NRE and ERI

Kathrin

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Hello, I’m Kathrin, and now since round about 2 3/4 years, in a committed poly relationship. This time was really the best. It was lovely, exciting, cute and I learned so much about how to handle secure relationships. We had some small crushes and dates, but nothing serious.

Now I fell in love with a new person and suddenly I am completely freaking out. There is just this deep anxiety about how to handle both. This weekend I visited my partner and was completely anxious all the time. It felt like our connection was not as intense anymore. I felt myself longing for this new connection and the contrast drove me crazy.

I am doubting the relationship, even though I know this is a common thing to happen in poly relationships, but I can’t help myself. Suddenly I feel like I want all the freedom to explore this new connection, but I am anxious to lose the old one.

Be, my partner, seems quite chill about it. They just said that they are sure we will figure it out and I should take all the time to explore this connection. But this feels wrong. I’m feeling like I’m slowly losing this partner. I just want the old feeling of security and love back that I had for them, but it is either buried under this NRE or under my anxiety.

Does anyone know this struggle?
 
Hello Kathrin,

NRE always messes with your mind, you are losing NRE for your partner just as you are gaining NRE for the new connection, so the contrast is very stark. What you have to do is, in spite of your feelings, set aside time to spend with your partner and just go through the motions with them, until the NRE for the new connection dies down a little, and until you start to get used to the lower-key feelings you have for your partner. There are no easy answers here, NRE is hard to handle and you really have to be deliberate about it.

Sympathetically,
Kevin T.
 
Hi Kathrin, I think it's great that you're worrying about this because it means you're consciously trying to handle things correctly with two relationships and learning to be the "hinge" of a relationship V.

We hear from so many people who are the established partner and feel neglected (or downgraded, or in poly hell) when their partner experiences NRE. You are clearly trying to make sure you don't create that kind of situation.

But, it sounds like the problem is only in your head (or in your feelings) at this point. Your established partner is supportive and encouraging.

Maybe you can just feel your feelings for a bit? Enjoy the buzz of the new relationship. Keep nurturing your established relationship with date nights and quality time together. Maybe the anxiety will fade as you adjust to the new normal of having two partners.

And, lean into the ERI (established relationship intimacy). It's a real thing, and we tend not to talk about it as much as we talk about NRE. The term is a good one, in my option--it really is about the intimacy rather than the energy/excitement. Trust, comfort, connection, ease, familiarity. Warm and fuzzy instead of hot and buzzy. And it's SO great!

Ohhh, I just realized something. Your "established" relationship is actually still pretty new. Not at the 3-year mark yet. We say that NRE can typically last about 2 years, so maybe your established relationship is only recently transitioning from "new" to "established." In other words, maybe you haven't quite developed that ERI yet.

When I was with Eli, we were probably 7 years into our relationship before we started to say, "You know, I think we're having ERI!" It was kind of a surprise to us.

So, my advice would just be to give both your relationships time. Let the new one settle and find its rhythm as you explore it. Let the established one continue to grow (and make sure you keep nurturing it).

Unless there is a specific problem or issue that is making you feel anxious?
 
Hey Meera,

Thank you so much for your advice and your encouragement! It helps to understand that what I am experiencing with Be is probably the end of NRE and potentially the beginning of a new feeling. Right now I am just grieving about the end of this NRE with them, because it was just wonderful.

What I am worried about is that I have this really strong urge to be in my hometown the next weeks (Be lives in a different city) and explore not only this new connection, but also the friendships I have here. In 3 months I probably have to move to start my masters somewhere else. Potentially really far away. And I really wanted to spend this time connecting with Be (and of course my friends) and building a strong base for this long-distance relationship.

But now I am scared that when I really start connecting with this new person, my NRE will get even stronger and I will constantly feel torn between them. Somehow I also feel like my new crush is not the reason for this, but more the end of NRE with Be, which led me to being more autonomous and focused on other connections in general. This was a really nice feeling the last weeks, because I could trust in our relationship and my genuine feelings for Be.

Last weekend was really shocking, when I found myself somehow longing to be back in my town, and also thinking about the intensity with this new person. It felt like I had no access to the deep feelings for Be that always drew me back to them. And now I have to completely rely on my knowledge that those feelings are there somewhere and hopefully come back. This makes me extremely anxious. When I am at home, I am completely sure that Be is damn important for me, but being with them I was just searching for those feelings and got more and more anxious about it.

I think what might help is that we talk a lot a lot on the phone, and by doing this we keep the connection, even though I am not visiting them that often (or that long) anymore. But I also like your idea to set specific date times and really appreciate each other even more.

I think I am just really bad at losing control, and this often triggers both avoidance and anxiety at the same time. But is it normal to have more distant phases in a long-term relationship, as long as both are fine with this, or would you recommend really ignoring this urge and just try to keep our relationship as close as before?

What also plays into this is that Be and I had plans to go on holidays together the whole August, but I felt I could not do this this year, since this would be the last month in my hometown and I want to say goodbye to everyone. But I feel like this would have been the greatest opportunity to really secure our bond, and now I just feel so guilty.

Ah, and I think a huge part of my anxiety is also due to the crush. I am scared that my limited time resources will drive them away, or we won't be able to establish something stable until I leave for my masters. I think in theory both relationships could really thrive in this time, but in practise I am just so worried to make mistakes.

Thank you also sharing your ERI experience, I am really looking forward to have this with Be someday :)


Hi Kathrin, I think it's great that you're worrying about this because it means you're consciously trying to handle things correctly with two relationships and learning to be the "hinge" of a relationship V.

We hear from so many people who are the established partner and feel neglected (or downgraded, or in poly hell) when their partner experiences NRE. You are clearly trying to make sure you don't create that kind of situation.

But, it sounds like the problem is only in your head (or in your feelings) at this point. Your established partner is supportive and encouraging.

Maybe you can just feel your feelings for a bit? Enjoy the buzz of the new relationship. Keep nurturing your established relationship with date nights and quality time together. Maybe the anxiety will fade as you adjust to the new normal of having two partners.

And, lean into the ERI (established relationship intimacy). It's a real thing, and we tend not to talk about it as much as we talk about NRE. The term is a good one, in my option--it really is about the intimacy rather than the energy/excitement. Trust, comfort, connection, ease, familiarity. Warm and fuzzy instead of hot and buzzy. And it's SO great!

Ohhh, I just realized something. Your "established" relationship is actually still pretty new. Not at the 3-year mark yet. We say that NRE can typically last about 2 years, so maybe your established relationship is only recently transitioning from "new" to "established." In other words, maybe you haven't quite developed that ERI yet.

When I was with Eli, we were probably 7 years into our relationship before we started to say, "You know, I think we're having ERI!" It was kind of a surprise to us.

So, my advice would just be to give both your relationships time. Let the new one settle and find its rhythm as you explore it. Let the established one continue to grow (and make sure you keep nurturing it).

Unless there is a specific problem or issue that is making you feel anxious?
 
You will figure this out. You'll just be all distracted for a few months, so you will have to mindfully return your attention to your older partner during your focused couple time. Don't overstretch, if you need to take a few minutes out of your day to text your new love, your partner can probably handle that, as long as you're also able to put your phone away.
It does happen sometimes that people fall out of love with their original partners while in NRE, but in your case, because you care, I bet it's the anxiety covering your loving affection. Make time for selfcare, relaxation, daydreaming.
 
So its been some days now… :) I am not sure if it got better or worse - I am definitely not in the complete limerence state anymore i was two weeks ago and am able to see the new person as a normal human being, which is sweet and also allows me to shift my focus a little bit back on other things. The last three days I was with my established partner on a bike tour and felt somehow really connected and also really disconnected to them. Be communicated very often and very sweet that they are still really excited about me and really in love with me, but I could just feel more friendshippy feelings. I also felt this longing to be back in my hometown and see my friends and the new person and be back in my usual rythm, but this felt so wrong. Be was alsways the point of my longing and I always wanted to spend as much time as possible with them, but 2-3 months ago this changed. I feel like I am missing something in this relationship? I am starting to see more and more the differences and somehow also really got used to Be. It really scares me that I cant feel the same intensity of love to them as they seem to feel right now. We are both busy the next weeks and also agreed that we probably wont see each other that much but that we feel really safe in our connection. But I cant really relax, I really feel like I should first fix my feelings towards Be before deepen my connection with the new person I am seeing? But I also somehow hope that the NRE will get less once I get used to the new person? Maybe I should say that the relationship with Be is the longest I have ever been in (2 3/4 years) and I dont really know this stage of a romantic relationship (means end of NRE). Can you recommend some strategies to really keep the love and affection active in this established relationship?
 
I dunno. Maybe it's not a NRE effect and you have fallen out of love with him. I remember with my first boyfriend, we've been together for 4+ years. I was young and sometimes I had doubts, but mostly happy and connected. Then he moved further away. Suddenly it felt like too much work to go over an hour to see him. I realized I was out of love and broke up with him (only to be insanely in love two weeks later with a person I had been communicating online with - maybe it did have something to do with the breakup, but I sure as hell didn't realize). It was confusing, because there was no reason for the breakup. We didn't fight, he was not bad to me. I was just a bit bored and gradually stopped feeling it.
Maybe your falling in love wasn't a symptom of you being polyamorous, but of a fading connection. I know you want to be "ethical" and do "good polyamory", but if you find yourself focused on new friends and a new life it's not terrible to break up a relationship with no commitments that has gone long distance.
 
But maybe it is possible to fall back in love with the same person and learn how to love them deeply again? I really dont want to end this relationship, and it is really important for me. The feelings just dont match right now, but I would like also to put some work in to change this again.
 
But maybe it is possible to fall back in love with the same person and learn how to love them deeply again? I really dont want to end this relationship, and it is really important for me. The feelings just dont match right now, but I would like also to put some work in to change this again.
Maybe.
When I don't feel love for my partner, there's usually two or three things going on
1) some long-standing conflict or neglected need that failed to be communicated or still isn't resolved - there's a fight hanging in the air and it needs to get worse before it gets better;
2) overall stress, illness and depression that's just taxing
3) an absence of newness and/or pleasant activities that brought us together, no regular dates, nothing to look forward to, no out-of-the ordinary experience

[1b) a lack of shared goals or mismatch in future goals and lifestyle expectations falls roughly into the first cathegory too]
[3b) it could also contribute one of us is lacking on newness and personal devolopment, just stuck in joyless routine and stalling for a long time, but that's clearly not your case]
 
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