Am I in the right place?

OldPod

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Hi. OldPod here.

Not sure that polyamory is appropriate for my situation and would like your thoughts.

My wife of 49 years and I find that mutual activities, thoughts and affections no longer exist in our retirement. (If you can call my working nearly 40 hours a week "retirement").

So I am looking to share activities, thoughts and affection with more than one woman (which I assume will help me avoid the jealousy I experienced when focused on one girl / woman in my dating days -- long ago.)

But before I talk this over with my wife, who I suspect would be all for it (for me), I want to make sure that polyamory is appropriate for those who are not so much interested in augmenting a marital relationship as it is providing aspects that doesn't exist in that marriage.

So, am I in the right place?

Regards,

OldPod
 
Actually, you will find plenty of support for using polyamory for your own personal benefit, and not to "enhance" your marriage. Using a new gf as nothing more than a sex toy to spice up things with the wife is very disrespectful to the new person.

However, if you do find a new gf and fall in love, what will become of your marriage? You say there isn't much left there... no shared activities, thoughts, "affection" (sex or cuddles or terms of endearment etc?).

You will probably drift even further apart if you meet a new and shiny woman. New relationship energy (NRE), infatuation, can become very addictive and obsessive. Other things, people, seem to fade into the wallpaper.

Are you prepared for that? Most people who are successful at poly, if coupled already, find they want to maintain a good strong r'ship with the spouse as well. You don't seem interested in that.

Will your new gf become one of your social circle? Or kept in the closet?
 
Thank you, Magdlyn, for your terrific and insightful comments.
Using a new gf as nothing more than a sex toy to spice up things with the wife is very disrespectful to the new person.
That's certainly how I'd feel if the situation were reversed. And sex is not my main motivation.
However, if you do find a new gf and fall in love, what will become of your marriage? ...
Are you prepared for that? Most people who are successful at poly, if coupled already, find they want to maintain a good strong r'ship with the spouse as well. You don't seem interested in that.
I can't imagine re-marrying and divorce is expensive and complicated. But, we'd face that when and if it happened.
Will your new gf become one of your social circle? Or kept in the closet?
NO SECRETS. At least to the wife. She and I would decide what is best for the adult children and they for our grandchildren.

As far as the my social circle, I'm looking at polyamory to build a new one.
 
So I am looking to share activities, thoughts and affection with more than one woman (which I assume will help me avoid the jealousy I experienced when focused on one girl / woman in my dating days -- long ago.)

Polyamory is about romantically/sexually loving more than one person openly (at least to the people involved) so any way you want to work that is polyamory. Getting "permission" from a spouse who has essentially become a permanent roommate in order to develop an emotional, sexual connection with one other would be borderline poly in my book since the spouse isn't really a sexual love relationship, but what I have to say really doesn't amount to much here. Your poly is your poly and if you find it helpful to be here, then bless you and welcome.

Mostly, I wanted to say that developing multiple simultaneous romantic relationships is about the worst way to avoid jealously that I can think of. In my experience, jealousy does not evaporate just because there is a "back up" relationship. Quite the opposite. Most people who choose to go down this road must also embrace the jealousy that arises and do a lot of internal work as they go along.
 
Mostly, I wanted to say that developing multiple simultaneous romantic relationships is about the worst way to avoid jealously that I can think of.

That makes sense. It's just that I know my jealousy complicated one very important teen-early-20's relationship and I really don't like how I was in that situation. And want to avoid burdening any future relationship with such childishness.
 
Greetings OldPod,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

As far as I can tell, you're in the right place. Polyamory is pretty flexible; it comes in many shapes and forms. I mean even if you only have one romantic partner, if you're open to the idea of taking on a second partner (and/or of your partner taking on a second partner) ... well, that's poly territory (as long as it entails mutual consent).

I hope you'll enjoy your stay with us.
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Getting "permission" from a spouse who has essentially become a permanent roommate in order to develop an emotional, sexual connection with one other would be borderline poly in my book since the spouse isn't really a sexual love relationship

I've given this a lot of thought over the last few days. I don't know if this is what you intended, Karen, but I take this to ask myself "What makes me think that I can bring joy to a new relationship that I am unable to provide in my current 39-year relationship?"

Certainly a legitimate question. I'm not sure I have a good answer.

One thing for certain, I don't need another failure right now, particularly in a relationship.

(As far as the sexual love relationship, my 'equipment' is so far out of 'warranty' that it'd be easier to raise Lazurus.)
~ Brian
 
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Hi Brian,

It sounds to me like you and your wife have been together for so long that you want to stay together still, mostly out of convenience and to avoid the hassle of divorce. Being that I am waiting for my divorce to be finalized by the courts (any day now!), after nearly five years of separation, I can understand wanting to avoid that drama - though sometimes divorcing is the better solution, even after so many years of marriage. I know someone whose parents divorced after 40 years of marriage and they both could not be more happy about that decision.

Though there seems to be respect and caring in your marriage, there doesn't appear to be much compatibility anymore, nor sexual desire or affection, from what you've written. I think it is a good and thoughtful question to ask yourself, "What joy and happiness would I be able to bring to a relationship with someone new?" BUT the part you wrote about seeing yourself as "unable to provide" that in your current relationship may be a bit too harsh a judgment on yourself. You and your wife got to the state you are in together, so I hope you are not solely blaming yourself. Each of you are 100% responsible for your parts in how the marriage has gone.

I mention this not only because your words struck me as a bit hard on yourself, but also to point out that if you do become romantically involved with someone else, whoever that new person is will bring her personality, relationship skills, history, etc. to the relationship and together you two would be creating your own dynamic. It would not be the same dynamic you have with your wife because you would be with a different person (and I highly doubt you would pick someone similar to your wife since you have a certain level of dissatisfaction with your incompatibility). So do not think it will go the same lackluster route, though you would probably do well to look out for any patterns of behavior in yourself that might steer it that way. You also might find that your "equipment" will start working again,or more often, with a different partner -- and there is always Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra (though I know sex is not your focus in seeking a new partner).

But that is putting the cart before the horse right now. You're not there yet. I think polyamory could work for you, because your questions are thoughtful and you seem to want to be considerate of your wife rather than cheat on her. That is great.

As far as polyamory goes, don't get caught up in thinking of it as a "thing" you need to handle. What I mean is - look, the terminology is fairly new (in use since the 1990s), but the concept isn't. My own great-grandmother had her boyfriend living with her and her husband when they were in their 70s, back in the 1960s. There have been countless married couples throughout the ages who have had an "understanding" that allowed one or both of them to roam. However, many polyamorists today feel that poly is a political movement, others dream up long lists of rules to follow, others come from swinging and think that it should work like swinging does (it doesn't, really), and there is an awful lot of jargon and theories that get tossed about. You don't need any of that.

You never even need to use the word polyamory when talking to your wife or trying to meet someone new. You can tell your wife that you want the kind of closeness and companionship that you know she is not interested in providing for you, so you are asking for her blessing in having a girlfriend. It's really that simple. And then you would be just as honest with any potential girlfriends and tell them your wife approves of your having a girlfriend. If you are honest, respectful, kind, and considerate, I don't know how you can fail.
 
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