Needing advise on how I should of handled a new relationship

stellarcloud

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Hello everyone!
(WARNING: long story)
So, I just want to start by saying that my husband and I have been exploring polyamory for about a year and half, and most the exploring was done on my side. We have been in a relationship together, mostly monogamous, for 15 yrs(started dating as teenagers). We have a very close bond, but I have always been interested in opening our relationship and had discomforts with monogamy for all my life. He however, has not been on this same page until recently. I have casually dated two other men in the past year and half, never anything serious, nor did I intend such. Which for me is very easy to do, because I am not very quick with intimacy and usually lean more toward friendships that have some physical intimacy occasionally.
However, recently(year ago) I met a girl and started a friendship with her and she too is poly.Then I invited her to join our art collective(my husband, myself and some friends started). She and my husband started talking, though to my knowledge at the time was infrequent. Then one night at a party she asked to kiss my partner and I happily supported the idea. After the party she started a dialogue about how she could help him open up more and how she was interested in casually seeing him, in which I agreed. Anyways, within the next 3 weeks, they began dating and it got very serious almost immediately. She even broke up with her then 2 year boyfriend and the couple she was seeing. I also, got word from mutual friends she was calling him her boyfriend, and i noticed she got stand offish with me and so did my husband. They even would say they were going on a date and he would then conveniently have to stay with her for some reason or another. After about three weeks of this I began to feel very uncomfortable and began to ask for a break from this or to slow down. Her and I were in conversation through this, but she always seemed to side with me, but then would act out the opposite when I wan't around. In fact, they would be together holding hands through group meetings, she would follow him to dinners we had, etc. and when I began really protesting this, my husband would kind of guilt trip me by saying I was the one that asked for this, and that in poly I can't put restrictions on his form of love. She also began stating that i was neglecting her autonomy(usually through him). At about a month this led to me and her actually arguing..almost fighting(verbally). Come the following month we agreed to try to work through this, they still were dating actively, but my concerns continued and new things were discovered and she was not honest about them when I asked about it. She even began telling one of my friends very personal things about me, she had learned from my husband. At that point I had had enough and stated I was no longer interested in any of this relationship.
By the end of the second month they separated and now my husband and I are still together,and he does recognize his wrongs in the situation, but I am still confused. I never knew this could turn so insane so quickly and I don't know how to wrap my mind around it.
 
I'm sorry.

Sounds like it was a poly hell kind of experience and maybe even a cowgirl trying to rope him off or getting obsessed?

It doesn't sound like you had a problem with them having a relationship at first.

But like it BECAME a problem when (you + husband) were no longer getting time on your own. Like with her following him around out to dinners that were supposed to be just you two.

Or a problem with info management issues -- you tell him private stuff, he tells her, and she blabs elsewhere.
my husband would kind of guilt trip me by saying I was the one that asked for this, and that in poly I can't put restrictions on his form of love.

What is his position on that now that he's not in NRE with her? Is he now able to see that you are not trying to restrict his form of love, but keep time management agreements straight so you know what you can expect from his behavior?

  • If he is supposed to be home at X o'clock? He is home by x o'clock.
  • If it is supposed to be (me+ wife) dinner date time, and GF is insinuating herself making it be a (me + wife + gf) time? He asks GF to stop this behavior.

Could call it a learning experience. Hopefully next time isn't so wacky.

Galagirl
 
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Hey stellarcloud,

I think it's true that in poly, things can indeed quickly turn insane, unless everyone is very, very careful. Hopefully you and your husband have both learned some things about reasonable boundaries, and will have better poly experiences in the future.
 
Yes, my husband realizes that she was a little...well..kinda not all there. However, he does feel he had a real connection with her, but thinks that he probably fell so hard because of his frustration with my success outside the relationship and having to always be on the outside. So for him he wanted to just jump in, eyes closed. Plus, he wasn't very educated in this, and she was, and she knew how to use the lingo in her favor and he was eager to back what he wanted to see at the time. I personally felt slightly guilty too for having my experiences and this being his first time, I was too quiet as well at first. Knowing how important conversation is, I still failed too. Plus, it didn't help that i had also been convinced she knew best, at least for the first two weeks. I am glad to hear this isn't unusual or that maybe I am not actually doing poly wrong. BTW, to answer the time boundaries. She seemed to be Ok with that later and so did my husband, but then stated it was unethical and was very emotional about such. Which made my husband very uncomfortable as well as me. Which was part of what led to the ultimate end.
 
Connection based on the high of brain chemistry?

http://www.youramazingbrain.org/lovesex/sciencelove.htm

NRE can be fun, but I think it is best to make no major life changes or decisions in that at time frame. Because it is basically a head trip. Not anything substantial. That comes later. NRE serves to keep you together long enough to forge those more substantial bonds. If there is nothing there, it tends to falls flat after the NRE wears off in 6 mos to 2 years. You only met her a year ago so I gather their dating time was less than a year. So likely he was caught up in NRE. Now he knows to watch out for that. Enjoy it but not get blinded by it.

I do not see how it is "unethical." Hubby has a wife. He spends some time alone with her. Hubby has a GF. He spends some time alone with her. That seems fair to me. Maybe she was an NRE junkie wanting to be with him all the time to fuel her hit? And she thought you stunk because you were "keeping her" from her high?

I think you might be right in that a she was more familiar with the lingo and maybe spinning it to support her lack of respectful boundaries. Too enmeshed sounding... Getting too tight too fast.

I get that hubby may have been eager to have an experience at last since he envied you having yours. But it is not a race. Your other relationships will unfold how they will. They simply will not come tit for tat. Ykwim? Both of you could relax on that front.

Could also keep in mind just because someone one has been practicing polyamory longer than you it doesn't mean they automatically have better skills and have been having good experiences in that time. It just means they have been doing it longer than you.

This is fresh. It is ok to feel discombobulated. In time you both will heal and feel better. Hang in there!

Galagirl
 
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