Struggling, big time.

punkrockmomma

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I just noticed it's been five years since I posted on here, yikes! Boy have things changed since then. I am looking forward to connecting with people again outside of this difficult situation I'm talking about....thank you everyone in advance for any advice you offer :)

What can I say, my main squeeze and I have gone down our path in a rather difficult fashion.

We met on Tinder back in November, but due to extraneous circumstances in our lives didn't have our first date til a month later. He cooked me a wonderful dinner, we talked and laughed ( which included talking about non-monogamy) had passionate sex and he drove me to the airport in the wee hours as I was going on holidays for a month to see my poly family. We talked for another month, he picked me up from the airport when I got home, then we spent most of the next four days together and it was lovely.

My poly experience is mostly in theory, most of my poly dating/relationship experiences over the last ten years have not gone well. My love and I have never been monogamous, he's not the best communicator so there were a lot of things that went without saying...and admittedly I did not ask enough questions. Which leads to where things have been a rough struggle for a month now.

My main squeeze was fluid bonded with another woman and gave me an STI...there was a huge amount of fallout in his life because he was seeing four women. He was honest with me, took me to the clinic, filled my prescription and yeah. We blew out badly over lack of transparency and it got pretty ugly, we took a breather for a week, talked and got back together again. Unfortunately for me the STI issue dragged on because I was unresponsive to the first round of antibiotics, two more rounds and a month later and I'm finally clean.

My love only divorced a year ago because he was in a monogamous relationship and he's not a monogamous person. Unfortunately he still has many monogamous habits. He jumped into poly head first bit off more than he could chew. Which is where our next crisis happened..... I'm an accounting major, I offered to sort his work receipts for him, and came across an expensive ring purchase on Valentine's Day when he said he wanted to be alone. I have a fair bit of anxiety, I also am diagnosed with PTSD and depression. I wound up fast, I was shaking and wanted to leave after finding the receipt. He calmly said I'm going to help you through this, and came clean with me. He was overwhelmed and didn't know what to do, and this is what happened.

Since the debacle with the STI we've been fighting a lot, we're both headstrong people with very different communication styles so it's taking a lot of work finding a common ground. He finds me interrogatory, yet he admits to being highly compartmentalized. I'm an open book and have no issue with any questions asked of me. He is making steps to assuage my anxiety and understand what I need, and I'm learning to frame my questions in a way that doesn't unsettle and put him on the spot.

Here's where I'm having trouble....the STI stuff cleared the herd, and it's now me and one other partner, the one he bought the pricey ring for. I asked him what she means to him because that's important to me as I want him to be happy, and he said I really don't know. They've known each other since high school, but only became involved a couple months before we met. She did not want a poly relationship initially, but he said that changed when they started spending more time together. This time is coming at my expense and he doesn't realize it. He's not good with scheduling at the best of times. She doesn't live in the same city as us, the jealousy pangs are riding high that they've spent the last two weekends together in NY.

Human nature is to take the path of least resistance, despite all of our difficulties he's continued to express wanting to be with me, and is making active choices to work on our relationship. I'm going to communicate to him that he needs to start devoting more energy to our relationship again. My love is terrible with time and scheduling, I do have to give him credit he's realizing this though and recognizing and acknowledging to me when it's affecting me.

My best friend and his wife have been poly for twenty years and have an amazing relationship, he's been coaching me through the rough spots with this. My main squeeze has messed up, he knows it and I know it. I'm not an easy person to be with either. I have a lot of trauma and abuse in my past, it's easy for me to project past events onto other people.....made worse because he and I have had to weather so many difficulties lately. As my best friend pointed out, this is new to him. He's recovering from a major monogamous hangover, but he is learning and you two are not making the same mistakes over and over again. Holy cow, this is hard though. I'm emotionally spent, and keep having to fight off old defense mechanisms. My best friend truly feels that if my main squeeze and I can get past all these hurdles we will come out the other side even stronger as people, with a very good relationship....it's just the getting there.
 
My best friend truly feels that if my main squeeze and I can get past all these hurdles we will come out the other side even stronger as people, with a very good relationship....

With due respect to your friend, none of this will change unless you change. You own up to a fair bit of responsibility, but most of your focus is on your man's undesirable behavior and his shortcomings. You can struggle your way trying to help him change, but the much deeper and lasting change would be in focus upon yourself and how you fit perfectly with all of this at this time. It's not about who is more messed up or who done who wrong, it's about seeing how relationships just cannot unfold as they do unless two people participate in full. The answer is never in trying to get another person to change or "see the light" but in learning about ourselves and what we need to change in us.

Again, this is not about blame, but this is all about you. People, especially intimate partners, only and always reflect to us who we are. You'll find no end of people who are happy to join you in pointing out his perceived defects, but what is most helpful for you in the long run is understanding how you contribute to all of this and learning about where you need to change. Do you have support and encouragement in this kind of approach?
 
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My best friend and I have actively discussed where my shortcomings are, and I've shared these with my main squeeze too. I didn't realize until him gently poking me that I was projecting past stuff onto him. When he said I hurt him by doing this I felt terrible, I wrote a long personal inventory the following day which I shared with him, and have been steadfastly addressing since.

There have been a lot of raw spots which I thought I'd addressed, ripping off the bandaid and being uncomfortable with this has been challenging to say the least. My main squeeze and I have really been working hard to understand one another better, and maintain autonomy and respect. Not going to lie, this feels gross, hard and scary. I know it's worth pushing through though.
 
I wrote a long personal inventory the following day which I shared with him, and have been steadfastly addressing since.

Punkrockmomma, this is a phenomenal step and a wonderful way that you and Main Squeeze can deepen your intimacy. Do you have other supports in this endeavor, people who are not directly emotionally involved? It often helps to have additional supports such as a therapist, support group, mediation sangha, yoga studio, 12 step group - all which give us perspective and community that can uphold us in ways that a relationship on its own cannot. It's also enriching to be with others who are open to the support that you can offer, as well.
 
I went the Al Anon route for many years, then progressed to therapy. I moved from Vancouver, BC to Boston a year and a half ago, implementing the same support system has been slow going. I did go to a mediation group with friends today, it really helped.

My main squeeze is still struggling with the concept that he now has multiple loving relationships, he's been on a trampage for the last year so to speak. No shame in that, it's just a challenging situation for both of us lately as he's now trying to find his footing in something he wasn't prepared for. It's been three years since I've been in love with someone....I've done a lot of work on my own, and now I'm having to work with someone who just like myself has a haute couture set of baggage. I was so angry and hurt over the STI and then the lying over Valentine's Day that it took me a bit to realize he was feeling guilt and shame over both, that for this to change between us he has to feel safe too.
 
Hey punkrockmama,

This is a minor aside, but how did you catch a STI from Main Squeeze just because he is fluid bonded with his OSO? Did you neglect to use condoms with him on your first and second sex dates?

You jumped into this fast... You went to his house on the first date instead of meeting in public. You spent 4 days together on your second date. Your NRE is raging. You left yourself vulnerable to an STI somehow. (Unless the condom broke, which happens sometimes, but rarely.) Why be angry at him over "giving" you an STI if you didn't make sure he was well gift wrapped before fucking?

I am glad you two are making progress. It's fine to be a "slut" but one must still take care of oneself physically and emotionally. Clear open and honest communication is a must. I am disturbed that so many people come here, say they are poly, and then reveal they themselves, or their partner, are conflict avoidant and terrible communicators.
 
My main squeeze and I have always used condoms, oddly enough I got pregnant with my son whilst using condoms when I was married. Crazy, I know. I'm diligent about gift wrapping, at least in the personal areas of my life...actual gifts, not so much!

Our NRE was totally raging, no doubt about that. It's something I recently addressed with him because of the hiccups we've been having....during our initial blow out we both sat down and acknowledged where we could have done things better. I'm not fearful of conflict and have been told I communicate clearly, my communication style works in other relationships, ours has been a challenge.

I have a poly family where we've cultivated a strong bond based on love and communication. I've done my best to carry this forward. Perhaps someone can offer me advice on something somewhat related?

I've always told my main squeeze I'm poly, I've shared stories about my poly family and how much miss them and the growth we've done together. He identified as poly to me initially, it's only recently he's really grasping everything. I've encouraged him to do some reading, shared my best friend and wife's relationship agreement, and have been trying to open up more of a dialogue about his other partners. He quite literally had a panic attack on Friday when faced with an issue with his OSO while I was with him. I just tried to be gentle and encouraging. I'm genuinely trying to rectify our mistakes and work with him to do so as well. When would any of you call it a day?
 
Hi punkrockmomma,

It actually sounds to me like you're pretty much doing all the things you should already. Just to clarify, in your first post here you speak of "my main squeeze" and "my love." I am assuming those are both the same person; let me know if I am mistaken.

Have you studied much about NVC? That could potentially be helpful for both of you.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
They are the same person. I've stepped back from the other man I've been dating as the situation with my main squeeze has been overwhelming for both of us.

I will definitely look into NVC.....thank you so much for sharing that information.

It was a difficult weekend, I had multiple panic attacks and barely slept.
 
Sorry your weekend was rough. I hope things get better for you. Glad the NVC info helps.
 
It was a difficult weekend, I had multiple panic attacks and barely slept.

This is serious and there's a lot more going on with you than just communication hiccups with this one person. Panic is deep seated fear mixed with deep seated internal conflict. A situation can spark panic, but the ingredients are in you. Whether you call it a day with him or not, this can be a really good opportunity for you to address some long standing issues that your relationship with Main Squeeze is bringing to light. Panic never comes out of nowhere.
 
I assume Main Squeeze has also been treated and healed from his STI, the one he gave you? Has he determined which of his other gfs gave it to him? Was it the one he gave the ring to, that he is still seeing? If so, has she been treated? Is he now using condoms with her?

I should have mentioned that being freshly tested for STIs is a common practice with experienced polyamorists when starting a new sexual relationship.

You say you have a "poly family" that you spent an entire month with lately. Is this the "best friend" you mentioned? A platonic friend and his poly friends? You don't mean a group of your own former poly lovers?

Despite saying you yourself have great communication skills, you say your former poly relationships have gone badly. This can happen of course. Lots of people I have dated seem great for a while, since in the beginning they are putting their best foot forward (to get laid or just to bask in my attention). But then they turn out to be selfish and careless of their actions towards others, or do things in the heat of lust that are unwise, or have low self esteem, or be too sarcastic, passive aggressive, etc., etc. Or maybe they are more boring than you thought, or too obsessed with their dog, or a hobby you don't share... it can be anything. You say Main Squeese is no good at scheduling. Dating is hard!

And now you've panicked over the ring gift incident. You have depression and PTSD. Are these related to your panic attack? Was it a bad childhood, and now you're being triggered by your bf's choices in buying that ring for another? Over his choice to date 4 women at once? Over neither of you being aware one of his sex partners gave him an STI? Over your bf being new to poly and making newbie mistakes that have harmed you physically and emotionally? Or are you currently panicking over something else? What is triggering you currently?

And now it seems your bf is also prone to panic attacks, having one while with you, over something going on with his OSO! Is that relationship going badly now too? Is he unable to handle conflict at all?
 
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