Long Distance to No Distance

Leetah

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Rather than continue wading through the search results I have decided to just be lazy ask people for advice.

My LDR of two years is going to be arriving within the next month or two and will be staying with my husband, two kids and I while he job hunts and saves up money for a deposit on his own apartment. We have all spent lots of time talking and playing games online together but this will be our first long experience of all being together. I have read articles and posts about polys moving in together but those generally do not focus on the LDR to living together transition.

So, who's got advice or suggestions? (If you feel constrained to say "Don't do it!" I will be sad but will keep it in mind)

Thanks

Leetah
 
Why would someone move without having savings, a job, and etc lined up?

OK so you have played games online with this man. But I am sorry but it is down right dangerous to move a strange man into your children's home. Think about their safety.

What if he doesn't find a job? You have moved him into your home. And he now has tenants rights. The eviction process can be long and ugly.

What if he and your husband decide they hate each other.

This is not the smartest or safest thing for your family. If he wants to move closer do it the right way. Don't put your family at risk.
 
Sorry, but I have to agree with the previous response. If your partner wants to move to be closer, the responsible thing is for them to save up money so they can afford on their own to move and get a place and pay their own way while they job hunt. Or better yet, take a short trip there to job hunt and have a job lined up BEFORE quitting the current job and moving to ensure that a short period of joblessness doesn't actually turn into "I couldn't find a job for months or a year."

If you've never spent any lengthy amount of time around each other, especially as a group this just has the potential for disaster. I think it's great that you all are making the effort to be near each other and turn an LDR into a non-LDR, but it's better to plan for the worst and hope for the best than just assume everything is going to go exactly as you want. Life rarely works out that way.
 
Agreed. You have no idea if you can live together with your LDR partner, nevermind whether or not everyone else can.

A new person in a household seriously impacts everyone else, from the little things (why are you putting the glasses there? Why do you air dry the dishes when we hand dry them? Why do you hang the toilet paper roll in the unholiest of positions?!) to the big (I have no privacy / feel like I can't enjoy the common areas anymore / but I ALWAYS watch WWE - what do you mean you need to watch American Ninja Warrior?!). You and everyone else in your household (including the new person!) will have these issues.

As for moving in impacting your personal relationship with your LDR, back in college, becoming roommates with someone was the "friendship test" - could I actually stand them after living with them for three months? In some cases, hell no.

I agree that it'd be best to have everything lined up first, then EASE into this. Good luck.
 
(See! I *knew* I would hear "Don't do it!!")

I don't know that this makes things sound any better but my LDR (whom I shall call Ray) has been overseas for a few years working for a company that went broke, thus his having to come back with no money and no job. His hometown, where he is now, is thousands of miles from here and while he has been determined not to show up here as a deadbeat it really makes more sense to me and my husband for Ray to do his job search locally.

The plan had been for him to have something lined up before coming here but the death throes of the company kept him overseas a month longer than expected. I have been through two winters of his Seasonal Affective Disorder and while he is accustomed to the struggle I would rather not see him go through another harsh winter up north. We do not anticipate his job search to take long as he is an expert in his field which is in high demand in our area. Nonetheless he has been making some initial job contacts already through friends in the industry.

I met Ray in an online community where we worked on various projects together as well as being social alone and with groups of friends. We were friends for months before realizing, somewhat to our dismay, that our relationship had become more than that.

We have spent 3 hours or so on face to face skype many days for a large part of the two years and been running a text conversation back and forth during the rest of the day we were both conscious. He has hung out in this way with my husband (whom I shall call Tam) and kids. Tam and Ray have together talked me through emotional difficulties as well as double teaming me when they agreed I was really screwing something up. When I was frightened that Ray might be suicidal, from the SAD coinciding with a bad spot for the company, Tam called him and talked him through a mental check up. The two of them are very similar in their thought processes and hobbies and both consider each other close friends.

I have gotten to know a couple of Ray's friends a bit. I have traced his background back more than 20 years through online sleuthing into old blogs (his and other people who mentioned him), bbs archives, and public records. When he visited for a week we all got on famously and he helped with the kids when a crisis arose with my side of the family.

I am nervous about him moving into our home, even temporarily, despite all this but I have trust issues generally. I can get watchful even of Tam though I have known him for over 20 years and practically grew up with him. If Ray is some kind of manipulator he is a master and has covered his tracks well as I can find no evidence of his being anything beyond the person I believe I know. I could find myself in Red Pepper's shoes someday but at the moment I don't think I can predict that any more than she could.

He and I are in accord that his stay with us is temporary and he will be finding his own place as soon as he can. I suspect he will be anxious for some peace and privacy after not long here. If we have serious enough problems he has a few friends in the area he can probably stay with.

My main concerns are interpersonal and practical, it has been over a decade since we have had a housemate and of course the emotional issues will be different than that.I have seen that any number of people have had their LDR move to be near them and hope to profit from their experience.

Leetah

P.S. Ray's caution about not jumping the gun by moving here while under the influence of NRE, as well as his loyalty to the friends in the start up, kept him from coming back any sooner. I feel I have been waiting over a year to be with him and find out if this relationship is what we think it is. The long distance has been awful for me for the whole two years.
 
First comment: tell me your kids are Suntop/Sunstream and Ember. ;)
(I meant to comment on your username before, but now I just HAD to...)

Second comment: do you have a space that you can cordon off, so that you will all have privacy from each other, if it's warranted? Maybe making the cellar (or something similar) into a "Ray Space" will help with being on top of each other and reduce potential conflict.

I get that you've all worked well together in the past and supported each other, but moving in with new people is always difficult, as is mental illness and ANYTHING you can do to minimize issues will be good.

Also, you may want to make yourself aware of local landlord/tenant law. If he's going to be an extended guest in your home, he *may* end up defaulting to "tenant" status, giving certain rights to him and responsibilities to you. Be aware of what you're getting yourself into.
 
I figured *someone* would get the name reference! It seemed apropos though I had to puzzle for some time over who would be Tam and who would be Ray.

I have been trying to figure out how to get Ray some space here where he can go and shut the door, there are a couple smallish areas he might be able to use. Despite my overwhelming desire to have him as close as possible as soon as possible we all still can take time to discuss if we should be finding him a friend with an actual guest room he could stay in for at least part of the time. He is staying with a couple different people in his hometown and that may make him realize the benefits of a room to himself over couch surfing.

I know that extended guests can come under tenancy rules as someone in my family had that problem in their town. I have not looked to see what the rules here are but I guess I will.

Thanks,

Leetah
 
Awwww! You guys are being *too* practical! ; )

Having him stay elsewhere might be doable but more awkward (as I would have to drive him to and from every day, if his friends' places are even close enough) and frankly, disappointing. I have longed every day for nearly 2 years to have this man where I could touch him and his visit only reinforced that desire. To have him come here and yet still be largely unreachable...!

We will all talk of it more to see if we think we are being too sanguine but I really think we know enough about each other to try having him here. He can certainly sound his friends out about crashing at their places so we know what our options are.

Leetah
 
Depending on where you are, there are no tenant's rights issues if you share a kitchen and bathroom. You can evict with no notice.

I have to agree I wouldn't move someone I didn't know pretty well in with my children. How much physical time have you spent with him? I did allow one of my partners to move in, but we had been dating for nearly a year and spending at least two weekends a month together and it was going OK. And I still had several panic attacks before he actually did move in and I saw that it would be OK.

I am not used to having someone else in my space, plus issues about sharing bills and the like. It's certainly been a learning experience.
 
Hi Leetah,

I see that this is something you want to do, and I will not tell you not to do it. I will, though, state the obvious and advise lots and lots and lots of caution. Cover all your bases and have all your options ready to charge up at a moment's notice. By no means does Ray have to be a bad person to make him hard for you to live with. And it may be hard for him too, even though I'm sure you guys also are good people. You need not only live-together compatibility, you also need adequate stores of privacy, and some people need more privacy than others.

I don't mean to scare or lecture you, I only hope to remind you of what factors and precautions I could think of. I don't think anyone (I in particular) could think of all of them, so, more heads working together on the potential problems seems to me a good thing. At best I think you will find it challenging to live together, and at worst, well, we won't even go there unless we have to. You said he got on well with you when he visited for a week, so I'll count that as a good sign.

Will you keep us updated? I hope all goes well.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I can see that you've been doing a lot of research. I believe it will help.
 
My LDR of two years plan to move in with me and my husband in our two bedroom flat. Not permanently but to work in my town for a couple of months. We have not lived together all three of us before, but I had lots of visits, including a monthlong visit to him on 2 occations, also he came here for a month. The longest the tree of us have stayed in the same house was 2 weeks.

We have no kids. The plan is that I will have the bedroom, and the boys move between the bedroom and the office/guest bedroom every other night. We also have a kitchen, a big balcony and a spacious living room with a sofa bed. I think him coming here will be a bit strange, but after 2 years and many visits I do feel like I know him (we also Skype, but little these days due to his job), my husband have also met him 4 times. Otherwise I would not dear to have him move in. Also, for him to stay for more than 2 months he needs to be able to support himself! I am broke after 2 years of long distance visits, and he has loans that needs to be payed, so although I will pay his tickets and he can stay with us for free, I need him to contribute on food and everyday expenses. Before he comes, we will use our time and money to fix everything practical that needs to be done, so that life will be easier and he will feel more comfortable. He has his own friends in my town, and he will stay at work a lot, so hopefully our flat will be enough space for him. I recon that we sometimes will have the flat to ourselves because of my husband's shifts. We also plan to make use of cheap hotel rooms if we feel like getting extra privacy during his stay. He knows the location and original set up of our flat - in fact he viewed it with me instead of my husband (who bought it with me without having actually seen it). The area is close to the city where he will work, while at the same time being close to nature. We also plan to buy bikes that we all can ride. We all like and need a bit of privacy/solitude but we are also social.

We know how to cook: either me, or my husband, or my boyfriend and me will cook. Husband can't cook with anyone else, that doesn't work. But our taste in food overlap, an we enjoy eating meals together. Me and boyfriend like to make dessert, which we all like to eat. I like to bake cakes, none of the boys do but they will eat them. We are all rather clean and tidy people, although I do that handwashing and ironing. We all like biking, walks, dinners out and watching movies. Boyfriend and I like cats (and have one where he lives), husband tolerates cats at best although he can be charmed by them. We all like dogs although I prefer the fluffy or small ones. We all regard each other as family and are activelly planning a future together that, in some way, will include children and pets. We talk about our feelings and plans all the time, boyfriend says he likes our style of openness and honesty. Being open about our poly relationship is a challenge, especially vis a vis family, although we are working on finding a balance between discretion and sharing.

One challenge I see with him coming here is that he will possably work some evenings and weekends. I already resent my husband working some evenings and one weekend a month. I work mostly daytime and only occationally evenings or weekend. I figure we will need a good calender to keep track of when everyone will be working - as well as other things. I also think there will be some transitioning issues since he doesn't know the language very well and my country is still rather new to him. I will try to be understanding, help him with language and introduce him to our social network.
 
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