn't always as cut and dried as yes or no—but making it and talking out the principles behind it, and coming to the revelation that we could get the chronology in place (friends first!) to weed out jerks...it has brought me to the place of being able to make that "trust fall" that Rider won't bring people in who might want to ultimately hurt me.
It's funny, because all it really did was relocate the trust to a different place. I still have to trust him completely, but now I'm trusting that he can follow a logical process rather than having to trust his judgment of someone's motives or character. And I know that he is far better at the former than the latter (at least when it comes to attractive women)!
And reflecting on my earlier exchange with playfulgirl, this is also a far more optimistic viewpoint. This viewpoint presumes that there are awesome people who want to be our friends, and whom one or both of us might like enough to take to a new level after that.
It also totally removes any whiff of the third party being treated as less than human, or getting hurt by having disappointed expectations that end up not being met. If the only premise being offered upfront is "You seem cool and I think I might want to get to know you better, so let's be friends," and we intend to continue being their friends whether or not something more ever happens, then if nothing more ever happens, we haven't taken anything away that was originally on offer—no one loses.
Even with friendship being all that is originally on offer, it does not preclude the possibility of more happening down the line. After all, Rider and I started as platonic friends. And so did Sam and I. And Rider and Kitty. And Jake and I. And lots of friends we have that are happy couples started as friends with each other first. Friendships developing into more is a pretty common thing.
Making friends with lots of people, including lots of attractive people, and being open to more happening eventually (without rushing it), seems like a pretty cool way to do poly. And it removes the frustration of "dating" in a cold-calling kind of sense. And it ensures that people get some idea of what poly is about by hearing us talk about it and seeing us live it, before they ever dip a toe in with one of us.
I honestly think that out of our ten pre-existing "guidelines," a "friends first" general umbrella policy brings the number down to like four or five, depending whether #5 is even considered a "guideline" rather than just a logistical strategy:
1. Safer sex
2. Total honesty
3. Friends first
4. Reserving certain (pre-identified) "firsts"
5. Check joint schedule before committing to plans
So, I guess I just solved life today? I am actually kind of eager to find out! I actually feel excited at the idea of befriending these mystery people that Rider might eventually bring around—the tiny seeds of compersion before a human is even identified.
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