Couple-hunting in Unicornia

Woot, how did you figure out I was talking about myself while I tried to be very theoretical to avoid suspicions that this might be based on my life :eek:!

I guess I always assume (a) is the person speaking, thats more where my confusion came from :p

No, seriously, Mr. Sweets and VanillaIce are planning to go on a 'date' next week (by date we mean replenish their energies with food prior to a night of physically demanding horizontal mambo). Mr. Sweets, Windflower and I are a triad. I have a couple-relation with Vanilla. Thinking ahead of myself as I'm wont to do, if the thing between Mr. and Vanilla evolves into something more, will it mean I am now involved in two triads (an hourglass figure from my relationship)? Or do triads by definition require hanging out in and out of bed in threes?

Depends on how you define a triad. Believing a sexual relationship finishes the romantic relationship, I would never call a triad anything but a sexual & romantic relationship between all 3. That would be a V.

Some people do have "loving triads" that don't include sex.

So I guess thats really your call. haha

I am trying to quit caffeine :(.

I tried once.. many moons ago. Its not worth the pain. I have quite so many other things, the addiction gods kind suck it in regards to caffeine.. hahaha
 
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I just read 'The Monstrous Regiment' by Terry Pratchett. One character was a vampire who had decided to quit on blood and exchange it for a taste of coffee instead. Needless to say he got a bit...antsy when caffeine wasn't provided.

I'm with you on the 'need to cater to some addictions' thing. I'm trying to tell myself this isn't as bad as being addicted to food or nicotine or ethanol or other drugs while spewing out my breakfast on the bus stop on my way to work in the morning.
 
Well thats quite a site haha.. but I can't disagree with the visualization. :D.. I enjoy coffee, the taste, smell and the effects haha.

Haven't heard the name terry pratchet in years. I can't remember what I have read of his. I googled his books and couldn't find anything in there that I recognized.. seems soo familiar. Driving me nuts haha
 
. . . you are involved with A and B. A and B are also a couple. Enter C. You and C are a couple. Now, A and C express interest in each other. Imagine that . . . A and C also become involved on a couplish basis.

. . . you-A-C don't view themselves as having one relationship you-A-C in addition to having three parallel relationships you-A, you-C and A-C. So the old adage of 'there is not one, nor three, but FOUR relationships in any triad' would not be applicable. So, whereas the relationship A-B-you is a triad, the new situation would just be you-C and A-C.

. . . will it mean I am now involved in two triads (an hourglass figure from my relationship)? Or do triads by definition require hanging out in and out of bed in threes?

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"OMG she thought I was gay!?!"

Ooh, I like the figure eight idea! Especially since the number is very important for me, and signals eternity and what not.

Also, a cluster, or an intimate network, might be good. Ah, the date is tonight, we shall see how goes.

This is not the first time I'm frustrated that I can't actually draw up charts with these editing tools :(.

Off-topic now: Today at work, there was the, perhaps inevitable, Big Lesbian Discussion. More specifically, how horrible it is that just because a woman advertises on Facebook that she is in a relationship with a woman, people think that she could actually be SERIOUS?!? Come on, the whole idea is ludicrous. To think that even close friends might start suspecting you are a *lesbian* (the last word comes out in a hushed voice, followed by a lot of giggles).

Yeah, horrible indeed. I just wasn't in the mood to start lecturing them on how a woman being in a relationship with another woman does not by definition make her a lesbian, and how situational bisexuality is probably a lot more common than people assume. Let them have their giggles.

It's weird in a way. The more time you spend around weird people being weird and doing weird stuff, the weirder 'normal people' start to sound.

I mean, honestly. Is sexual orientation really that good of a joke to the majority of the population? When I told my first bf that my brother was gay, he insisted that it was funny. 'No it isn't'. 'Come on, it's a little funny'. :confused: After six years, still failing to see the funny.
 
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It's weird in a way. The more time you spend around weird people being weird and doing weird stuff, the weirder 'normal people' start to sound.

This times 10,000.

The funny part is that they don't realize they sound wierd-- because they think they are normal, or more honestly they think there is such a thing as normal.

I was reading something yesterday that said basically that the less people know or learn, the more they think they know a lot. People who learn a lot basically then realize how much is out there that they don't know. Which is why the first group of people tend to be arrogant and cocky and think they are smarter than they are, while the second group of people tend to be more humble or at least know they don't know all that much. It's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
 
Two major life stressors are gone (one work, the other studies-related), and I'm starting my holiday on Fri! Yay!

It continues to amaze me how relationships develop at such different paces, even when you try your best to invest equal amounts of time and attention to them. But people are just different, even and sometimes especially so if they are married to each other. How you can be totally comfy with one and still all fluttery and crushed by insecurity with the other?

I've been wondering why it seems as if FMF triads so frequently break into FMF vees. I wonder if some of it has to do with remaining socialization of 'putting men and their needs first', and thus neglecting the FF relationships in the triad? Is there such a small pool of bi poly women interested in triads that the chances of finding two compatible women who would be interested in one another are miniscule? If it's a first FF relationship AND first polyship, maybe there is just too little direction and social support and too big of a freak-out factor involved? Maybe women more often than men are just indirect communicators who tend to tiptoe around the real issues and let resentment build and gradually create distance between the FF pair?
 
Connexions, jealousy and Pride

So, connexions in where I now find myself are BAD. Like really bad. But not as bad as in that Third World country Sweetheart wages war in. We haven't had a proper conversation in a LONG TIME. Whenever we catch each other on Skype, he drops off every so often. It is frustrating, to know he is out there and not able to communicate. He can read my e-mail but can't stay on long enough to write any of his own.

He regrets taking his new job, and for my own selfish reasons, I tend to silently agree. At least where he was stationed before, we were able to talk.

Also, I had a brief brush with jealousy the other day! I was scheduled to spend some time with Flattie but got off work early and went home earlier than we had agreed on. So Flattie was there with her OSO, which is cool - I had showed up earlier than I said I would, so I decided to take a nap and let them have some peace and quiet.

So the nap was longish. When I woke up, he was still there, and I heard them laughing in the other room and just generally having a good time. Combined with the nagging fear I've had recently of neglecting Flattie, I felt a tinge of it! Jealousy. Fear of losing someone I hold dear to another person, so that they would no longer like me as much as I like them.

So I took my time, arranged my room for a bit and waited till he was gone. And we talked about it with Flattie. She was sad that I had to feel that way and assured me that if ever the two of them want to be alone, they will go outside or into her room or whatever, and that I am always welcome to join them if they are just hanging out. Her therapist had asked her a while aback if we never get jealous of each other, her OSO and I, to which Flattie had proudly proclaimed that no, they don't do that :D.

I really don't want to impose on them. When they are together, she sits in his lap and entwines her fingers with his. Not the best 'come hang out with us' body language going on there, I might say. On the other hand, his wife said to Flattie once that me and Flattie are such a self-sustained unit that there really isn't room for anyone to come in between. So maybe this is a healthy phase in our relationship, where we both take a little space and time to make other connections also. I do look forward to moving back in with her, though.

Mum commented that if I want to work for the government at some point later, I might want to avoid being seen at Pride. 'Marching might win you justice but it sure as hell ain't gonna win you any jobs'. I might not be that interested in a job where I can't be seen at Pride.

She also asked if we lesbians have a sign by which we may know each other. A secret handshake or some such. I wish! Also, a secret poly codeword would come really handy sometimes.
 
I've never had a LDR and they sound pretty challenging, especially when your communication gets cut off. :( That sounds pretty rough. How long is he going to be stationed there?

I had some of the same anxieties when it came to "interrupting" my ex and his wife. I always felt super awkward initiating physical contact when they were doing anything. Especially when he would sit on the other end of the couch and she would be in the middle. I hated that! She and I were never physically close, so it was pretty much a guarantee that I wouldn't get to cuddle. Of course, I was too silly to ask for it to change, but you know. It sounds like you've got the lines of communication open to fix/tweak things. :)
 
How long is he going to be stationed there?

Till 2014 maybe :confused:? Honestly, he is a military man, been in the army since he was 17, already sort of retired and then re-enlisted because he missed the life. They'll be sending him off to Libya or who knows, Somalia next. Hey, at least I get to travel into far away places!

The hardest part is not knowing, if he doesn't answer, if he is just unable to connect, busy, hurt, dead or lost in action :(.
 
Thank you for the hug.

I have decided to become fluid-bonded with Moonlight, and that scares me a bit. No, make that a lot.

Of course, this is all pretty much weeping over spilled milk, since I am already pretty fluidy with Windy and Vanilla. But they are girls (I know, I know, that doesn't necessarily change anything, but the risks are pretty low). And this will double-bond me with both. For Windy, that probably isn't such a great problem, since now she is content with two partners as it is. But Vanilla has a few FWBs and I know that at least with one of them, they are not always protected.

This bothers me a bit, since if Vanilla and Moonlight also bond, I, Windy and ML will all be exposed to much greater risk. The problem is that Vanilla trusts her friends while I don't. So how to insist on her either a) not bonding with ML or b) always having protected sex outside our circle without sending the message 'Hun, I love you but I don't trust your judgement when it comes to people'?
 
If you are fluid bonded with Vanilla and she has unprotected sex with someone else, then the bond has been broken. You are no longer fluid-bonded. :(

If any kind of agreement or situation has you feeling uncomfortable, don't go along with it. It doesn't matter if someone's feelings are hurt; they need to accept the consequences of their actions.
 
I am already pretty fluidy with Windy and Vanilla [...] But Vanilla has a few FWBs and I know that at least with one of them, they are not always protected.

If you are fluid bonded with Vanilla and she has unprotected sex with someone else, then the bond has been broken. You are no longer fluid-bonded. :(

I missed this the first time around! Yes, you are already having unsafe sex via Vanilla's FWBs.

If you really want to bond with ML, you insist that ML and Vanilla have safer sex, and you also start having safer sex with her.

Regardless, it sounds like you should be having safer sex with Vanilla, given her unprotected sex with at least one FWB. (Honestly, if you're "fluidy" with her, why don't you already know how many people she's having unprotected sex with?? :confused:)
 
If you are fluid bonded with Vanilla and she has unprotected sex with someone else, then the bond has been broken. You are no longer fluid-bonded. :(

Thanks for pointing that out.

(Honestly, if you're "fluidy" with her, why don't you already know how many people she's having unprotected sex with?? :confused:)

Possible reasons? Looming stupidity and massive ignorance, and the unspoken assumption that people always use condoms with their FWBs. Well, at least now I asked. And the number is two.

There's lots of information out there, but the overwhelming majority of it is geared to heterosexual monogamous couples.

So, condoms shall be the order of the day for the forseeable future with ML. And regular check-ups for me. And a talk with Windy. :(
 
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