The Best Life Yet

We seem to have (at least for the moment) turned things around. I decided when I woke up Saturday morning, before I even opened my eyes, that I was going to scrap the processing for the next little while and just focus on basically silently loving Rider till he felt loved enough to calm down and stabilize some.

You said in one of your earlier posts that you feel like you can't do anything right, which is a difficult place to be, especially when you're not doing anything wrong. However, your intentional effort to be loving, kind and temporarily forgo processing is probably one of the best things you can do for a partner struggling with feelings of displacement and the fear of potentially massive upheaval in their lives. You two probably still have more to go through but making efforts like this does a lot to calm the situation or like you said, offers a little stability to Rider and it created an atmosphere where you felt comfortable asking him to meet some of your needs. In the long run I think shared positive experiences will give him a place to refer to when he's feeling icky about things as well as creating a more stable place for him to potentially exam his fears related to all this. I hope things stay stable and calm for a while

and he dozed while I read a book he is lending me, Siddhartha. He said that's his favorite book and he couldn't believe I hadn't read it. It's a short one, so I'm actually now already 70% through it.

So, what do you think of it?
 
I did not end up staying in last night after all. Watching Dustin get ready to play his show enticed me too much. He was wearing a thin white t-shirt with an extra wide collar opening, showing off just a bit of his chest hair, well-fitting jeans, an army jacket, and the shoes he calls his "Beatle boots." He'd combed his hair slightly differently than usual, and he just looked sooooo delicious. I could not sit idly by and let him have all the fun without me, even if it meant being tired today.

Before the show, we picked up ingredients and I made guacamole and nachos, satisfying a craving, and we watched some TV. Around 9:30, Pete picked us up and we went to the venue. It was a really cool venue. I met some members of the other bands that were playing, had a glass of wine, and took some pictures. I love watching Dustin on stage. His little dance moves kill me.

They were done playing by like 12:30 or so, and we went back to Dustin's place. Dustin and I stayed up probably too late chatting with Pete, and then we went to bed. I fell asleep the moment my head hit the pillow, and slept really well. I purposely spaced my alarms out so that there would be time to have sex in the morning, and there was, and we did. It was very good for half-asleep morning sex.

One thing that happened that ended up causing a moment of stress was this: I had misplaced my wallet at some point over the weekend. I'd asked both boys to scour their areas looking for it, and Rider eventually found it in our car. He'd texted me a picture of where he'd put it for me—on my nightstand. I was happy and showed Dustin the picture. Well, I hadn't noticed that the coconut oil was clearly visible on the nightstand in the pic, and Dustin knows that coconut oil = sex, so he was inadvertently exposed to a reminder of my sex with Rider.

He didn't immediately react, but when he was getting ready for his show, and I was lying on his bed watching, he said something about my being "almost perfect."

I put on a fake pout. "I was perfect yesterday! What happened?!"

He sighed. "You are perfect. It's just . . . the situation."

And then, as we were making plans for the week, I was telling him I need to clean my apartment in preparation for his staying with me this coming weekend. I told him maybe I'll do it on Wednesday (his day) and then come over to his place after. He wanted to know why I couldn't just do it Thursday (Rider's day) when I'd already be at home, and I had to explain that Thursday is the last night I get with Rider before we don't see each other for five days.

"Oh, hot date night with the husband," he said, with a grumbly tone.

I'd been wondering where those little barbs were coming from suddenly, and I found out when Pete was over and was talking about how he'd masturbated till there were sores on his cock. I asked him if he'd tried coconut oil, and Dustin piped up about the coconut oil on the nightstand in the photo. Oh. I suddenly understood that that's where it was all coming from.

Things seem fine now, though, so I guess he's over it. I'm kinda dumb for not realizing it was in the pic. I need to be more careful—I know how those "out of nowhere" reminders of sex with other partners can be jarring. Whoops.
 
For some reason I am obsessed with Dustin today. It's been a rough, busy day at work, but it's all I can do to not spend the entire day creeping through his Facebook photos. I shot these two videos last night and he's playing bass and kind of dancing around, and, when I watch them, my heart starts racing.

Usually my NRE-brain is not this bad anymore. I must be coming up on ovulation.

I just had to tell someone, and no one else is suitable, so this blog is the outlet.
 
While searching for something else in this blog, I stumbled upon two posts from nearly three years ago. One is me picking apart some feelings about jealousy and specialness, and the other is a letter to Rider relating to that. These were the parts that jumped out at me:

I had a feeling like what Rider and I have trumps everything—that it existed in a little bubble of privilege. And now that bubble has burst, and I am rocketing back toward the earth. THAT is where the adrenaline is coming from: I've been unwittingly skydiving from the heights of complacent love and security down into the reality that those things that lifted me there were not some special wings unfolded only for me, but "business as usual."

...

When I consider this—the importance I've placed on things being "ours"—I wonder why.

...

The other aspect of this whole thing—the overwhelming desire to be "special"—well, it just sounds so utterly childish when I type it out that way. But as I try to pick it apart and consider it, it's too easy for the pendulum to swing all the way in the opposite direction to nihilism: no one is special and nothing has meaning...

I don’t know what I am going to do as a result of it. Probably absolutely nothing, for the time being.

As I have tried to explain, the thing that I feel is like a child who has just discovered the non-existence of Santa Claus. What I imagine it feels like to a former believer who has discovered the non-existence of god. Or what it must feel like to be ignorant of science, therefore holding a belief that mankind is important, then discovering the scale of the universe and our own insignificance.

And, of course, I am better off for this knowledge, as in all of the above cases.

Love is not really magic. It is never fated, nor promised continuance. The relationship that I happen to be in at any given time (or my favored one, if I am in multiple) comes with no special privilege just by virtue of being mine, no matter how convincing life may be in its laying of trappings suggesting that I am the star of my own story. Love is a cocktail of chemical impulses that weave themselves into a narrative that our culture constructs for us, which our upbringing then hones. We translate this narrative into our own set of habits based on what we enjoy and what has worked for us before in our efforts to secure partners. Love is a science.

And just like a science, it doesn’t bend to the whims and wishes of those who would experiment with it. It is what it is. Whatever that is.

I think I have been guilty of too much magical thinking, even as I told myself all along that magical thinking is bullshit. And yet it is something that I have always done.

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I’ve always told you that love is what I do. It’s what I’m good at. I pour myself over people like so much warm honey and start reaching toward the point where we can construct a magic cloud-castle built of shared plans, goals, hopes, dreams. I make the dreaming delicious. Even as a poly person, I’ve always wanted more than anything to find one more-than-everything-else: someone who found me special enough to build along with me—someone who would share everything with me, and I with them, and we’d stand back-to-back against the world, letting no one else all the way in.

And I’d build a mythology; love is my religion: this is the sacred hallowed ground where we first kissed—my foot can never step there with another’s. These are the magic words that I’ll never say to another—they cast a spell that keeps us together and protected from all the bad in the world. These are the tiny rituals that we complete, acts of love and service and soul-cement that keep the bricks of our cloud fortress strong. And inside of it we dwell, two-nearly-as-one. Others can visit, but no one knows our spells and codes, so no one can unravel us.

But life doesn’t work that way. In poly, those hallowed grounds consecrated by one kiss work just as easily to enchant another. Magic words and names are simple nouns and verbs, put as well to the purpose of comforting, seducing, placating, pleasing another as well as they work on each other. The rituals we create based on activities, places, songs—these can cement other walls built on other hills, suburban cottages on culs-de-sac that are shaped the same and have the same black driveways, even if they are painted a different color. Call this one terracotta. A terracotta cottage, shaped just like all the others. No Victorian cloud fortress, no castle, no turrets. It’s a different kind of boring than monogamy, but it’s still boring....it’s a rude awakening to find it impossible to stand out.

It’s not even just that poly sucks. All poly does is make it easier to see. Poly sucks, because nothing is sacred and who wants to have the same-looking bungalow as everyone else in the neighborhood? The cloud castle becomes far less beautiful when the architect puts ten of them on the same block—it’s a caricature of a dream house. But monogamy sucks too, probably more, because humans are not naturally monogamous, and trading your own freedom for control of someone else is a load of horseshit. To breed resentment and over-comfort within the stale confines of only two seems doomed from the start. The cloud castle becomes the cloud prison. And then, needless to say, loneliness and celibacy suck.

So basically, all the permutations of ways of living kind of suck, and romance and magic are dead. Yes, shocking that I am just now figuring this out. Choosing poly is choosing the lesser of the evils, but the knowledge of the suck-itude is going to take some getting used to. I feel like I am teetering between throwing a crying titty-baby tantrum about the whole thing, or going totally the other way and turning into a bitter cynic. How to strike a balance between the tender and the tough that leaves me still adult, but still human?

...

The good news, at least, is that the jealousy is gone. I am pining over the loss of my innocence and the death of romance, but I no longer give a rat’s ass about the particulars of who does what with whom. About that, I have near-total peace. Everyone should do exactly what makes them happy, because they are the only person who can make them happy. If you’re happy, then I’m happy that you’re happy, because I love you, and I’m glad you’ve found that for yourself.

Me, I’m not sure what will make me happy. For too long, too much of it was staked on my erroneous notions of love. Now I have to figure the rest of it out. Love, those sweet chemical sensations of bliss, might factor into it, but can no longer be the largest component. I was once “made of love.” Now I’m made chiefly of confusion and pensiveness.

Holy shit, if that is not much of the exact same shit that Dustin struggles with. I almost feel like I should show him those excerpts, so that he knows that I walked that section of road too, and he is not alone.

I also feel a measure of sadness when I read them, because it sounds like I had introspected and found some very specific ideas about what I had wanted out of partnership, but I was very determined to poly and to have Rider, so it sounds like I kind of whipped those things out of myself at the risk of ending up bitter.
 
Things between me and Rider are still pretty good right now. Last night we still mostly steered away from processing, though we did have a little "thing" where he was upset over poly TV things.

He'd known before (and been OK with it) that I was watching the same show with him and Dustin. I wasn't going to make either of them watch it alone, and I know they both like it, so I was just watching it with both of them.

But last night I told him that I'd finished it with Dustin, in the context of "I just started watching [other show]" and Rider asked I'd finished the first show, and I said yes. Then he got upset that it hadn't been him that I finished it with.

I was confused why he'd be upset because I was still planning on finishing it with him, too—why does my inner experience (watching it for the second time) affect his inner experience? I would never spoil it for him. I could understand if I'd watched it with someone else and it made me not want to waste time by watching it again, but I'd really rather do everything twice than have to make one of them go without. And it seems odd to hold back the pace with one so that the other can be on the same episode or whatever.

I guess this might fall into what Autumn was saying, about details making Rider uncomfortable? Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the TV stuff?

It's just . . . if I can't talk about what I've been doing, watching, etc. when I'm not with Rider, and that's nearly half the time, what do I talk about?

Ha, that makes me feel really boring, actually. That I'm sitting here trying to brainstorm alternative topics to talk about, because I'm already trying not to talk about processing things or Dustin with Rider, and if I also am not going to talk about things I've done that Dustin happens to have been present for, then I am finding myself at a loss.

I guess current events? Thoughts about what I've just done or am planning on doing with Rider? The cats? Pick a random topic and just go with it?

I'm soooo not good at inhibiting the natural flow of my train of thought when I'm interacting with people I'm close to! God, I suck at this hinging thing.
 
I'm soooo not good at inhibiting the natural flow of my train of thought when I'm interacting with people I'm close to! God, I suck at this hinging thing.

I've never hinged like you are now, the closest I came was having two long distance partners and the greatest difficulty I faced there was trying to schedule plans, in particular because one of them was slightly unreliable but all that said I would say you're not sucking at it, that you're doing the best you can to be a good partner to both of them while also following your own heart and trying to figure out what you want for your near term future. I imagine it feels like you're sucking at it because both of them are struggling with it in their own ways and you feel empathy for both of them. However I don't think they're struggling because you're doing something wrong but rather because they both want something from you that they can't have. From what you write, you're handling it ethically by living up to the agreements you've made with both of them as well as trying to be as kind and understanding of their struggles as possible. It's a tough situation no matter how you stack and you're doing the best you can.

What to share though? I've been in Rider's place on the V the first time Lemon had a partner she was that smitten with. When I was, I felt an intense sense displacement, fear, and confusion over the situation. Like Rider, I had all sorts of unexpected and unpleasant reactions to any number of things similar to his reaction about the show. What made the situation worse from my perspective is part of me wanted to know because I really want to know what's going on in her life yet at the same time, I was having mini-meltdowns and at times it felt like we were endlessly processing rather than having quality time which can really strain any relationship. What I finally had to do was decide that since it was causing near constant low level anxiety for me is to either remove myself from the situation or face all the fears and icky feelings that were driving these reactions. I'm a big believer in the idea that people feel what they're going to feel and we shouldn't invalidate ourselves by saying "you agreed to this so you should feel this way" however at the same time when something I feel is consistently leaving me feeling icky or having a continued negative impact on my life or well-being I start to examine it and ask why it's bothering me so much. In particular I really like to examine things that I'm fearful of because I spent the first 30 years of my life making far too many decisions from a place of fear and while I believe there is healthy fear, there's also unhealthy fear.

I guess my point is that if he were my friend coming to me about this situation I'd be supportive because it's definitely not an easy place to be- he's not new to non-monogamy but I think this is a new relationship dynamic for him so it's expected that he might be dealing with a lot of new and confusing emotions right now however I'd also ask him something along the lines of what you said- "How does knowing she watched it with Dustin impact your experience of it and why?" I get it when people don't want to know the most intimate details of their partner's time with metamours or if they went in to it with a "I don't really want to hear anything about it" kind of understanding but it seems to me that the two of you have typically shared this type of information so maybe it's time for him to examine why it's so hard for him to hear it now.
 
I do not share a lot of details with either of my husbands about what I do with the other. It helps save hurt feelings.

For example I went to a really cool work event with Butch that Murf wanted to go to but couldn't due to work. He knew I went and I am sure he knew Butch went with. But I did not mention Butch. And vice versa.. Two weeks ago I went to a book signing my one of my favorite singers. Butch knows I went to NJ and got my book signed. He knows it was my weekend with Murf but I didn't share any details that meantioned him.

Frankly neither of them want to hear about what the other is up to.
 
I'm soooo not good at inhibiting the natural flow of my train of thought when I'm interacting with people I'm close to! God, I suck at this hinging thing.

Honestly I think that inhibiting yourself like that is too big of an ask from either of them, especially given you spend most of your time with one or the other of them. I agree with Refusnik that this is more a "them" problem or at least a "the combination of your personality and their desires" problem, than a "you suck" thing.
 
Honestly I think that inhibiting yourself like that is too big of an ask from either of them, especially given you spend most of your time with one or the other of them. I agree with Refusnik that this is more a "them" problem or at least a "the combination of your personality and their desires" problem, than a "you suck" thing.

I agree. There are people who are fine with doing this and don't find it difficult, but with your personality I can see how it's challenging. It would be for me too!
 
I'd also ask him something along the lines of what you said- "How does knowing she watched it with Dustin impact your experience of it and why?" I get it when people don't want to know the most intimate details of their partner's time with metamours or if they went in to it with a "I don't really want to hear anything about it" kind of understanding but it seems to me that the two of you have typically shared this type of information so maybe it's time for him to examine why it's so hard for him to hear it now.

Yeah, that's the part that really confuses me. It's less that he doesn't want to know, I think, and more that he doesn't want me to have finished the show with Dustin in the first place. He said it's "lame" and it would be "cool if we could have finished it together." He seemed to think it didn't count that we actually were finishing it together. And that's where the whole thing about "why does my internal experience matter?" comes in.

For example I went to a really cool work event with Butch that Murf wanted to go to but couldn't due to work. He knew I went and I am sure he knew Butch went with. But I did not mention Butch. And vice versa.. Two weeks ago I went to a book signing my one of my favorite singers. Butch knows I went to NJ and got my book signed. He knows it was my weekend with Murf but I didn't share any details that mentioned him.

In this case, I hadn't specifically mentioned Dustin, just "I've started watching [other show]"; I actually did specifically leave Dustin's name out of it. But, as with your case, he just knew anyway (I never watch stuff alone—I'm not a solo TV person, and he knows it), and then he confirmed it by asking.

Honestly I think that inhibiting yourself like that is too big of an ask from either of them, especially given you spend most of your time with one or the other of them. I agree with Refusnik that this is more a "them" problem or at least a "the combination of your personality and their desires" problem, than a "you suck" thing.

I agree. There are people who are fine with doing this and don't find it difficult, but with your personality I can see how it's challenging. It would be for me too!

Well, neither of them has asked me not to tell them that stuff. I was more referring to Autumn's suggestion here that leaving details out might be better. And, indeed, when I keep my mouth shut, things seem to move along more peaceably on all fronts. Except, y'know, inside of me, where I am feeling bottled up and like I can't find anything to talk about.

But, yeah, it's less them asking (or their desires), and more my stabbing around for solutions to the "constantly processing" issue.

keep mouth shut = less processing, outward peace, inner frustration
tell stuff = more processing and fighting, more natural communication state

It's a trade-off, and I feel like either way could eventually have back-breaking straws. I can easily see a situation where I feel alienated and disconnected from one or both of them from not sharing my life and my true self with them. And I can equally easily see a situation where one or both of them tires of ongoing reminders that all the time I'm not with them, I'm with someone else, and gets jealousy/displacement overload and splits.

What's even worse, which I haven't mentioned here yet, is that . . . OK, so I mentioned a while back that I would put my pictures of Rider in a special album in Facebook that Dustin and his friends couldn't see, so that Dustin didn't get his mood randomly destroyed when we weren't together by a photo popping up out of the blue, and so his friends would leave off teasing him relentlessly. So I've been doing that, just kind of in the background—it's become habit.

But the other day, Dustin and I were talking about social media, and I said I'm kind of burned out on it and mostly only use Facebook as a photo scrapbook anymore. And he said, "I've noticed that your page is mostly photos of me and stuff we've done. I like that."

And the inside of my brain just went, "OH SHIT, am I being ethical here?" Because now that I knew that he was placing a value judgment on the contents of my page and had dubbed them as "likeable," I felt like I was committing lies of omission rather than trying not to randomly upset him out of the blue.

I still don't know what to do about that. At the time, I just kept quiet. But I still feel dishonest about it now. I feel like I'm in that gray area of "maybe if he saw my other posts, he'd be less happy overall, so am I being unethical by artificially boosting his happiness and possibly keeping him around when he'd otherwise not be?" But I also feel like . . . choosing who sees what on social media is one's own business? And I also feel like . . . getting myself in a tizzy over social media in the first place is silly AF. I dunno.

I really don't think I like hinging. But here I am, with two partners I love.
 
If Rider is asking you for details and things, and then getting jealous about them, that's more of a him thing. I'm recently rereading the jealousy chapter in More Than Two and it really goes into a lot of that "first dibs" kind of stuff. Maybe that would be helpful for him/Dustin/you to read right now?

Him being jealous despite that you're still watching the show with him? That's his shit. If you have reassured him that your experience watching the show with him is still meaningful to you because you're watching it WITH HIM, you're doing your part. He has to do his work, too. Seeking out things to get upset over helps no one.

Look, they have to be willing to meet you half way. Not even I was saying 100% compartmentalize your life. Just spend more time being present with each of them and less time talking about what you did with the other or what you're going to do with the other.

If you really have nothing else to talk about with Rider... are you sure you aren't just giving him cucumbers? Do you have no future plans with him to get excited about? Future life stuff? Why does it just have to be work and the cats? Maybe here's your sign that you actually have to work to keep the shine on a relationship because the NRE has faded, and now you're married and living together and those endorphins aren't just making themselves anymore.

But that's true of any relationship. It will be true of your relationship with Dustin in 2 years or whenever the New Shininess wears off.

As for Dustin, why can't you just tell him that you have a separate space for your Rider stuff based on that conversation you had with him? And that, yes, you've been having a lot of fun with him lately? If he attached some value to fun being exclusive to him or something, again, that's his shit, not your shit.

He's had time to get used to being poly. If he's still pretending that you are not actually poly, if he's hanging on and taking hope from "you don't have any fun with Rider (maybe that relationship will fall apart)," and attaching positive value there... that's not a good sign.

It does get better as people settle in and there is the time there that backs up the words "you are (still/also) important to me." Provided that everyone involved is doing their own work and actually wanting it to get better, and not just that you're trying to do everyone's work for them. Maybe it's time for a polycule meeting with all three of you, where you tell them how stressed out all of this has been making you, and hash out some solutions that all three of you can agree on.

Meanwhile, I'm sorry you feel like you're falling from one crisis to the other. I hope you're still getting the sleep and you-time that you need!
 
If Rider is asking you for details and things, and then getting jealous about them, that's more of a him thing. I'm recently rereading the jealousy chapter in More Than Two and it really goes into a lot of that "first dibs" kind of stuff. Maybe that would be helpful for him/Dustin/you to read right now?

I definitely should have Rider take a peek at it. He was supposed to be still reading that book, but he hasn't mentioned it in a while. I'll check in with him on it.

If you really have nothing else to talk about with Rider... are you sure you aren't just giving him cucumbers? Do you have no future plans with him to get excited about? Future life stuff? Why does it just have to be work and the cats? Maybe here's your sign that you actually have to work to keep the shine on a relationship because the NRE has faded, and now you're married and living together and those endorphins aren't just making themselves anymore.

Cucumbers? I don't think I know that idiom . . .

It's not just work and the cats, really. We do still talk about music and some plans and our mutual friends and what's going on in his poly life. When I said this: "I guess current events? Thoughts about what I've just done or am planning on doing with Rider? The cats? Pick a random topic and just go with it?" . . . that was me brainstorming some additional stuff to talk about, because I do still feel at a loss sometimes. The purpose of the brainstorming was to try to have something go-to for those moments. It is super weird having awkward silences around someone I've known for so long though, when we used to fill every moment with chatter.

Also, part of the issue is that we both feel a little insecure about the long-term future now, so bringing up anything like that has potential to devolve into processing time.

As for Dustin, why can't you just tell him that you have a separate space for your Rider stuff based on that conversation you had with him? And that, yes, you've been having a lot of fun with him lately? If he attached some value to fun being exclusive to him or something, again, that's his shit, not your shit.

He's had time to get used to being poly. If he's still pretending that you are not actually poly, if he's hanging on and taking hope from "you don't have any fun with Rider (maybe that relationship will fall apart)," and attaching positive value there... that's not a good sign.

I actually don't know if that's what he meant by "I like that"—whether he meant it in that way or not. I feel weird about going back to discuss that one kinda in-passing conversation and making a big deal about it. Maybe if it comes up again . . . I dunno. I feel cowardly about talking about it right now since I don't know exactly what to say.

Maybe it's time for a polycule meeting with all three of you, where you tell them how stressed out all of this has been making you, and hash out some solutions that all three of you can agree on.

This . . . seems unlikely. They will coexist in shared space for something like a party when it seems necessary, but I think that sitting down for A Talk would actually be counterproductive, with Dustin specifically. He's fine vaguely shooting the shit with Rider about music or whatever, but I think it'd be overly intense polying for him at this point to have a polycule Relationship Talk. He'll be vulnerable and honest with me, because he trusts me, but I don't think he could come to a relationship talk from that same place with someone else present, at least not yet.

Meanwhile, I'm sorry you feel like you're falling from one crisis to the other. I hope you're still getting the sleep and you-time that you need!

I've been a lot better about the sleep, for sure! The me-time . . . still working on that one. Feeling less stressed about it with more sleep and less active conflict though. Also, this TV thing was (thankfully) definitely NOT a crisis. It was just a little snag in an otherwise lovely evening, and we're getting along just fine since then. :)
 
Last night with Dustin was pretty good. We made some plans that revolved around popping in to see Ayuki at her body-painting thing. It was from 8–10, and I got out of work around 5:30, so we came up with some other stuff to do in between.

He picked me up and we went to happy hour at a place neither of us had been, which is near the store where Percy works (and he wanted to stop by that store after). I was not particularly impressed with the place, but the company was nice. We cuddled and made out a lot, and we had a bit of serious-ish conversation about how he still finds it hard to trust that I love him when we're not in each other's presence.

It's so hard for him to imagine that I can still hold that brilliant love for him in my heart when I'm with Rider. I told him that I actually think the opposite is more difficult to conceive: how likely does it seem that something so strong and intense would vanish so easily, then come back so easily, then vanish so easily again? That actually seemed to make sense to him, and he looked thoughtful and maybe a little relieved.

The other thing he talked about with me was his substance struggles. He said that he had a dark week with that stuff, and the night before, he'd actually ended up getting too messed up to drive, puking into a plastic bag, and sleeping in his car till 4:30 a.m. I'd talked to him on the phone around 11:30, and he'd seemed fine and said he was about to go home. But then Percy twisted his arm into going to one more bar, and they'd gotten into a shuffleboard competition with a couple other dudes, and he'd ended up getting a lot drunker. And then someone had offered him a hit of pot, and since he hadn't eaten and was already drunk, it gave him the spins. So he had to hide out in his car till he felt better.

He was disappointed in himself and was talking about how he is too susceptible to peer pressure and falling in with what the people around him are doing, especially when I'm not around for him to focus on. He said when he's out at the honky-tonk or hanging with Pete, he ends up doing coke when he doesn't really want to. And when he's hanging out with Percy, Percy ends up "just one more!"-ing him to the point where he ends up drinking more than he wants to.

I've seen it in action, too. I've seen Percy try to basically beg Dustin (or the both of us) to go out drinking, or to keep drinking, merely because Percy doesn't want to drink alone. I've seen Dustin's bandmates give him hell for being "domesticated" now because he turns down coke more often now that he's with me. They have other friends who are sober, and they don't seem to rag on those guys as much, so I don't know why Dustin gets it especially bad from them. Maybe I'll ask him.

After we left the bar, we went to Percy's store. It's an outdoors store. Dustin wanted to buy a new jacket, and I wanted to look at the camping gear. I learned some cool things about tents, and Dustin ended up splurging on a fancy jacket, a new pair of hiking pants, and some nice socks. He also bought me an expensive jacket that I tried to talk him out of but he insisted, saying it could be an early xmas gift.

Then we went to Ayuki's event. It was kind of weird there, and we didn't stick around long. She was getting body-painted, but it was a family-friendly location, so they were painting over a bra and panties. She was happy to see us. There were two chicks there that I hadn't met before. One was very outgoing and said she'd heard a lot about me. The other wouldn't look me in the eye at all, so I thought she didn't like me. When we were alone, Dustin told me that the outgoing one was kind of a conniving bitch and to watch out for her. He said that the other one was actually really sweet, and maybe wouldn't look at me because she's a little weird and shy. Well, that I can certainly understand!

After that event, we just headed home. I started to make dinner, but we ended up all over each other and had to divert to the bedroom first. We started off fucking standing up face-to-face (my request, as we hadn't done it in a while), then dropped to our knees, still face-to-face, then I was on top of him on the floor and then he was on top of me in the bed and then I lost track because we rolled around so much. My god, it was amazing. Fucking everything about sex with him is perfect these days. We both totally have the hang of each other's bodies and rhythms.

When we were done, I finished dinner (tacos out of our leftover nacho supplies) and we drank some wine and watched some TV. We traded foot rubs when we were done with food. Then we went to bed to get some reading done. I got only about a chapter in before I was falling asleep. Dustin stayed up reading a bit longer. Today he sent me pictures he'd taken of me sleeping on his shoulder, while he read (in one photo) and kissed my cheek (in another photo). So sweet!

I slept really well and woke up chipper. We made out a little in the morning, but there was no time for sex before he had to drop me back off at work.

Tonight, I hang with Rider. We have plans to do happy hour at our favorite retro bar, and then we have Indian leftovers to eat for dinner. I'm not sure what else we'll do, but I'm looking forward to relaxing and reconnecting with him. He leaves tomorrow evening, and I won't see him till Tuesday. For some reason I thought it was Wednesday, but I looked at it again and it's actually Tuesday night.

Random collection of other facts:

1. Apparently Annie and her partner are visiting the city where Reina and Ramsey live, and they actually know them! Odd coincidence that Rider should be dating someone here who knows his old friends that live in an entirely different city.

2. Rider has told me that he hasn't yet decided on sex things with Annie. He's still considering. He does want to keep seeing her, though.

3. Rider also told me that Annie has two kids, and that he's dated women with kids before. He said that "at his age he just has to accept that a lot of potential partners have them." I felt . . . very strange about this, given his whole stance on what if I decide I want to have a kid.

On the one hand, I get it that I'm his wife and nesting partner and the person he's trying to build a life with, so it's not like I could do that without affecting him to a much larger degree than would the kids of someone he's more casually dating. And that's not even factoring in that it's a change-of-heart thing that he wasn't expecting. On the other hand, he's recently made it sound like he might not want to be in my life at all if that happens, which, it makes me sad that I wouldn't have that more casual or even possibly friendship option open to me if I go that way.

Like, he's told me in the past that he prefers to stay close friends with exes when possible, and he's telling me now that he's not opposed to dating people who have kids, but I guess if I make that decision for myself, I might be an exception to both of those things. I do get it—that the situation is brutal, and that's the difference—but I wish there were something I could do to make it different. I wish there were some way that the option of just transitioning stuff to a different level were possible. But it doesn't sound like it is, so that's gotta be a factor I take into consideration when making my decision.

4. I asked Rider who among his new friends was a possible interest, and he said he didn't even know. When I asked him how that could be the case, he said that he's met so many cool people at poly things lately and has been attracted to some degree or another to nearly all of them except for a handful of the guys, and most of them are some kind of bi- or pansexual, so almost anyone is a prospect. He said that he isn't pursuing anyone in particular, but if nearly any of them expressed interest in him, he'd likely see where it went.

That is soooo different from my experience of attraction and life in general. But I'm happy for him that he's meeting so many cool new people. With him getting so immersed in poly circles, and with it being such a big city, I've found myself wondering if any of the people he's met read here. How odd would that be for everyone involved?

5. Dustin went hiking while I'm at work again today, and I'm super happy for him but super envious. He said we can go this weekend, though!

6. The situation with Oona and Toby is getting dire. He's been out of work for long enough now that he's wrecked his credit by missing payments on stuff, and he's finally reached a point where in another month or two he's not even going to be able to make his half of rent. Oona cannot afford to pay his half, and they're stuck in a lease till May. They may have to break their lease, and he's been talking about moving back in with his parents a few states away. Oona said that if that happens, she'll probably have to break up with him because she can't see herself long-term with someone who has no kind of financial stability.

7. Work has been crazy hell for me this week.
 
You can't blame Dustin's substance use issues on "peer pressure." You seem to still be viewing him through an NRE induced fog.

Those were actually his words and "blame," not mine. I described how I've seen some of what he was talking about, and I really have watched that dynamic in play of his friends trying to get him to make poor choices, but I do know that at the end of the day, he's an adult and the final decision is his.
 
Thursday night with Rider was good. We had fun at the retro bar. I got a little overly drunk. Rider got more specific with me about his friends that might actually be interests, and it sounds like there are 4 or 5 of them. We played some music when we got back to the house, and we had some sexytime before bed.

Friday, I did a whirlwind cleaning of the apartment before Dustin came over. He arrived and we went to the store to get stuff for dinner and for the next morning's breakfast. I cooked and we had dinner and drinks and watched some TV. There was, of course, the usual fantastic sex as well.

Saturday, Dustin and I slept in late, had half-asleep sex, and then I cooked breakfast. We went hiking at a place not too far from my apartment. I had no idea that park existed, but Dustin used to live nearby waaaaay back in the day. He showed me his old apartment buildings too. Then we went shopping for dinner and to the wine store.

After dinner, I put a new pocket in Pete's jacket, as I had promised to do at the beginning of the week. Then Dustin wanted to go to an art show. The gallery was run by an ex of Derek's, and one of the painters was that chick's mom. Dustin told me that he and Derek used to date best friends over a decade ago, and so he'd been pretty close to the chick because she was both his brother's girlfriend and his girlfriend's bestie. I met her, and she seemed nice. She was carrying around a really cute kitten that she'd just found behind the gallery. We didn't stay long.

After that, we just went home and had dessert and watched more stuff and had more sex. Dustin said that sex was the best he'd ever had. It was really good for me, too. We read books before bed.

Yesterday we woke up really late again. More sex. Breakfast again. Sunset at a hilltop park, then wandering around an interesting kitsch/tchotchke shop. Then we had dinner and traded massages before Dustin had to go play the honky-tonk. I had decided to go with him, since I do that about once every month or so. I shot some video. It was fun.

When we got back home, we sat on the floor for a while, playing with my rabbits. Dustin had squatted down to pet my lionhead and, when I tried to instruct him the proper way to do it, he said he used to have a rabbit hutch growing up (just like I did), so he knows. He noticed how jumpy she was and asked me how often I handle her. I guiltily admitted not enough. Ugh. I'm a bad bunny-mom sometimes. I'm so busy. We played with them and gave them some arugula, which somewhat assuaged my guilt.

Today I fly back East to see my family. I'm taking the red-eye but I still have to do a pretty quick turnaround to get all the stuff I need to do done—packing, switching the sheets so Rider comes home to clean ones, etc. I'm not looking forward to all that stuff.

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I'm not in the greatest headspace today because of something that Dustin and I talked about over the weekend. He said he thinks he wants to take most of our travel time over the next few weeks as "a break." He wants to still call me on Thanksgiving, and he still wants me to drive up to see him and meet his family on Saturday, but he wants to go no contact Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, and then the duration of his family trip to the Caribbean that he's going on from 12/3–12/8.

He said that it is torturous for him to be apart from me, and he's realized that calls and texts don't really help, so he wants to try the opposite—maybe if he takes some space from talking to me, it'll both make our time apart more bearable and also help him work through some feelings about the whole situation.

He said that he loves me more and more each day, and the more that he loves me, the harder it gets for him to "share" me. He said he doesn't blame me, because I've done nothing wrong, and it's true that he knew the situation going in. He'd been hopeful that he could make it work for him, but he's still not sure that he can, and he thinks that taking some space to think about it without being directly under the influence of my communication would be helpful to him.

I am obviously not happy about this, though I intend to respect his boundaries. I feel that I am getting a very mixed message from his still wanting me to drive up and stay with him at his family's. Like, "Hey, come meet my fam but also maybe we should break up." :confused:

He did say that he doesn't want to break up with me—that he feels like we have something special together, and it's unlike anything he's ever had with anyone. But the situation is starting to feel toxic to him. He said it's nothing that I'm doing, and it's probably all on his end. He just needs to do some soul-searching about whether or not he can keep it up, for how long, and (if he does decide he can't keep it up) whether he should try to ride it out till he can't take it anymore or cut it off as soon as he reaches that realization.

So I guess I wait, trying to make the most of it in the meantime while he figures his shit out.

And speaking of people who are trying to figure their shit out, I am at once excited to see my family and also a little nervous because I imagine that spending time around little kids is going to help aid me in my own decision on the kid thing. Since that has such a bearing on the future of my marriage (and by extension, the entire logistical side of my life), the idea of getting closer to a decision is somewhat nerve-racking, even though I obviously do need to make it, and relatively soon—within a matter of months.

On the Rider end of things, he's having fun in Florida. I think he still has vague plans to try to hook up with my old roommate, Anna, which I am still uncomfortable with but not going to try to stop him. I am even less comfortable with it now that I got the IM she sent me Saturday night after Dustin and I got back from our art show outing: "Are you and Rider still together? It doesn't look that way on social media, and it hasn't since before your birthday."

Like. WT-actual-F. She knows that it'd be common news and knowledge (not to mention acknowledged directly on social media by no longer listing him as my husband) if we broke up. I'm certain she was referring to the fact that I posted pics up that day of Dustin and I hiking and attending the art show. But it's not like there aren't pics of Rider up on my page, too. I've posted pics of Rider from Halloween, from Oona's party, from random nights out, etc. Not as many as I've posted of Dustin, because we haven't been on any trips lately and because I post pics of Dustin playing music, but whenever Rider is playing music, I'm playing too. But what a bitchy, passive aggressive thing to say! And sticking her nose right where it doesn't belong!

The fact that Rider wants to sleep with someone like that, who was also bitchy to me during much of our tenancy as roommates . . . it just rubs me the wrong way. But I know that it truly affects nothing in the big picture, so I'm trying not to focus on it.

So, yeah, I'm not on top of the world today.

I'm actually really nervous about the Dustin thing. I don't know what will happen if he breaks up with me. Even though he's been in my life for only about five months, I find it very hard to picture my life without him. He has changed me, changed my perspective on a bunch of things, and even changed my understanding of what is possible in relationships.

I started out thinking that there were a ton of things about him that were likely to be deal-breakers and impediments to anything serious: our opposite schedules, his texting habits, and his reputation as a bit of a dog and a playboy being chief among them. But, as it turns out, the first thing was totally surmountable, the second he was willing to change, and the third was rumor based on circumstance.

In the meantime, he has taught me so much about patience, sex, the importance of common ground, reserving judgment, interpersonal interactions, and a slew of other things. I feel like I've learned more from being with him about what I do want out of a relationship in the past six months than I've learned in the vast majority of my past relationships over a much longer time period.

And I don't know where else I'd find it all except for in the beautiful package that is Dustin. I feel like my life would be strangely hollow without him in it. I'd survive, sure. But I don't think it'd be as rich a life, and I don't mean in the monetary sense—I mean I don't think it would be as satisfying, as adventuresome, as sensual, as instructional. He's a one-of-a-kind treasure.

He asked me late Saturday night, in bed, after we'd already put our books down and turned the lights off and were just lying there holding each other:

"Do you know who you are and what you want?"

"I'm not even sure I understand the question," I replied, after a moment's hesitation.

"Who you are—do you feel comfortable in your own skin?" he clarified.

"Oh, that, absolutely," I said. And it is true. It maybe wasn't true even as recently as last December. I often felt to some degree like an empty vessel waiting to be filled by some greater purpose, a reactive chameleon that easily adapted to the desires of those around me. But over the past year, I've changed. I've better learned how to listen to myself, even if (out of bad habit) I don't always act on what I hear.

"And what you want—what does a Reverie want out of life?" he asked.

"That, I'm still figuring out," I replied. "To switch to a job that doesn't bore me. To learn more about plants. To do the things that make me happy: read, write, cook, learn, spend time outdoors. I'm trying to decide whether I want to have kids. All I really want is just to be happy—nothing fancy."

"Work is work," he said. "It's always going to be boring sometimes."

"Yeah, but I'm hoping to find something that I can listen to audiobooks when it bores me, haha. That way it doesn't feel like torture. What do you want?"

"It's still the same: a little plot of land where I can have a modest house and a garden. A couple of kids. Some animals . . . " he trailed off, like he was picturing it.

"Do you think you can make that happen?" I asked.

"Sure," he said. "Plenty of people dumber than me manage to figure that out. It's not like it's a big, extravagant dream. I'd have to make a lifestyle change. I've always thought it'd be fun to be a postman. I'm feeling kinda over playing music for money . . . again."

I pictured him in the postal service outfit and giggled because he already wears blue most of the time. And we both sighed and snuggled closer and fell asleep. But his questions have been rattling around in my brain. "Do you feel comfortable in your own skin?" Yes. "And what does a Reverie want out of life?" What, indeed?
 
That sounds tough, Reverie. *hugs* You have big decisions ahead of you. Best of luck trying to figure out what you want out of life!
 
I'm sitting at my sister's place drinking coffee. Between flying the red-eye and the three-hour time difference, plus still kinda not being used to the daylight savings change, my body has little to no idea what time it is.

I thought I'd sleep on the plane, and I did a little, but I spent most of the time messaging with Kelly or reading. The flight was without incident. I picked up the rental car, and dawn was cresting the horizon as I pulled into my sister's driveway. My mom is going through a separation right now and is living with her, and she came out with her dog to greet me.

I wasn't expecting my sister and nephew to be up yet, but they were. My mom had warned me that my nephew might be shy at first, since he hadn't seen me in a year, but he took to me immediately. I spent the first two hours of my day playing with him before sleepiness got the better of me.

I napped from like 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m., dreaming fitfully, mostly of Dustin. In one dream, he and I were staring up at the sky through a hole in a barn roof, watching the moon and the planets move. Suddenly, something was falling, falling, falling, closer and closer. It was an asteroid. It fell right through the hole in the roof and we barely rolled out of the way, but we did. It fell to the ground in a crash, and we were so happy to have escaped a terrible fate that we started making out furiously. When I woke, I instinctively wanted to text him about it, but I could not.

I don't know what I'd been expecting from the whole not talking to him thing, but it's been harder than I thought it would be. Instead of texting him, I've actually just been typing into my Notes app the things that I would say to him throughout the day. "You left a shirt in my room, so I packed it." "I found a foxtail from our hike embedded in my unicorn socks." "That book you recommended is really good so far." "I miss you."

But, fuck, it is really so much harder to miss a person because they don't want to talk to you than it is because they can't for some reason. After my nephew was down for a nap and my sister was busy cleaning, I spent an unreasonable amount of time just flicking through Dustin's Facebook pictures on my phone, looking through all the times we've had together, and then, further back, looking at times he had before he met me, my heart first warming and then breaking to recognize places, pieces of clothing, and expressions that I didn't know when I'd first looked through his Facebook months ago, but know so well now.

I am enjoying my time with my family, but I am definitely pining too.

Rider's flight will be touching down in about two hours, and I am going to go pick him up from the airport. My sister's place is only about 15 minutes from the airport. I think we're going to stop and have a meal and a beer on the way back.

He told me last night over IM while I was on the plane that he ended up making out with my old roommate, Anna, and rubbing her feet, but nothing else happened. It creeps me out to think of it, even still. I have serious squickies about it. I just feel like . . . it's hard for me to respect someone who knows how nuts she is and knows how she treated me and still wants to make out with or sleep with her. Maybe it shouldn't bother me, but it does.

To be clear, I don't have any problem with him doing whatever with any of the new people he's been seeing, nor with Allie (who he also saw while in Florida), and he even got some new chick's number while down there and tried to set up a coffee date with her (haven't heard if that happened or not), and if he'd made out with her, I wouldn't care. But it's Anna specifically that creeps me out, because of how she is and how she's treated me (and continues to treat me). He knows I feel weird about it, because I'm honest. And I guess he doesn't care enough to let it influence him. It makes me feel kinda gross and unimportant to him.

I'm a little nervous about how I'm going to feel when he gets here. I want to make sure he has a good, happy holiday, and I want to put him at ease with my family, but I just feel . . . weird . . . right now, about all of that. I feel like there will need to be some degree of processing at some point, just to make me feel normal again, which I hate the idea of doing over a family holiday, ugh.

Sooooo that's where I am right now with stuff. At least things with my family are good.
 
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