The odd exchange
Golden was flying back from Seattle yesterday, which was a long process of several flights and connections. We were able to IM for a bit and well...things got weird.
I included the messages before it went off the rails and made the text red when it happened.
• Thursday
11/12, 10:57am
Golden
Good late morning!
11/12, 11:37am
Petunia
Good late morning! I just got out of a meeting.
• Thursday
Golden
Did you tell [son] his mom was going to pick him up at noon?
Petunia
No, I didn't know she was doing that before I dropped him off at school Wednesday morning.
Golden
Fuck... That really sucks.
When did you get [ex]'s email?
Petunia
Wednesday @ 1:06 PM
Golden
Ok, thanks for taking care of him.
How are you?
Petunia

I'm good. Writing up documentation at the moment.
Golden
Oh, fun!!!
Petunia
LOL
What time are your flights today?
Golden
I board in an hour and get to Chicago around 9pm.
Petunia
Okay

Was it a good trip?
Golden
I get to [our city] around 11:15pm.
Yeah.
Was it worth it for you?
Petunia
What? Worth it for me? Explain that?
Golden
Yes, was my trip worth it to you?
Petunia
Why would YOUR trip have a value for me? What would make it qualify as being "worth it" for someone other than you? What do I have to gain?
Golden
Are you ok?
Petunia
I'm trying to understand what you mean. Please explain.
Golden
I mean what I asked, that's it. My leaving had its downsides and upsides, which leads to the question of, "was it worth it".
Isn't that what you meant when you asked me? I am asking the same question to you, not about my trip, but the effect of my absence.
Petunia
It doesn't fit to reverse the question and ask me. I did not arrange for you to go on this trip. I did not pay a "cost" and expect a "gain."
I asked you if it was a good trip. I did not ask you if it was worth it, although, that would have been appropriate.
Golden
Ok.
Petunia
Are you feeling sad or sorry for yourself?
Golden
I did not think of my trip in terms of cost and gain btw.
No and no.
Petunia
Asking me if it was worth it, implies an action on my part.
Okay, I was worried you were looking at life all doom and gloom.
Golden
I was not implying an "action" on your part.
Petunia
Okay, it was just a very odd question then.
Golden
Thanks for telling me you were worried that I might be looking for "life is all doom and gloom."
Petunia
So, tell me one positive about your trip. smile emoticon
It sounded to me like you thought I was happy you have been gone.
Golden
Solitude was very nice.
I did not think, feel, assume or expert you to be happy I was gone.
Petunia
That can be nice.

Good, because I found it alarming that you may have thought I would feel that way.
Golden
Ok.
While I didn't think of that, why is the idea alarming to you?
Petunia
Because 1.) I never felt that way, and 2.) it smacked of "poor me" and depression.
Golden
Ok, thanks for sharing.
Petunia
Was it fun to see Seattle?
Golden
Yes. My friend Jim was very gracious with his time and money. He drive me around and showed me parts of town he visits.
Petunia
Sounds fun.
Golden
I really don't feel like talking anymore. I will be glad to be home and see you and everyone else.
I hope you have an excellent day.
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11/12, 3:49pm
Petunia
I'll be glad to have you home. heart emoticon
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11/12, 4:51pm
Golden
From your perspective do I normally look for doom and gloom?
Petunia
Hi. You seem to be in a negative cycle recently, but that could be my perception based upon the two of us having conflicts. You told me once that you sometimes like feeling melancholy and listening to sad songs, so maybe that also factors into my perception.
Golden
So I hear that lately you have perceived me as in a negative mood and when I asked you an odd question you assumed I had be also negative intentions? Does that sound accurate?
Petunia
The question was not just "odd". The word choice struck me as coming from a negative place.
Golden
So it was odd and you thought the word supported your assumption of my negative intent?
Word choice, I meant. Not just "word".
Petunia
It didn't "support" my assumption of your negative intent, it created it.
Asking that question of me, "was it worth it", would mean it (your absence) needed to generate a positive value for me, implying I gained more from your absence than if you had been present. Therefore from my point of view, the question you presented is negative in nature.
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I'm not sure what the meaning of "worth" is to him, because it seems his definition varies from the dictionary.
It also makes me realize why I feel so confused and turned around in discussions with him.
We got to see each other for a little bit this morning in the kitchen. He seemed good. I hope that this evening goes well - and the rest of the weekend, too. Taylor will be there sometime tonight - he's eating dinner with his friends at his college town before heading to our city. I expect it'll be 9 pm before we see him. I had planned on getting tickets to a concert for tonight for Golden and me, but I don't want to spend $75 on tickets + drinks. It's just too expensive. If we go out it'll have to be something less costly and will have to include Tay.
Bond said that M sent a text last night saying she'd be at the house around 7 pm tonight and may spend the night. Woot! I'm so happy for him.

She hasn't spent the night since August. I told Golden that I wouldn't plan anything for dinner tonight as he will have the day at home, so he could do the cooking. He was good with that. I'm hoping this will leave me time to change the sheets, clean the master bathroom, and grab the toiletries and clothes I'll need before she gets there.
Lying in bed last night, Bond and I discussed our to-do list. Top of the list is building and installing a sliding (barn-style) door, and buying a sofa sleeper so that we can have a guest room. He's excited about building the door. That surprised me. He says he likes that kind of work. That's cool. It surprises me, because I had gotten the impression that he's really hard to get to tackle projects. I think he works so many hours during the week that on the weekends he wants to do nothing. Plus, he tends to let the kids dictate his life and because he has them every weekend it means that little gets accomplished.
I got a little crazy paying bills yesterday (trying to knock credit card balances down.) This morning when I woke there was a text alert from my bank saying my balance had fallen below $100. Um, yeah, down to $13.24 to be exact, and by the time I got out of the shower I had another saying it was down to $4.81. Ugh. I hate when I do that! Monday Twitch's ACH deposit will show up in our joint account, but that's too many days away to take a chance leaving the balance so low so I needed to transfer from savings to checking (again.)
Irony: I need to buy birthday gifts and groceries for the special birthday dinner, so now I'll need to put those purchases on the credit card. I'll just tell myself it's the cha-cha, two steps forward, one step back. Still progress, right?