Questions of confusion, polyamory, and unicorns

SaintAugust

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Here's the situation: I am in a monogamous relationship that has been going on for more than a year. About a month ago, my girlfriend Pat and I realized that our closest mutual female friend, Paula, most likely had a romantic interest in me, given our observations about how she has been acting towards me, and the ever-increasing sexual tension between Paula and me that both Pat and I feel when all three of us are hanging out.

I think that this would be a fairly straightforward situation, as these things go, except for one thing. About a week before we started suspecting Paula had feelings for me, something strange happened. Pat and Paula are very close, physically and emotionally. They were cuddling on Pat's bed (which is normal for them) when Paula started kissing Pat. This took her completely by surprise, because to her knowledge, both of them were completely heterosexual. But it didn't just happen once. They were kissing on and off through the evening. Pat and I were very confused why that happened, and were going to talk to Paula, but didn't know how to approach it. Thankfully, what happened didn't change our interactions with her, and we all continued to hang out like normal. Then about a week ago, Paula kissed Pat again, when they were alone.

So now, Pat and I are trying to figure out what to do. It has become apparent that both Pat and I need to talk with Paula, but we aren't sure how. It is highly probable that Paula likes me, and it is obvious that she feels something towards my Pat, too. Whether this is just sexual, or maybe romantic as well, we have no idea.

Pat is hesitantly open to the idea of a poly relationship. I say hesitantly because:
A) She has never really considered the idea before.
B) She does not yet know how she feels about Paula. They are best friends, and very close, so the possibility that romantic feelings on Pat's part exist is there, hampered only by the fact that she has never had romantic feelings for a woman before, and doesn't know if she is capable.
C) She is afraid of losing me.

I have never considered myself poly before, but I find the idea of having a poly relationship with Paula appealing. There has always been romantic potential between her and me, but nothing ever came of it. What I do not want is to leave Pat for Paula. I say there is romantic potential, but I have no concrete feelings at the moment. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about her.

If it turns out that Paula does indeed like both of us, and is open to the idea of poly, then we would probably start "dating" her, to see if our close friendship grew into something more. But it's not like we are actively pursuing the idea of poly. It is one option among many that has been brought up, after much deliberation between Pat and me.

The problem right now is that we don't know how to bring all this up. I need to talk to her to figure out if she does have romantic feelings towards me. Pat needs to talk to her to figure out the same thing. Who she has feelings for will determine the next step. And what if she does like both of us? How on earth do I bring up poly without making her feel undervalued, like just another girlfriend (shortchanging her), or sounding like a pervert, or giving her false hope?

Paula is incredibly important to both of us, and the last thing we want is to alienate our friendship with her.
 
There is a lot written here on "unicorns" that might be helpful. It sounds like you might have some questions as to what might play out if you were to pursue this. If you do a tag search for "unicorns" you will find many threads.

As to approaching Paula about this, it sounds like she is sending a clear message, but maybe it's just fun, playful and sexual. Are you interested in a committed poly-fi closed triad, a closed vee, an open poly relationship with her? What are your thoughts? It would be helpful to know. Then you can start from there and ask her what her thoughts are.

It seems important in any poly relationship that there is some openness to fluidity, to things going where they may, and not having expectations and assumptions from the get-go, at least until such time as there is movement towards that. It seems many people get hurt when it becomes evident that the bonds that once were for all change to other combinations. Being aware and taking the time necessary to evolve is important, I think.
 
I think the first step would be to just sit down and talk to Paula. Acknowledge that she and Pat have been pushing unfamiliar boundaries, and you care too much for her to have any misunderstandings be the cause for anyone getting hurt. Ask her where she sees all the relationships going. What is she looking for? Hopefully that can open the door for further conversation about what each of you want.
 
It's good advice. I suppose I've been thinking that I need to confront her with a solution, or my feelings. But just genuinely asking her what she wants out of these relationships is a good idea.

As for what I want, if she is interested in poly, and Pat goes for the idea, I certainly wouldn't mind trying a poly-fi, or maybe a V that would turn into a poly-fi. As to who the pivot would be, I'm not sure. The thought is very appealing, but I honestly don't know if it's a good idea. I mean, I'm scared that it would not only ruin our friendship, but possibly ruin my relationship with Pat. I have a perfectly good relationship with Pat, and I don't feel as if I NEED another relationship.

But if the option was there, and it was good, I think I would try it.
 
What I find quite strange is that Pat didn't say anything at the moment that she kissed her. You make it sound like they kissed several times and Pat just went along with it, but now she's questioning what happened after the fact. I mean, huh? Was it a short kiss or a makeout session? It doesn't make sense to act as if their kissing was ... oh, I don't know, like she was just tying her shoelaces or something. Why wouldn't she have spoken up in the moment and said, "Hey! What's happening? You like me that way? I'm not sure how I feel about this..." yada yada. Really, now it's something to confront? Now you're worried about alienating her? Pat basically just let Paula have her way with her. You were both confused that night, but didn't say anything?

I'm perplexed! What's up with that shit?
 
I was wondering the same thing, NYCindie. Why did Pat just go along with it?
 
Trust me, I was wondering the same thing. Apparently, she was curious. The first time, she was caught off guard. She doesn't handle getting caught off guard very well. She freezes in that situation. But when it happened again, she decided to try it. She has told me before that she was curious if she could ever kiss a girl.

As to the types of kisses, they weren't making out, or hot and heavy. Just simple, gentle kisses, from what I've been told.

Anyway, this kissing isn't the huge part. It's just that, in conjunction with everything else. If there was no evidence that Paula liked me, Pat was just going to test the waters and talk to her when the moment was right. But since she does seem to like me, as well, which has become evident enough in the past week (before it was only a strong suspicion), it seems like something that should be confronted, and not just let it go where it goes. And by confronting, I mean seeing how everyone feels, and how everyone, especially Paula, wants these relationships to go.

As to why we didn't say anything, I found out about it after Paula had left. And frankly I was confused, excited, and a bit scared. So was Pat. One thing I have learned about myself, though, is that I handle these situations better when I am not running on strong emotions. So I decided to just wait it out, on my part. Pat said that she would talk to Paula when she was ready, because she had to work out her own feelings first.

Then school got in the way, and we didn't see each other for a while. And then, when we did see her, nothing seemed abnormal, so the immediacy of the situation seemed to lessen. Basically, it just dragged, with no one really wanting to say anything. Not the best way to handle it, I know that now. But we did, and now this is where I'm at.
 
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