newbie advice, please?

comoelmar

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I'm involved in my first poly relationship. My new partner (B) and I have been dating for about 8 months, and we are in love. B is absolutely one of the kindest people I have ever met; he is a good, good person.

Both B and I are married to other people. B's marriage is in great shape; his wife (A) is also partnered to J. B, A, and J spend a lot of time together. I like A and J but don't see them all that frequently, because my sense is that B is not yet entirely comfortable with me socializing with them yet.

My marriage is rockier, and my husband N is not particularly social. N has hung out with B but only occasionally. They have gotten along well.

That's the backdrop.

B and I are able to spend time in person together one or two times a week; it's always amazing, deep, heartfelt communication with great sexual energy. We have crazy stuff in common and love enjoying those activities together. Every encounter deepens my connection with B. When we are together, B and I are present, connected, and totally on the same page. I'm okay with the level of in-person interactions. Both of us have kids, and our lives are busy. More would be nice, but it's doable as is.

The problem is the rest of the time.

When we are not together, we tend to chat online, email or text. We do this everyday, and almost every night. These interactions can be connective (and so wonderful!!) but are often get superficial by B, along the lines of: hope you've had a good day! etc, with no emotional engagement. He's busy, and tired, and less intense than I am.

While it's nice to check in, exchanging pleasantries drives me nuts because, for me, it dissipates intimacy. I'v talked to B about that; and we've tried various ideas to make it work; including, not checking in as frequently and making sure we're using a a full keyboard, rather than a phone. Those have worked on and off.

This weekend was so hard. Weekends are difficult for me because the unstructured time with N right now is challenging. I've told B this. B was off having a great time, hanging with A and J one night, A and the kids for two other nights. There was no meaningful interaction between B and me any of those days, though B thoughtfully sent me some photos and sent quick messages each of those days.

I'm jealous of the time B, A, J spend together - jealous like a kid not invited to a party. I know this is my problem and I am working on it, and it feels manageable.

But mostly, I am *so angry* about the lack of time and space for meaningful interaction. I feel cast aside and disregarded.

I don't think my response is reasonable, but I am angry and sad, and lonely, and looking for some perspective. Thanks.
 
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If you feel like his text communication is lacking emotion then talk on the phone instead.
 
Hi comoelmar,

What's making your marriage with N rocky? Is there anything that could be done to improve that situation?

I take it you'd like to spend more time with B, A, and J together (as a group)? What if all five adults (with the kids) lived together in the same house? Has that idea been discussed?

You're probably still in the NRE stages with B and when you're in NRE, you just can't get enough of the other person. So some of this may get easier with the passing of time.

How much of your feelings have you discussed with B? How much does he know?

I hope we can help.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Thank you for the responses. I think my biggest concern is gauging whether my emotional response is common, relatable, reasonable. I don't think it is reasonable, but I am not sure how to correct it. Writing about it helps, I suppose.

None of the 5 of us created our lives as poly people. So, we are stuck co-existing in inadequate structures that won't accommodate living together. Though, ultimately, that's a dream!
 
I would offer this perspective: I suspect that a major part of your feeling of being left out is because you are not happy with the relationship with your husband. So when B isn't around all you feel is this huge lack. Since his marriage is good, he is happy when with his wife and happy when he is with you. It is an enviable position!

While I get that the obvious answer seems to be to spend more time with B to get what you are lacking in your marriage, but it is not up to other people to make us happy.

I know, because I have been there, albeit the scenario was different. The Philosopher and I are very close - emotionally and intellectually. However our lives are very separate for reasons that I won't bore you with. Our emotional closeness makes me think in terms of "we." However the necessary separateness was causing me some cognitive dissonance, because there is really no way for us to operate in concert at the moment. I had to accept the fact that despite our closeness, we are two separate individuals with two separate lives and it is not his responsibility to call, text, see me, etc. When I mentally changed my expectation away from the idea that are lives were somehow supposed to be joined when they really aren't, surprisingly, although his behavior hadn't changed, I found him to be very attentive. Ironic, yes?
 
I tend to agree with bookbug; that is, things being out of joint with N is probably making it harder to spend time away from B.

Emotional responses are neither reasonable nor unreasonable. They issue from the heart, not from the mind. The mind can be logical. Emotions can't.

What emotions can do is echo the emotional environment. You have a certain freedom to affect that environment. You can moderate your thoughts, and you can make choices that will tend to lead to a better emotional environment in the future.

What is missing in your environment right now? What (if any) thoughts do you engage in that are counterproductive? What can you do to change/moderate those things? These are the kinds of questions you'll want to pore over as we proceed with this thread.
 
Thank you bookbug and kdt! You both are right. And it really helps to hear your perspective. Thank you for chiming in.
 
Glad to help; hope we can continue to do so. Keep us posted on how things are going.
 
You are most welcome!
 
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