Everything is falling apart.

candyharlot

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My primary, A, and I have been dating for nearly two years. Started out open, were monogamous for a few months to figure out boundaries and structure moving forward, then when we returned we decided to go poly. We thought it would be more rewarding for both of us to have this kind of relationship, which he is wired for. His ideal relationship structure doesn’t look hierarchical but mine does. I said I would be willing to try his style (at it’s core it’s relationship anarchy) and see if it’s something I could handle. I did not, however, make any promises.

8 months later and I am not handling it well. This is my first poly relationship and I’m finding out the hard way that I have limits I didn’t even know I had, that I could never possibly predict. His other partner, C, is extremely different from me and as much as she and I try to overcome it and be friends, we just speak a different language and have such different perspectives. She and him have very similar views as far as poly goes, very different from mine (which are pretty conservative compared to some.) I’m reminded of this all the time by her.

After 9 months of them dating, things are serious and they’re in love (or at least, she is in love with him.) We’re now looking at her becoming a co-primary, which wasn’t something he said he was looking for but it’s here. The idea terrifies me and I’m not sure if it’s something I can do after all. I wasn’t expecting it to be this invasive, or feel this violated by his other partner. I am already struggling to be around her and she makes me highly anxious. She is a good person but she presses my buttons in all the wrong ways and vice versa. Seeing them being affectionate makes me feel sick. I have a history of insecurities and jealousy but it’s never been quite this bad.

A’s view of the situation is that I agreed that it was okay to have a co-primary and so he went for it. And he did let me know the relationship was progressing as it went along. I just didn’t realize what kind of progression it was until she and I started talking more. Now I’m feeling uncomfortable and like a lot of the boundaries A and I set up have been breached. And when I say I’m not okay with it, I’m pressured to become okay with it. Even if I just can’t. I recently told him that I think I have hard limits, and his response was, “I didn’t agree to be in a relationship with hard limits. All of your limits you said you would be willing to work on and that’s why I agreed to this.” And it’s true, I have worked on many, many of them and have been able to get past a lot.

An aside to all of this is that A and I are having an extremely hard time communicating as well. He is very very frustrated with me because I’ve been acting so insecure and terrified and his patience is thin. He doesn't listen to me at all when I'm upset lately, he just leaves or hangs up the phone. In addition, he has felt like I have attacked him over his sexuality by “demanding” sex from him (which I have never done, but he feels that I have), expressing anxiety over his acts with other women, and by getting upset when he rejects me 9 times out of 10. I feel this overwhelming unattractiveness around him that’s impossible to shake these days and I can barely even look at him sometimes. He has a high sex drive, I know it’s just me he has the problem with. He is having sex with C every time he sees her unless I’m around. He and I will sometimes go two weeks without any intimate contact and that is extremely, extremely detrimental to me. Sexual intimacy is the #1 way I connect with my partners. I know, it shouldn’t be. But it is.

We are currently in therapy but it doesn’t seem to be working lately. I’m not sure what to do at this point. Half of me thinks I should just lay out what I’m not okay with and the kind of relationship I want and compromise with him again on boundaries. My wants and needs have changed. His haven’t. His are just becoming more apparent since he’s with a partner who encourages him to do what makes him happy. And as he keeps telling me, "I don't think you realize how much I'm putting on the back burner to be with you." I’m scared of a lot of the things that make him happy, honestly. They aren’t things that help me feel remotely secure in the relationship.

I am not wired for poly and I have been trying hard this whole time to try to make it work for us but I’ve hit a wall. I am so far outside my comfort zone that I feel like I have no foundation anymore. I’m terrified and I’ve been getting sick every month or two because I’ve been so out of my mind with stress over this.

Is there anything that anyone can recommend that I do? I am so out of my depth right now and don’t have many support systems I can turn to that won’t leak into my social group. I'm sorry if this is scatterbrained, I've been crying most of the day. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
 
End the relationship.

You are apparently not happy and neither is he, so why continue to make each other miserable?

You two are just NOT compatible. It doesn't make you bad people just not meant to be partners. Bow out before he resents you.
 
End the relationship.

You are apparently not happy and neither is he, so why continue to make each other miserable?

You two are just NOT compatible. It doesn't make you bad people just not meant to be partners. Bow out before he resents you.

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Hi candyharlot,

Re (from OP):
"I wasn't expecting it to be this invasive, or to feel this violated by his other partner."

What makes you feel violated? I'm confused.

Re:
"Now I'm feeling uncomfortable and like a lot of the boundaries A and I set up have been breached."

Which boundaries and how were they breached? Who breached them?

Re:
"And when I say I'm not okay with it, I'm pressured to become okay with it."

Who pressures you, and how?

My overall impression is that A isn't treating you very well, or very lovingly. At the same time, you and he seem to be poorly matched for each other. I know "Break up" isn't the advice you're looking for, but it's all I can think of right now. You mentioned that counseling isn't helping either. How long has it been since the last time counseling did help?

I don't know how to get A to change. I suspect that he's about ready to break up anyway, so an ultimatum probably wouldn't work. As for C, I'm unclear on what you need her to change. Maybe if C joined you for counseling the counselor could help?

Sorry you're going through this. :(
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I'm with Dagferi, and I usually voice support for working through difficulties.

I read and re-read your post, but not once did I see that you were considering ending the relationship. Why not? Why isn't that an option for you?

You two do not sound compatible. It's okay that he wants more relationship anarchy style relationships. You tried that for a while (quite some time) and it didn't work for you. You know that now. It's okay that you want more structure (or you don't want poly at all!). Great. You can both get your needs met. Just not with each other.

You did mention that you could lay out all your new needs in the relationship and see where he stands with his needs. But then you added "and then just compromise..." He does not sound willing to compromise. Or at the very least, his compromises come with a timer and a resentment for choosing to put things on the "back burner" for you. YOU have been the one compromising all along.

Is it hard for you to voice your needs and be assertive? In this relationship, it sounds like he is not willing to hear them or be responsive. How about in other relationships in your life? Just a thought you might want to ponder on your own.

I'm really sorry this is hard for you. :(
 
Ugh, it sounds like things have been really crappy for you for a long time. However, a few things I noticed...

Firstly, there is no rule in poly that says you and your metamour (your lover's lover) have to be friends, hang around together, nor even like each other. So, why do you put up with her in your space, especially if their PDA's sicken you? And why do you feel like you're supposed to endure her when she isn't the kind of friend material that works for you? Stop that!

Secondly, my sense is that you've been too wishy-washy about what you want in a relationship, what is okay with you, and what is not okay with you, and I can see how your bf could easily bulldoze right over you. It seems to me you need to learn to be more assertive and decisive, and to follow through with consequences when your personal boundaries are disrespected.

That all being said, it sure sounds like your bf is being quite inconsiderate and douchey towards you. He's walking away from listening to you, dismissing your needs as unimportant compared to his, and generally telling you it's his way or the highway. So, I hate to say this, but if I were you, I'd head out on the highway.

Life is too short to spend days sick and crying over a man who treats you like shit, putting up with people you don't like, and going to therapy that winds up being a waste of time and money because your bf doesn't want to make any effort to be kind and helpful to you in this type of arrangement -- all over a relationship that isn't even three-quarters of a year old!!! Hon, really, open your eyes -- he is no prize. You can do much, much better.

Wipe your tears and DTMFA.
 
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I have co primary partners, they do not associate with each other. I spend half my time at home with nate and the other Half at Sam's home. My kids go with me and when im gone nate sees his fuck buddies.

Is that something that could work for you? Your partner goes to her house half the time and she doesn't come to your home? Then you don't have to deal with her and you're free to pursue other romantic interests
 
I have to also agree with the others. It's as if you think the two of you have to be together and that he has to compromise with you. He doesn't. It's quite clear that the only non monogamy that would suit you is an extremely hierarchical type which is fine, you just have to find the right people to do it with. Or just look for monogamous relationships.

Does any part of you think that you found him first so he should adjust to what you need rather than what suits her?

I get that you agreed to do what he wanted without promising you'd keep things that way, but did he explicitly promise that he would definitely do your hierarchical mode if the anarchy way didn't work for you? If he did, he is completely naive. It would be like a heterosexual woman saying that she would find a girlfriend if this relationship with a guy doesn't work out. If he didn't promise that, why does there seem to be an expectation that he would just start doing things the way you need them to be? Doing that means ending or downgrading another relationship he has built in the meantime.

I think the healthy way forward is to admit incompatibility and move on.
 
I think the healthy way forward is to admit incompatibility and move on.
Another agreement with this sentiment. You sound miserable in polyamory. It's definitely not for everyone. You need not devolve into finger pointing and bad behavior, just agree that this kind of relationship doesn't work for you and move forward, happy in knowing that you vastly prefer monogamy.




Two things about poly, tho:

I don't think people are "wired" for poly or mono or hierarchies or so-called relationship anarchy - those are just choices regarding how open a person wants to be with love. Opening your heart to whatever degree is an ongoing choice, not something that is in our genes.

There is no poly rule book and you never have to interact with metamoures, let alone witness their PDA with your loved one. That is entirely up to the people involved, but just so's you know - lots of polyamorous people choose not to have much involvement in their partners' other relationships.
 
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