Poly after infidelity -- Oh what a wicked web we weave.

ossie99

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"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”. -- Winston Churchill

The following is my story of how NOT to do poly. It's my hope that we can find a way thru this with advice from those that know better.

DG and I met 10 years ago. Our connection was instant and intense. Unfortunately, DG was in a relationship with someone she loved and cared deeply for. For 3 years DG toiled between her 2 partners, both of us asking for exclusivity. At this point, the idea of Poly was an unknown. In the end, the boyfriend walked away from the relationship with DG, severing all ties. They would never speak again.

The scars that were left from this experience went down to the core. As much as I could love her, it never filled the pain she felt from losing him. It was the darkest/most inspired time in my life.

I swore that I could never go through that again, until now.

About 4 years ago, DG and I began to drift. We closed our restaurant that we opened together. We had a miscarriage. We were both suffering from personal and professional induced depression. In the end of that chapter, we decided to move away from our friends and family to "start a new life" together. Well, like they say you can't run from your problems.

I began working nights at a job well below my skill set. She took on a very large project working lots of daytime hours. We rarely saw each other. As she grew into her job, confidence bounded. I was still in hiding.

As you can imagine, she began a relationship with one of her co-workers (this is how we met 10 years prior). Their year long affair began slowly, but as feelings between them intensified, she finally felt like she had to come out about it. They were in love. That said, she Did/Does still love me, and I her. We are/were best friends and lovers. Unfortunately, we both bore a great deal of resentment for the other as the challenges of life led us astray.

I was devastated upon hearing the news. I couldn't believe we had fallen back into the same situation that brought so much pain into our lives.

This time, however, I made a very conscious decision not to force her to "choose" between us. I/We started going to sex-positive meetings, I've read every piece of literature I can get my hands on about polyamory/poly-fidelity. We started seeing a couples counselor who specializes in non-monogamy. etc. We are talking and communicating better than we have in years. I think it's finally dawned on us that she has always aligned Poly. I mono.

Another positive unintended consequence of their affair, is that it really forced me to look at my life and the road blocks I made for myself. With a new sense of determination, I put my energy into getting the life I wanted. I fought for and got a TOTALLY AWESOME NEW JOB! It has huge upside potential for me. i.e. financial security, the ability to buy a house, great daytime hours. I look and feel better than I have in years.

But...I'm not so sure that the person I love is the person who I get to share this with. I've expressed my desires to keep the life promises that I made to her so many years ago. Marriage, house, family, stability. Were both damn close to 40, so the kids thing is a kinda do or die situation.

She's angry and frustrated "why now?". I understand that, and sometimes it takes a lot of jarring to see the bigger picture of things.
Unfortunately, that's always been the way for us. We are both terrible procrastinators.

As I said, I don't want to force her to choose between us but I am making my intention clear. I want stability.

I want to support her and her other relationship but not at the sacrifice of my desire to have a family. Her BF isn't keen on the idea to say the least. Unless that child is his. He also aligns as mono. It seems outwardly, that he's hoping I will just go away. Not happening.

Unless, of course, the idea of DG and I and family has faded so far that it's no longer possible to her. She says it hasn't and I believe her.

But once again our timing couldn't be worse. She wants to explore her new found confidence and sexuality with BF. I don't want us to miss a window that could be closed forever to us, adding even more regrets and resentments.

I'm going to wrap up in saying that this is a very, very strong relationship. For some of you thinking that I am trying to trap her with the kids, family, scenerio you couldn't be more wrong. I value DG as a person over the the type of relationship I have with her. If we decided to go separate ways intimately, our friendship will still carry on until my dying days.

Thanks for listening. Any advice about compersion or rebuilding trust is gladly appreciated.

Ossie
 
Addendum

I will be meeting the OSO for the first time this week. My opening statement sounds something like this: "I pass no judgements on you, or the person you are other than to say that you must be truly exceptional. Otherwise DG wouldn't submit us to this given our history. Beyond that I want to spell out the unintended consequences of their actions (both positive and negative) and ask about his/their intentions. Anything else you can think of that might offer more perfect information so that we can all make decisions based on the known rather than unknown?
 
Hi Ossie,

I wonder if you could keep your first meeting with OSO on the light side? As they say on Dune, a beginning is a very delicate time. I think you're best off establishing general friendly relations before getting into heavy stuff like whose kid is DG going to have.

Re: compersion ... try these links:

Let us discuss the greeneye monster shall we?
How to slay the greeneyed beastie.

How To Contain The Green Monster
Jealousy, Envy, Insecurity, Etc.
How do you achieve compersion?

The Theory of Jealousy Management
The Practice of Jealousy Management

Jealousy and the Poly Family
Kathy Labriola: Unmasking the Green-Eyed Monster
Brené Brown: the Power of Vulnerability

Re: rebuilding trust ... is a simple but gradual process I think. You just need to see, repeatedly, that the other person can be trusted.

Maybe that helps for starters?
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I think you're better off walking away from her. Let him have her as a prize. Go find a woman 10 years younger have kids and live life to the fullest. Don't look back. She's excited about poly and is a serial cheater,you identify as mono. I see no happiness for you staying with her, especially since you describe him as mono, he will be miserable and constantly want to pull her away from you and cause drama. You've been doing great getting your life on track, finish this last bit by walking away from the bs she has wrought.
 
I am sorry you struggle.

Let me repeat back the highlights as I understand them, ok? You correct me if I am wrong.

After a lot of tumultuous cheating background, you are basically at this place TODAY:

  • This time you are the cheated on BF. You have to heal from all that mess.
  • You are pushing 40 and want to get on with your previous future plans.
    • You have a good job now and want to get on with doing the "house and kids" thing.
    • You don't want to resent/regret missing the boat on that. (<--- Sounds like you value this pretty highly)
  • You want to support her and her other relationship but not at the sacrifice of your desire to have a family.
    • So now you have to review if she is still the partner for you in your Future Life
      • Does she still want it in the same time frame as you?
      • Do you still even want it with her if she comes with BF in tow?
  • You want stability.

To me it sounds like you could ask her at what age she sees the "house and kid" thing coming on for her, and if she plan to have children by each of you or adopt or what? What is her PRESENT DAY thinking on that?

That is not asking her to choose between you. That is asking for clarification on what she would like on the "House and kids" front. Where does she stand TODAY on that? It is fair to ask for an update.

I think you could sort all that out before even bothering to meet Dude. Otherwise meeting him to ask him what his intentions/vision for a shared future is a waste of energy and "cart before horse" really. Maybe YOU don't want a shared future with him coparenting your kids.
I would cancel the meeting.

Ask her where she stands on the house and kids front, to see what she's able to offer you, if anything. If she refuses to answer? Or if her answer does not match your present day thinking on what you want for YOUR timeline? You could accept it is not compatible here.

(No Answer at all) and (Not a matching answer) is not (YES! All lines up, all systems go!)

Answer to your highest value. It sounds like (house/kids) is your highest value in that list. If you aren't getting it here how you like? Not likely to?
Then be friends, bow out. Heal. Then start seeking to build that kind of life you want with a more compatible partner who shares the same vision.

I mean this kindly, ok? :eek: I could be wrong. But you've been kinda "floating along" in your life from the sound of it. It's led to wonky places with regrets and resentments.

I think you could choose to become more decisive and create your own stability. See if that new approach to life will lead to better places for you.

Focus on this as the headline right now:

If we decided to go separate ways intimately, our friendship will still carry on until my dying days.

Then line up all these other things under that banner.

  • That frees you up to heal from this latest cheating affair.
  • That frees up to you to build the "house and kids" life you seem to value and want a lot with another more compatible partner
  • That allows you to support her in developing her other relationship with the new BF
  • That allows stability to come in for you over time.

Allowing the relationship shape with her to change to (friends) or (simply exes) seems like a better fit. To me that sounds healthiest way to go for you in the long term.

YOU can make the decisions about how you want to spend your life. Please do not choose to spend it in a new 3 years stalemate weird thing again because you are conflict avoidant. Only this time wearing the (BF who got cheated on) shoes instead. :(

Don't sign up for that. :(

Galagirl
 
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I know it sounds harsh, but ITA with graviton. I don't think she sounds like the kind of person you can build a family with and feel confident that she's not gonna pull the rug out from under you (well, you can never be confident of that, or shouldn't be, but she seems a bad bet). Wouldn't it be nice to find someone who you can build a life with without having to make all sorts of compromises for their significant other? It sounds very one sided to me.
 
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