Did i do the right thing?

Shiftrift

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Im just going to lay it all out in the open. I apologize if this seems like a long post. I just need some advice.

My fiance and i have been together for 3 years as of may of this year. Back in november of 2017 we decided to move to Florida. We uprooted our own lives and the lives of her children from previous relationships in june 2018 and moves to Florida to start a new life together. We had planned to by a home, and be together. As a family.

Things didnt pan out for either of us job wise so we struggled for a bit. She was able to start a job before i was and it was decent enough pay that i stayed home with the kids. In late july she introduced me to a co worker of hers that was hung up on another co worker of theirs and we all became friends. My fiance and i both agreeded that he was a nice guy. He and i became friends quickly. My fiance and this co worker went out with some of his friends on august 25th and ended up sleeping together. She came home the next day and i could tell something had happened between them. But she had to go to work shortly after getting back. The next day while we were in the car she confessed that something did happen and she felt guilty. I admit i had already known, i wasn't upset. That night when they both finishes out their shifts at work we all talked. I gave her 3 options.

1. We take time and focus on us because with all the changes taking place in our lives recently we grew apart.

2. She chooses him. He offers her the embodyment of everything we moved here for. A fresh start.

3. She dates both of us equally. Because i dont want there to be ant doubt about us in our committed relationship and i dont want to ruin a possible real relationship with him.

It was an emotional night because they both have feelings for each other and she still has feelings for me. She decides that she wants to try with both of us. I tell them i fully support it but we need to set ground rules. We also agree that we should have set date nights.

A week goes by and she starts spending a majority of her time with him. They sleep together on our couch. They cuddle. I start to feel left out already.

Thursday she and i have a date night. Wine and blankets out on the pier at sunset. Romance is present. Shes present. We come home and i feel like she wants to be with him so we make love then he comes over. A real set of rules were not in place at this time. She says when we had sex that night it felt off.

The next day we all meet for brunch to discuss things. During the week leading to this point i was researching ways this could work. Open communication, being emotionally supportive, discussing everything. Our individual needs and wants. I come to our brunch with a list of things im ok with. Things im not ok with and a set od guidelines. The main things on my list were that i ask that they use condoms, include me in talks about the relationship, and just be honest about everything.

Things between them continue as they have the previous week. Spending more nights together, at his place. Spending longer mornings together. Because im not working and they work evenings till 1am, the full responsibility of the children was on me. The upkeep of our home was on me. I expresses that i was uncomfortable and felt like we should maybe start alternating nights. So that way she can be home more for the kids and we can try spending more time together. They agree.

In the last few weeks, we've done so but the nights she is supposed to spend with me she comes home almost an hour after shes done working. She comes home and goes to bed. We cuddle but then the next morning im responsible for getting up at 7am to take the kids to school. The i lay back down with her when im done. I attempt to initiate intimacy and get brushed off. He drives her to worm every day and drives her home every night.

I'm feeling left out still. I know that they are still in the new relationship feelings. I know that. But i feel shes changed everything around to squeeze out as much time as possible with him while chipping away from what we have. Ive brought it up before early on but she accused me of being needy and pulled back more. All i did was try to shair information ive read on handling a poly relationship.

Im at a loss and am feeling ignored. I feel powerless and alone..please tell me what to do.
 
I'm sorry you struggle.

It sounds like she cheated on your previous agreements with a coworker/friend. (She's got a hand in it but at the same time... some friend!)

You gave her the option to keep going. Like try to transition from cheating to polyamory. Which is one of the hardest ways to go, IMO. Esp when not really prepared. And now you've been saddled with all the work while she gets all the "fun."

It sounds like poly hell.

Plus some https://felislunae.org/relationships-love/coming-clean/

Do you really want to be doing this? :confused:

But i feel shes changed everything around to squeeze out as much time as possible with him while chipping away from what we have. Ive brought it up before early on but she accused me of being needy and pulled back more. All i did was try to shair information ive read on handling a poly relationship

Are they doing any reading or work? Because you might be trying to "go poly" with this. While they might be at "continue cheating affair, just out in the open now."

It's not fair the childcare and house chores always land on you. And your couple time with her is shrinking. You bringing it up to her attention doesn't make you "needy" -- it makes it you making her aware of problems you are having. You ARE trying to hold up the current arrangement and be honest about everything.

In terms of time management, she has work taking up 8 hours. She needs 8 hours sleep. The rest of her time? Her part of the chores and her part of the parenting need doing. THEN she can have couple time with you and couple time with him.

Say you were broken up. Who'd be doing the home chores and parenting then? She is neglecting you, the kids, her home responsibilities.

The main things on my list were that i ask that they use condoms, include me in talks about the relationship, and just be honest about everything

This sounds like the NEW agreement all 3 agreed they will hold up. You seem to be trying to be honest about what's going on with you but GF doesn't want to hear it or flips it around on you.

How does BF respond when you made him aware?

But back up a bit to this...

I gave her 3 options.

1. We take time and focus on us because with all the changes taking place in our lives recently we grew apart. (<-- I would have asked for this, esp with the cheating with coworker thing. And if she did not want to do that, then move on to 2 and part ways. )


2. She chooses him. He offers her the embodyment of everything we moved here for. A fresh start.

3. She dates both of us equally. Because i dont want there to be ant doubt about us in our committed relationship and i dont want to ruin a possible real relationship with him.

Why does she chose what happens to you? Rather than YOU choose the direction in your life? Are you (or her) concerned about ruining the real relationship with YOU?

She chose #3, and now you come to find you are NOT being dated equally. And there ARE doubts about her committment to the relationship with you. So... now what? It is a deal breaker for you now?

Do you love Open/Poly relationships? Even if you weren't with her... would you be doing Open/Poly relationships?

I am concerned you might be doing things you don't really want to be doing just to still be with her and avoid breaking up. Is that happening here?

Or are you trying to "whitewash" cheating with the poly brush and finding it doesn't work that way? I'm not hearing about what work this group is doing to heal from cheating and rebuild trust.

I'm also concerned that all this is taking time away from you finding your OWN employment. So you are kinda trapped with the house and kids and being her dependent right now. :(

I suggest you step it up on finding a job, no matter how the relationship with her plays out. And do NOT get married until this is sorted out.

Cheating the first time could already be a deal breaker to me.

Calling me names like "clingy and needy" when I hold up the agreement to be honest about things and bring things up? That I don't like being saddled with all the chores while being neglected? That's playing head games and not kind behavior.

Def deal breaker 2 times over. Because I'm already being pretty generous in trying to have this work out, and I don't need to be a doormat.

Most people (if willing to consider poly at all after cheating) are not willing to have the cheating affair partner still in the mix.

You seem to be taken for granted in a big way here. :(

Galagirl
 
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First of all, what was the reason for you and your fiancée deciding to uproot and move to Florida?

I ask, because it might provide an important clue as to her mindset and the state of your relationship. I notice you've been together three years. NRE usually lasts somewhere between 6months and 2years. After three years together, many couples beginning to get "comfortable" with each other and sometimes the spark dies down.

I also noticed you said your fiancée has children from previous relationshipS, plural. Not that I'm into shaming anybody for this, however, I'm wondering if she has a history of "serial monogamy" and moving on pretty quickly after the rush of NRE dies out(?) It's just a question, as I said, not a judgement... but is that what's going on here? Is she using this situation with her new guy as a "soft exit" out of the relationship with you?

Now... (for the judgement) ;) Your fiancée has acted rashly and irresponsibly within this current situation.

For one thing, she cheated on you. You didn't specify if you two had already talked about, or had an agreement in regards to non-monogamy, but it doesn't sound like that was the case. So, she went out with her co-worker - a mutual friend of you both - and slept with him. I don't know if they had safe sex, or if you asked them to use condoms after the fact.

It's generally advised when opening up a relationship that the poly partner does NOT continue a relationship with the cheating partner. In this case, you were forgiving and open-minded enough to consent to them continuing to be together. Did you agree/suggest this just so you wouldn't lose her? Are you really okay with polyamory (assuming things are fair and you're not left out) or are you agreeing under duress or because you feel you don't have a choice?

IMHO, your fiancée is behaving irresponsibly in regards to her children. Because she is the one working, she was already leaving them in your care (which is fair enough). However, now she's in the throes of NRE with new guy, she seems to think it's okay to leave them both by day AND by night, whenever she wants to be with her lover. Is she spending any time nurturing them and giving them her time and attention? How has she, or either of you, explained the situation with the other guy to the kids? (You said they're school age not babies, so they must wonder where she goes at night, yes/no?)

Moreover, you are/were engaged to this woman and are a parental figure of importance to her children. Is the wedding still on? Have you two discussed this recently? How does new guy fit into those plans? Have you considered couples counselling? (I would certainly suggest it, given the situation.)

I'm not sure what it is you're getting out of this, other than being used somehow. Maybe not intentionally or deliberately, but often NRE has the effect of temporarily making someone go slightly bonkers with the intensity of the new emotional/sexual connection.

This may be fine for a single, mono person... however, your fiancée doesn't appear to be taking your needs, or the needs of her children, into consideration here... and that is wrong and neglectful. Through circumstances, you are home all day alone (in a new city) or with the kids... while she is either out at work, communicating with other adults, or with her lover who she's focussing most of her energy and attentions on. This must be a very isolating experience for you. :( She needs a wake-up call.

Remember, you do NOT have to agree to this situation if it doesn't sit well. And even if you're okay with it, in spirit, you do not have to capitulate to her terms.

Continue to talk through the issues, especially as regards her responsibility to her children. And definitely seek counselling if you think it might help.
 
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...with all the changes taking place in our lives recently we grew apart.

People don't ipso facto grow apart because they move together, look for jobs and have changes in their lives. Why did you really grow apart? There were some significant pre-existing conditions to her starting this new relationship.
 
People don't ipso facto grow apart because they move together, look for jobs and have changes in their lives. Why did you really grow apart? There were some significant pre-existing conditions to her starting this new relationship.

We began putting everything ahead of our own relationship. We moved because her mother was having issues with her step father. She wanted to be closer for them.

We stopped making time for us and put our goals in priority. At least thats what i think happened. We spent more time working extra hours and planning the move for months. The kids had boy scouts and band practice. Trying to find jobs before we moved was taking a lot of our time. What broke me was the jobs we had found and were offered to us were rescinded. We ended up stuck at her parents house and that caused intimacy issues because her step father was an invasive person with no respect for boundaries.
 
Hello Shiftrift,

You have a difficult situation on your hands, that's for sure. It sounds like your fiancée is letting NRE dictate her every move. Can I ask, are you still stuck at her parents' house, or have you been able to get a place of your own? It seems to me that that is a vital part of this equation. That and the fact that she seems to be taking you for granted. If you have any specific wedding plans I would suggest canceling them, or postponing them indefinitely. You need to decide if you even want to stay partnered with this woman, she is mistreating you.

You can of course try to ride it out and wait for the NRE to subside. She may come to her senses once that happens. But be wary; she may be losing respect for you now if she sees you as a pushover. Now may be the time for you to stand up for your rights.

You are very generous to consent to her continuing to see this coworker. She is taking full advantage of that, and is breaking the spirit (and maybe the letter too) of the promises she made to you (that she would follow the agreements she made with you). Call her on this.

I'm sure you don't want to break up; I hope you won't have to. I don't think you've done anything wrong, you are trying your best. Once you stand up for your rights, the ball is in her court. What she does at that point is very telling. I hope she does the right thing.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
That's a lot of stuff in a short time.

We stopped making time for us and put our goals in priority.

Why isn't "couple time" one of the goals or priorities included in the overall plan? :confused:

We ended up stuck at her parents house and that caused intimacy issues because her step father was an invasive person with no respect for boundaries.

Then why move at all to be closer to these people? Rather than ask them to move to you if they need help, or just the mom move to you if she wants to leave the step father?

I keep wondering if part of this BF thing is escapism for her? To run away from all these other problems? And you bringing up poly issues is too much "reality" for her, and she's taking it out on you like you are pulling her out of the escape bubble and back into the grind?


I guess it doesn't matter at this point. What matters is what YOU want to do next in your life. You don't sound happy about where it is right now.

Galagirl
 
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