How do I do this?

Aloha all. I need advice. This is going to be long but I'll try to keep it on point. So first some background, I am married have been for 13 going on 14 years. I'm early 30s we have a kid. I realized I'm bisexual somewhere around 22. I had always been but was raised in a religious environment and didn't know that was an option. I was already married and told my husband who eventually agree I could be with women if I wanted to. I was only with one, and not completely we fooled around I loved it, he didn't like that she kept calling and texting me after to hook up again so I ended contact. He didn't want me to mess with someone that might try to steal me away. So after discovering my best friend was willing to occasionally fool around with me he gave me permission to be with her in anyway whenever because she is also married and has no desire to be with me beyond occasional fooling around.
Several years later my husband and I had a blow out over a secret he had kept from me our entire relationship that meant a lot to me. It sounds crazy sometimes but I was a virgin when we met and he lied to me and said he was also. Turns out he had been with two girls in high school. It wasn't that he wasn't a virgin, I was surprised when he said he was, he's super hot and was 21 when we met. I was hurt and betrayed because honesty was the one thing I always gave him and only asked he do the same. Honesty was a huge thing to me, I was upfront about everything I told him about every guy I'd messed around with, about the abuse I suffered at the hands of my uncle and a few boys in junior high and he lied about some thing that wouldn't have mattered. That caused a major shut down that we never recovered from. I stopped being upfront and honest, where I was blind to men I suddenly saw them again and their interest in me. We broke that night.
A few years after that I went back to work, our kid started preschool, and i met a man was interested in me. From that fateful night i had slipped back into deep depression I'd had in my youth, gained weight, and become convinced that my husband did not love me at all. The man made me feel loved and special and beautiful. I lost almost 100 pounds while seeing him, first as a friend until he kissed me and I kissed him back. Then I was convinced i was inlove with him so I told my husband. We fought it got ugly I left the guy and stayed with my husband for our kid. He started showing me love and appreciation, I saw him as my loving husband again and things got okay. No trust on his end because I'm the cheating whore but the sex vastly improved and we got stable. Still very much lacking in communication but we get along. We are both gamers, movie fiends, beach lovers, and we love our kid and have good sex some times.
I'm sorry I know that was a lot of background info... now to the reason I'm here. A year ago I was sexually assaulted by my husband's half brother. He was arrested but never charged, he spent 6 months in jail for breaking parole and then was released. He haunts me, but I've gotten better over time. Because of the nature of the assault and what he made me do I realized not shockingly that I am deeply submissive. I obeyed him without a fight inspite of screaming and crying in my head I said nothing except telling him I didn't want to and to please stop. But I still did exactly what he told me to do. I say not shockingly because over the years my interest in submission has grown, I bought plugs for my husband to use on me, he wasn't interested but said I could put them in myself. I've tied myself up lol, tried to interest him in spanking me, asked for threesomes, he's just not interested. He literally loves vanilla that's his favorite flavor. He's not interested in dominating or hurting me. But since the assault I NEED it.. deeply crave it, it's like him taking away my power broke some thing in me and I want that power back I want to be in control of my submission. Back in May I asked him if we could open our marriage he said no at first but I kept talking about it and eventually he agrees to let me tall to people, just talk. We never spoke of it again after that and I've been online for 6 months. I met a dom, he's in Cali but coming here for work, I want to be with him when he comes. And after he leaves I want to find a dom on island to fulfill that deep need I can't shake. I don't know how to talk to my husband about this without hurting him or driving him away. I love him and don't want a divorce but at the same time I'm not getting what I need from him sexually and some times emotionally. I feel like a dom could satisfy that. Maybe I'm just so messed up and traumatized I'm looking in the wrong direction for healing. Idk how to have a dom and a husband, or how to get my husband to understand it's not about leaving him or finding someone else it's about satisfying this deep craving I have. What do I do?
 
I think I've always been...

I'm new here, second post first still pending. While writing the first one it occurred to me that I have always had a polyamorous mindset. Even in my youth, in high school my long time boyfriend was perplexed when i would randomly just make out with people men and women. When he went away to college I randomly made out with several guys, once with him on the phone, and they were meaningless for me. I just felt a physical connection to them and wanted to kiss them. I didn't see it as a betrayal or anything just exploring other people. Once married and discovering my bisexuality I was good being with a woman and it didn't feel like cheating, though I did have permission. Once I cheated with a man, until we actually had sex nothing leading up to it, none of the foreplay or making out felt like cheating to me. It was just some thing I wanted to do, I didn't think it would be an issue with my husband. I was wrong because he's not polyamorous at all and doesn't see the world the way I do. I love him and want to be with him until one of us dies, but I also want to have a dom. I want to have freedom to have sex with said dom or other people if I have a connection. I don't want to find another husband I just want freedom. Idk how to make my sweet loving husband understand that it's not that he isn't enough or that I want to move on I just need other things he can't give me. And want freedom. I don't even know that I would have sex with other people, I've only had sex with him and once with the guy I had an affair with. What if it's awful? Anyways, how do I explain that I want to be spanked and choked and brought to orgasm by a dom?
 
Hello Voluptuouschef,

I guess the thing to say to your husband is, "I want to stay married, and be nonmonogamous as well." This is the core issue that your husband needs to wrap his mind around, if he can. And it is entirely possible that he can't. This is a time for you to consider whether you and your husband are compatible. If you're not, that's no one's fault. It just means that you may have to separate. And maybe it won't come to that. Maybe he will wrap his mind around it. Maybe he won't at first, but give him a year (more or less) and he might get there after all.

What about the idea of trying a marriage counselor, have you done that? It might be something to think about. In any case, I hope you and your husband can work something out.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Thank you for the advice! No we have not tried a marriage counselor, he's always been unwilling when I've brought it up. I've actually skirted around saying that a few times. I told him I don't think I'm a monogamous person at my core that I am poly. Then I had to explain what that was and he looked... amused/disgusted I guess. I don't think we are necessarily incompatible but we lack comparability in some areas. Like I'm submissive but he's more of a laid back beta male rather than an alpha which means I have to be more dominant when I don't want to be. So decisions won't always get made because we will waffle and I just want him to make a decision and do it. Im not a strong believer in divorce especially when there is are kids involved and when there is still love and not a hostile environment. I grew up with parents who should have been divorced long ago but stayed together for us and the environment was often and still is toxic. But we rarely fight and are generally nice and loving to each other, there's just this gulf it seems that separates what we both want from life and our relationship, and while it's similar it's dissimilar enough to have a disconnect. Another problem is he wants me to be happy and will sacrifice his feelings for that without expressing it. So if I push it he would likely agree and then be festering with rage/regret/sorrow. Which is probably why I am not making any moves at this point towards anything, just thinking and planning and researching. Is it possible to be in a loving commited relationship that's open but only one person actually uses the openness and has a dom? He's stated that he does not want anyone else, he just wants me, and wouldn't use it if we opened it up. Sorry I know I was like of all over the place, I had a monster earlier so I'm a little wired.
 
Is it possible to be in a loving commited relationship that's open but only one person actually uses the openness and has a dom?

Yes, but only if there is not just consent but active and ongoing appreciation and enthusiasm for the whole situation. There's got to be a lot more than mere acquiescence. It requires a tremendous amount of patience, soul searching and maturity in every person involved. A therapist can help you sort through this, but the partners have be willing and able to do the inner work. And it's a lot of work to change one's entire world view. Yes, it can be done. I've experienced it and I see it happening in my loved ones in various forms, but in my experience, "success" only happens among people who are mature, already life experienced, courageously self reflective and emotionally generous to begin with. This is not the terrain of people who tend to be stuck in their ways or fearful.
 
Hi

If the " don't want a divorce" part can be considered a fear, you have cheated as stated, then work on that fear first!
And if you truly want to be honest about it... Let your husband down and out easy? Start fresh... Give it a good Six moths to a year.. Then if the chemistry is still there with your SO start a new agreement!
You guys can divorce on paper, while still living together, that way you both are free to go your own ways as needed.
 
Oh wow. This is a bit of a mess... but we all have our messes. I'd like to write a longer comment, but just one thought for now.
I'm sorry I know that was a lot of background info... now to the reason I'm here. A year ago I was sexually assaulted by my husband's half brother. ...Because of the nature of the assault and what he made me do I realized not shockingly that I am deeply submissive. ... [My husband] is not interested in dominating or hurting me. But since the assault I NEED it... deeply crave it, it's like him taking away my power broke some thing in me and I want that power back I want to be in control of my submission. ... I want to find a dom on island to fulfill that deep need I can't shake. I don't know how to talk to my husband about this without hurting him or driving him away. ... I don't want a divorce but at the same time I'm not getting what I need from him sexually and some times emotionally. I feel like a dom could satisfy that. Maybe I'm just so messed up and traumatized I'm looking in the wrong direction for healing.
This is a convoluted story, sorry for your pain :(
Consider that the bolded thoughts may not be either/or, but both/and.
It's entirely possible that submission and sexual liberation is a real need for you - people do break relationships over this sometimes. The power in sexuality is a very strong drive.
But is it the right place for healing trauma? It's not impossible to liberate oneself of old patterns through sexuality and bdsm, but going into your first experience with a focus on trauma ... I'm no expert, but to me, it seems to be asking for more trouble.
I'm not saying "don't find a dom" or "don't talk to your husband", I'm saying: do seek other ways of healing.
 
I caution you to go lightly with regards to the bdsm thing, if it even gets that far.

As for your husband, yes it's going to hurt. Your relationship could definitely take a nosedive. OTOH, he did leave it open to you talking to other people. BTW, that is a silly rule, to only talk. In order to be remotely successful you will both have to do away with rules like that.
 
Where to begin...

"You guys can divorce on paper, while still living together, that way you both are free to go your own ways as needed."

@Vinsanity, Yes I've brought that up. He said he couldn't handle living and loving me and basically presenting a lie to our kid and everyone else. We live on Oahu where the cost of living is akin to new York, so no extra bedroom for one of us to move into, he said he couldn't handle it. That was however years ago, we don't talk much now about important things, the disconnect.

"This is a convoluted story, sorry for your pain*
Consider that the bolded thoughts may not be either/or, but both/and.*
It's entirely possible that submission and sexual liberation is a real need for you - people do break relationships over this sometimes. The power in sexuality is a very strong drive.*
But is it the right place for healing trauma?"
@Tinwen, convoluted is the perfect word for my inner world at this time. Yes it's a super crap situation and your probably right that it's the wrong place to find healing though surprisingly many "survivors", which is a word I hate because I didn't not really, have found it as a way to take back the power that was stolen from them. However while it is part of the explanation as to why I'm so enamored with the thought, it's not the focus. I wouldn't go into it focussing on the trauma, though I'd expect possible triggers considering what I've been through and what I want to do. Maybe I'd freak out and break down and lose even more of myself. Or maybe I would find myself again.

@Rockit, Yes I am afraid, but its more than that. I don't want to break up my family, or mess up my kids life, my selfishness in the past already damaged her, she deosnt remember any of it but she changed from it, lost her Joy. I guess that's why I've been seeking permission to try and stop another explosion while still getting what I want/need. Or am I still just being a selfish asshole?

@fallenangelina, I've never thought of it that way, we are definitely not in that place of reflection and communication. So where we are... it would definitely do more damage then good.
As to the "openness" that we have, when it came about and he actually said yes to me starting the process of opening it he asked if I wanted to meet the men i would be talking to and at the time I didn't. So I said right now no, that's why I specifically ignore and avoid talking to men on Oahu. However, I've come to want to meet, I started talking to someone a few days ago on island. He has dominant qualities and is married and just looking for some rough awesome sex from a friend. We are in the friendship building phase now.
Thank you for all the replys you guys are awesome, so glad I found this forum. Hopefully one day I will be in an open marriage and be able to fully embrace my polyamorous self.
 
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