Bi =/= Poly

...and I do think there are more bisexual than homosexual folk, that would make biological sense, since bisexual people could still reproduce...

Yeah, but lots of homosexuals have had and are having babies. Only in the last half century have gays had social freedom to live with partners and not enter hetero marriage, and lesbians have skills with turkey basters.

I'm actually bi, and only now looking to get pregnant since I entered a lesbian marriage (none of the dudes I've dated have been parent material, but she is), and there is a HUGE community of lesbian moms in my city. The gayby boom is actually driving the gay marriage movement.

But I'm rambling-- what I want to say is that as someone who's bi (and queer and pan) and attracted to a broad diversity of non-binary genders, I would be EXHAUSTED if I tried to date one of every gender I've been attracted to. Butches and femmes, genderqueers, boys, girls, in-betweeners, off-the-maps...

I have been happily promiscuous, and have called myself a slut. Didn't mean I wasn't picky.

I also had a boyfriend (in a triad) who told me he'd have a much harder time if I found a new boyfriend than a new girlfriend.

And then I ended up leaving poly, getting monogamously married to a woman. I guess the problem with a OPP was that he didn't expect me to swing all the way to a no-penis-policy. But he *knew* I was bi.
 
Yeah, but lots of homosexuals have had and are having babies

Hmmm, interesting point. I have to admit I'm really not familiar on statistics, in my mind it just makes sense that there are more bi folk (which really covers a range, but using the term for simplicity's sake) than gay folk.

Forgive my ignorance, but is it really true that having a gay parent makes you more likely to be gay? I always assumed that being raised by gay/poly/bi/kinky parents just made you more aware and open-minded, socially, not that it gave you a genetic tendency to be gay or whatever. And yes, kinky, for example, is not really so much an orientation as say, being gay, but I do believe there is something in your genetic makeup that predisposes you to enjoy kink (such as something wiring me to be naturally submissive and thus more easily fulfilled in a kink lifestyle).
 
There are some statistics on the biology of being gay, although it's still pretty fuzzy. For example, men are more likely to be gay if they have older brothers (birth order and the gender of older siblings seem to potentially play a role in the biology of it). There is some science suggesting an X chromosome link, but it's not a definitive thing.

There's even less known about bisexuality, etc., as science has really just begun the serious inquiry into sexuality and biology at all.
 
There's even less known about bisexuality, etc., as science has really just begun the serious inquiry into sexuality and biology at all.

And yet we know everything there is to know about penis size....

Priorities, huh?
 
Re (from GreenAcres):
"I should note that it's not really intended to be political (though I happen to agree with you), but more a commentary on how messed up our society's view of sexuality is."

You mean our mild collective case of sex-negativity? :)
 
Exactly!
 
Ahem ... having been a faithful Mormon as a teen, I can't tell you how much guilt I felt over my sexual drives. I definitely felt like a cup full of spit.
 
Kevin, there needs to be a *big hugs* emoticon, because really, no one should ever feel (or have been made to feel) like that.
 
Thanks ... and you're right, no one should have to go through that.
 
As a bi female, I can say that I don't NEED both to be happy, but I am much happier when I do have both male and female partners. I could never be happy in the long run having to choose one or the other (although I really do only need one male partner at a time, oddly, I really prefer having multiple female relationships, of varying dynamics).
Me too. I don't need both but happier when I have both at the same time.
 
Me too. I don't need both but happier when I have both at the same time.
And I totally get that, just as I understand straight and gay people are sometimes happiest with multiple partners. I am just pointing out that this isn't necessarily true for all, or even most, bisexuals. I don't actually have a preference or need for either sex, or for both simultaneously. the majority of bi people I know are monogamous. I can happily do poly or monogamy, and the sex of partners matters not, for example.

In my experience, and this is clearly not a scientific study, bi people are about as likely as straight or gay people to also be poly, but it often gets assumed that bi = poly, though that assumption didn't exist for other orientations.
 
Frequently, I see bisexuality (predominantly in women) touted as the "reason" for being poly, opening a marriage, only "allowing" female partners in a relationship to sleep with women in a polyship, etc. This misunderstanding of what it means to be bi has been the cause for a lot of issues in my life, and I often feel that some of what I see here suffers from the same misunderstandings.

Why is this an issue I bring up? Because I see here, and have heard a lot in Real Life, that someone who is bisexual "needs" to be poly/have partners of both sexes to be happy, or they need to be poly because they were looking to "Be true" to their bisexuality. And, of course, it is a huge excuse given for unicorn hunting.

But, bisexuality doesn't have any of those things attached to it. It just means liking both men and women. That's it.

Being bi does not mean I need to be sleeping with people of both sexes (or even want to). It does not mean I need partners of both sexes in my life at the same time. It does not mean my deepest desire is to have two partners of opposite sexes, preferably as a whole big threesome unit. It does not mean that I am unfulfilled by my partner sexually unless I am also having sex with a partner of the opposite sex (this one usually comes from guys, who seem to assume I "need" to sleep with a woman in addition to them, in order to be fulfilled and happy).

You get the idea.

My interest in poly isn't linked to being bisexual. I'd be just as likely to have multiple exclusively female partners rather than multiple partners of both sexes. I've been in happily monogamous relationships with partners of both sexes. I think a functioning triad or quad would be awesome, but it's not something I search for, and it certainly wouldn't need to contain partners of different sexes. I have many bisexual friends who are strictly monogamous, some that are a asexual (which would, I suppose, make them biamorous rather than bisexual), some that are poly.

I guess the point is that bisexuals are bisexual, not inherently poly or in need of multiple partners, which is often what people seem to think. A bisexual person might be poly, just like a heterosexual person might be, but there's no actual or necessary connection between the two. I feel like separating the two could be really helpful in many cases, rather than treating bisexuality and polyamory as inextricably linked, as it often seems to be.

I don't think one needs an "excuse" to be poly, and I also think separating the two allows for more honest conversation about relationships, motives, jealousies, etc.
thank you for making this! I get asked a lot by my PlayStation friends about having multiple partners, and they are always assuming I have to have multiple partners to be happy. I tell them no. As a bi woman I'm happy with either gender and wouldn't mind settling down with either. I just don't like the fact they automatically generalized bi to be poly, when that's not the case. I was raised in a house where my father cheated on my mom a lot, and it showed me the importance of staying with the person you love and not messing around with multiple people. I don't want to end up making mistakes like my father made, and I don't want to be juggling multiple people. I'd rather have one that I can spend the rest of my life with, one man or one woman.
 
This thread is from 2015
 
This thread has been very insightful. I'm recently bi. Since exploring my sexuality I've had lots of sex with different guys. I feel this will calm down when I find emotional connection, and already this is making sense in terms of sexual needs vs a reason for being poly. Thanks for starting this thread.
 
Frequently, I see bisexuality (predominantly in women) touted as the "reason" for being poly, opening a marriage, only "allowing" female partners in a relationship to sleep with women in a polyship, etc. This misunderstanding of what it means to be bi has been the cause for a lot of issues in my life, and I often feel that some of what I see here suffers from the same misunderstandings.

Why is this an issue I bring up? Because I see here, and have heard a lot in Real Life, that someone who is bisexual "needs" to be poly/have partners of both sexes to be happy, or they need to be poly because they were looking to "Be true" to their bisexuality. And, of course, it is a huge excuse given for unicorn hunting.

But, bisexuality doesn't have any of those things attached to it. It just means liking both men and women. That's it.

Being bi does not mean I need to be sleeping with people of both sexes (or even want to). It does not mean I need partners of both sexes in my life at the same time. It does not mean my deepest desire is to have two partners of opposite sexes, preferably as a whole big threesome unit. It does not mean that I am unfulfilled by my partner sexually unless I am also having sex with a partner of the opposite sex (this one usually comes from guys, who seem to assume I "need" to sleep with a woman in addition to them, in order to be fulfilled and happy).

You get the idea.

My interest in poly isn't linked to being bisexual. I'd be just as likely to have multiple exclusively female partners rather than multiple partners of both sexes. I've been in happily monogamous relationships with partners of both sexes. I think a functioning triad or quad would be awesome, but it's not something I search for, and it certainly wouldn't need to contain partners of different sexes. I have many bisexual friends who are strictly monogamous, some that are a asexual (which would, I suppose, make them biamorous rather than bisexual), some that are poly.

I guess the point is that bisexuals are bisexual, not inherently poly or in need of multiple partners, which is often what people seem to think. A bisexual person might be poly, just like a heterosexual person might be, but there's no actual or necessary connection between the two. I feel like separating the two could be really helpful in many cases, rather than treating bisexuality and polyamory as inextricably linked, as it often seems to be.

I don't think one needs an "excuse" to be poly, and I also think separating the two allows for more honest conversation about relationships, motives, jealousies, etc.
I agree, as someone who is both bi and poly. I know plenty of bi people who are mono. I know plenty of straight and gay people who are poly. No one needs an excuse to be poly, that's just how we are.
 
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