Double standard revisited

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Does anybody else have difficulty with double standards?

Being the way I am, I don't understand why I have trouble feeling comfortable/totally accepting if my significant others are the same way I am. I think I'm having hypothetical double standard issues. I'm trying to place myself in my significant other's reference frame to imagine how I would feel if our situations were reversed. I know they may see and feel things differently than I do. But if I were in their shoes, not their heads, I would feel uneasy, I think. I don't understand why.

I'm trying to put myself in that perspective, so when it happens, I'll be prepared and be able to rationalize things.

I'm evolving, but I need to be cognizant to walk upright so my knuckles don't drag on the ground. If I think about it and rationalize, primitive reactions can be held at bay.

I think it boils down to being perplexed as to understanding myself. How I can care for more than one, and have each one be so wonderfully meaningful, and not take anything away from the others, yet question that same concept with these people I care so much about?

Being comfortable and feeling fulfilled myself, and really care and be committed to those relationships. I feel these relationships complement each other and actually contribute to making their 'counterpart' relationships even stronger.

I feel cared for and wanted by each in their own way, and they don't take anything away from what the others offer, and I value each one.
I truly feel this, but I personally seem to be missing the part that can truly accept returning that logic, thus the double standard. It's not fair to the wonderful people in my life, and it really bothers me. I'm getting better, but any thoughts would be appreciated. I've talked about this before here, and through your help and Rubyslipper's and Snowbunting's patient love, I've come a long way, but does anyone else feel Like this?

Me (M)-- 51-yrs old, somewhat bisexual, incredibly fortunate to have wonderful people in my life:
Ruby Slippers (F)- my rock.
Snowbunting (F)- several years younger, but infinitely 'older' in wisdom and evolution, dear intimate close friend regardless of the miles between us.
T (M) and J (F)- married couple, playmates for 9 years, whom I see together, developing an (encouraged by T) independent relationship with J.
Baby (F)- bisexual, way younger, co-worker, angel/devil, full of life and a bit reckless, so very thoughtful and determinedly goal-oriented. Admittedly, there is some NRE going on, and I'm enjoying every second.
 
I am having trouble understanding.

How I can care for more than one,, and have each one be so wonderfully meaningful, and not take anything away from the others, yet question that same concept with these people I care so much about?

Does that mean that in your polyship arrangements, there is the standard of reciprocity, that in this polyship, all the people are free to date others, and at this time, you are the shared sweetie person, and you are good with that part of it, but you are not sure you are ready to be a metamour to whoever your polyship people date? If that is the case, there is no double standard. The standard is the expectation of reciprocity. It applies to all.

That you are ready for one leg of it (being the shared sweetie yourself), and not the other (sharing your sweeties with others), that's personal readiness in two different areas. Could this help, especially pages 5 and 6?

Unless you mean that in your polyship there are two standards at play:

1) You get to have two sweeties or more.
2) Your sweeties do not get to date others, just you.

Then it would be a double standard. Assuming they have voluntarily signed up to be in a polyamorous network with you, they know the expectations, so presumably they are good with it. Are the people in your polyship unhappy with the agreements? What are the agreements they are not happy with? Did they not know what they signed up for here?

In general, I would have a hard time with double standards. I would want to know what I'm getting into before agreeing to be there in polyship.

Feeling okay being shared, but needing time to be okay with sharing, I can see that. It's two different areas of relating.

Galagirl
 
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Hi Gala Girl,

I'm working off an iPhone, and I don't think I can highlight specific sentences/questions to answer. Hopefully your quoted questions followed by my attempts to answer will make sense. I'll try to clarify:

"Does that mean that in your polyship arrangements, there is the standard of reciprocity, that all the people are free to date others?"

Answer: Absolutely. The people in my life are free to date and love whoever they want. However I am protective and would say something if I thought a metamour was not treating my intimate well.

"At this time, you are the shared sweetie, and you are good with that part of it. But you are not sure you are ready to be a metamour to whoever your polyship people date? If that is the case, there is no double standard. The standard is the expectation of reciprocity. It applies to all."

Answer: I suppose I am the shared 'sweetie person' and I am good with that. If my intimates want to have others in their lives, they know they are completely free to do that. I want them to be happy, and if that entails them having other relationships, I would never stand in the way. The problem is I am fearful I will lose them to another. I am concerned about losing the joy they bring me. But I would not stand in their way.

"That you are ready for one leg of it (being the shared sweetie yourself), and not the other (sharing your sweetie with another) -- that's personal readiness in two different areas."

Answer: I have shared my intimates with others and have evolved from being physically sick at the thought of them being with another, to helping one of them with transportation so she could spend time with one of her new friends. I've also bowed out in the middle of a date so that she could help her good friend (sometimes lover) when he was going through a difficult time. I also am encouraging a long-distance intimate to partake in poly meet-n-greets. (Hopefully a lucky guy will catch her eye.) Despite me wanting her to be gloriously happy, I'm concerned I will lose her to another. But I will not stand in her way.

"Unless you mean that in your polyship there are two standards at play:
1) You get to have two sweeties or more.
2) Your sweeties do not get to date others... just you."

Answer: I do not want to deprive them of happiness. They absolutely can date others. I just get stomach flip-flops when they do.

Hopefully that clarifies things.
 
I guess I was confused by "double standard" because there doesn't seem to be one.

I am not sure, but it seems to be something like...

a) I have a fear of losing my shared sweetie to another, being abandoned, having an ugly breakup. (Or something in that general bucket. Could you elaborate?)
b) My sweeties don't seem to have this problem. That makes me feel (what?)

It seems to be about knowing yourself, and being able to articulate what you feel about what you find inside, so you can then move past "ID" and toward "figure out what to do next to resolve it."

It's not that the polyship is operating under a double standard conflict, but that you are at inner conflict about wanting to be generous with your sweeties should they want to date others, and dealing with your fears.

Are those the two things that are "bumping heads" inside you and causing discomfort?

Galagirl
 
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