The story of Spork.

I have just two remarks.
  • How does your experience with Hefe fit into all that? Wasn't he also a man who was both a friend on the level of mind, and sexual with you?
  • A while ago you mentioned Zen was interested in tantra. Well, I am afraid it has the same problem as therapy - too expensive. But if you ever do dive into it, it will probably get you to confront and transform a lot of this stuff. It may not be your way of course.
Good luck :)
 
I have just two remarks.
  • How does your experience with Hefe fit into all that? Wasn't he also a man who was both a friend on the level of mind, and sexual with you?
  • A while ago you mentioned Zen was interested in tantra. Well, I am afraid it has the same problem as therapy - too expensive. But if you ever do dive into it, it will probably get you to confront and transform a lot of this stuff. It may not be your way of course.
Good luck :)

Um. Well, Hefe was, yes. And I think he had stronger feelings for me than perhaps I realized. Odd thing. I believe I may have taken for granted that while he enjoyed the fun and variety of having another lover, Fire is where his real passion is. I mean, she is his wife, they are beautiful together, and that's where the real love was. I felt like I was a loved and respected friend, with fun sex benefits, for Hefe. I now believe, in hindsight and after some things that Fire and I have discussed, that he might have had stronger emotional ties to me than I ever thought he did. I assumed that his emotional investment was REALLY reserved for Fire. And I was cool with that! Not jealous. Love Fire myself, so it only seemed natural.

And I can have that with someone, and call it love, and feel the sort of love I compare to a warm sunny afternoon in a meadow, but not "the bonfire."

It's actually a lot safer and more comfortable, but it also doesn't force me to grow. There's not the level of vulnerability and fear that is involved in a "bonfire" situation (which Zen eventually became, sometime last May and since then.) I don't tend to obsessively overthink the sunny afternoons, to worry and fuss and fret over them. After all...we're not burning my eyebrows off. It isn't scary.

I cannot for the life of me say why one person might set off "bonfire" level desire and investment, and another doesn't. I have no idea. I can't force it to happen, I can't talk myself into it because of reasons, I can't give it to someone because they deserve it. It's just there...or it's not. It has picked some really bad partners to affix to in the past, too, like Worm King. In fact Zen is the first time in my life where it seems like a good thing that I'm feeling this way, I'm allowed to, it's fine and good.

While I had great fondness for Hefe and for Analyst, deep respect, tremendous liking, and enjoyed our affections...in my heart I was closer to feeling the intense stuff for Fire. But I didn't really know how to express it. Honestly...still don't! Not really! The whole business was sort of emotionally complicated. Why on earth would the sense of "not my person" hold me back with Hefe, but not his wife? Maybe that isn't it. I honestly don't know.
 
I'm getting that, because you jumped into the "quad" idea, you're confused. Too many moving parts! Comparing one person's love for you to their love for another. Mistaking someone's "love" for "like." Etc., etc.

I'd suggest (and I could be wrong) that jumping from an abusive relationship to your "quad," with its complications and overlapping affections, kind of threw you. Now you're in a one on one relationship and the waters are clearer and you can see your way.

You imagine a V with your bf having another woman and feel you'd be jealous. You imagine a triad would work better if the woman was "equally yours." You are looking at how you'd even do kink (no sex) with others in the mix now. It sounds like you're well aware monogamy with one trustworthy partner, at least for now, is more healing and a better fit for you than polyamory, as you heal and learn to trust "men" and their "sexualities."

Just because we can doesn't mean we should. One has to prioritise.
 
I should be sleeping, but I can't, so I'm gonna write.

I feel...apologetic. I dunno. Like I've put some ugly and dark shit out there. I'm worried it's bothered other people who read it, and I'm worried that it has been hurtful to my Zen.

I wanted to pull these bad feelings out and line them up in front of a firing squad, but I feel like I've got them all standing naked against a wall, but I don't have a machine gun and my...this is rather awkward. What to do now?

Kind of part of the "I wouldn't date me" thing. I have a lot of problems. This is one of them. My marriage was damaging. Mags...you mentioned 2 years with a narcissist. I was 18, and it was 18 years, and while it escalated a lot at the end, there was bad stuff going on from the beginning.

I could tell stories that would give you nightmares. They give me nightmares occasionally. Suffice to say that I was punished for being a woman, emotionally, my confidence destroyed, until I tried my best to cut my own sexuality out of myself and hide it away. It was nothing but a weapon that he could and would and did use to harm me. Unfortunately, as far as I've come (and I have made progress) I'm not all the way to where I need to be.

I've pulled it out into the light of day and I've exposed it, I've confessed it, I've laid it bare. I've gone that far. At this very moment, I'm a little tired. I am trying so hard to regain my sense of fearlessness and shamelessness, and I've come a long way. But I want to employ the things I have mentioned, at the least some ideas I hope that Zen might help me with, and try to slay the demons.

If he's not utterly put off by all the shit that's in my head. I mean...I have a lot of baggage. This is all rather dramatic of me, hasn't it been? I wouldn't date me.

What already helps, a lot though... Zen's presence in my life. When we are close, when he tells me that he wants me and appreciates me in his life, when he loves me and sees me. He helps. His voice, even when he isn't speaking any words, is louder than the voice of the bad stuff. And, definitely some of my friends help me a lot, too. Fire, for one, and some of the other friends I know in the fet scene, really made me feel very loved this weekend. And appreciated. And confident in my place and in my sexuality and expression. Very, "I have a right to be here. And I don't need to hide anything from anyone." Not that anything too wild and crazy happened, I just felt very comfortable in my skin and in the space, and since it's a sexual place where I like to be expressive, it's all part of that.

So I was invited to a party where there will be a male stripper. I want to go because I like the person for whom the party is being thrown. I don't, however, have any desire AT ALL to interact with the stripper. But it's been said that will be...expected?...like "bring money to give him when he dances on you" expected. Um. Can I ask him not to dance on me? I don't want some nakedy guy I don't know on me. I would truly rather not.

I talked to Zen this morning at brunch about it. *sigh* He informed me that he has heard how this goes, and women can "do ANYTHING" to male strippers, and I should go, he encourages me to go, and I'll be shocked and horrified at what the women will do, but he asks me not to partake, in other words, to please not give the guy a blowjob. And says that if men were allowed to do things like that to female strippers, he'd go to more strip clubs.

... *sigh* I don't want to put my mouth on the genitals of any strangers. That is this whole disconnect. I am attracted to the person INSIDE the body. Not some random "hot" person. I don't get the "see, then want" thing. I don't do that. But that, and this is where my heart sinks into my stomach, is apparently how the rest of the world works? Or something? Even my Zen would be pretty enthusiastic about being able to do...things...with the strippers, if only he were allowed? And why on earth would I be horrified by what other people do? I don't care what they do. That conversation confused me a bit.

Full circle. I feel like I'm trying to play Monopoly and I'm the only one at the table with a handful of checkers and no idea what to do with them. Everybody else seems to know how this game is played, but not me.

About the poly situation I was in before, there wasn't stuff going on that tripped any of my triggers, or hurt me in big ways, or were like nasty drama explosions. Lots of moving parts, well, for as many people as were involved I think it could have been far more "complicated" as they say. It felt pretty comfortable, until things were deepening with Zen and going less intimate and connected with the others, until I felt like I didn't have a strong bond with them anymore but I was bonding hard with him. I mean, that's the long story short of it all. And I was worried too that being out literally ALL WEEKEND, every weekend, and paying almost no attention to my son...yeah, that was not alright. And I used to go Saturday down to Fire and Hefe's house and spend the night there and not come back until Sunday...after my Friday night with Zen... I was stressed about my time and priorities.

So yeah, I do want more...something...not necessarily sexual, though I would not mind a no-pressure exploration of that terrain if it comes naturally at some time...with women that exist in my world. I just can't commit to building something as Big Relationship Thing as what I'm doing with Zen. It would be more, friends with maybe benefits if we happen to feel like it. Big emphasis on the friends though. Girls who lift each other up when we're sad, who go for coffee or tea together. Stuff like that.

I'm gonna try to sleep now, I guess...G'night my friends.
 
Hate when I can't get to sleep at night, and I can't wake up in the morning. :mad:

Actually getting out of my bed is like torture. It's really warm and comfortable. But doing so when I could have used a few more hours of sleep...agony. I'm ok now though. Yay coffee.

Stuff happened this weekend. I was so tired of having negative and complicated feelings. Maybe it's chemicals but I don't want to blame chemicals, even though I'm trying to cut back the nicotine (vape) pretty severely, and I did see Old Wolf more times than usual last week, and maybe there was some drop from a lovely night Tuesday night with Zen, who in the heck knows. All I know is that I was struggling first with troubling thoughts and ideas, that I wanted to try and process, but then with feelings of depression and inadequacy and self-punishing shit, and then the sense that putting it all "out there" is just gonna make my lover and probably also my friends want nothing to do with me...with the fact that my kids didn't even recognize that it was my Birthday last Thursday, and my youngest got into some trouble...my life and my head felt like an unhappy place to be. And I get hit with the fear that if I don't try hard enough to be happy and pretty and good, then like on top of being an imperfect partner in other ways, I'll just be an emotional, dramatic pain in the ass. It's a nasty circle, but it feels like it's all in my head. Like I'm making problems where there aren't any. Again, no one else has issues with this kind of stuff, so I need to stop feeling and acting like this. It's not cool.

And I got the notice for my lease renewal, so at this time of all times, when I've made myself look like a crazy woman, I have to ask Zen, "So uh, you still wanna move in together in the summer?" so I can plan what my renewal term is gonna be. *facepalm*

Anyways. What happened this weekend. Game night at Voodoo Friday night. That was fun, we played a "build the board as you play" sort of haunted mansion board game thing. And then Cards Against Humanity until everyone was tired and ready to call it a night.

Saturday there was a pancake breakfast and raffle fundraiser at Voodoo for our regional bootblacks, who compete for titles or whatever...something like that. I'd been a "maybe" on all plans and events, contingent upon weather, but the snow has been later, and lighter, than anyone forecasted. So I went to the breakfast. Then I didn't really know what to do with myself in between the breakfast and the party in the evening. I said so, to several people, but no one had any suggestions. I was at loose ends and feeling moody and lonely, so I went to a park. It was sunny and nice out. I took a nap, then went on a nice hike. Killed a few hours that way...then texted Fire and asked if they were home and I could come over.

(I would have gone home, in between, but it's on the other side of town. I didn't want to go all the way there, and all the way back. Fire and Hefe closer to the club though.)

So I went over there, and I got Hefe to go out to dinner with me even though he wasn't hungry, just to keep me company, and had some really delicious (slightly expensive though) Mexican food at a cool new place with really awesome decor, like a dungeon with stonework everywhere and iron light fixtures.

So then, the party, and Fire and Hefe had got me a cake and some socks. I'm a sock junkie so that was a really appropriate gift. I had a very nice time, got some light electrical play in and some good company and enjoyable (if drunk) affection from a woman I am very fond of, and generally it was a very good, and very affirming, sort of night.

So about the stripper thing. I've decided what I am going to do. I'm going to try to speak to either him, or the event organizer (see if she can have a word with him) or something, before the whole thing gets underway, like maybe I'll get there early...the invite said to bring $10 minimum to give him...I'm going to give him $20 and ask him to bestow his charms where they'll be more appreciated, please, that I'm just a little standoffish of people I don't know like that and it's more uncomfortable than fun for me. It's a birthday party for a dear friend and I want to be there for that reason...but I am not comfortable being wiggled at and having a stranger project sex at me. Life as a woman is enough of an ongoing informercial for random dick as it is. I could be seen as some sort of a prude for this decision, but I'd hope in our fetish culture of "don't touch without permission" that my wishes would be respected.
 
Ew, your bf said he'd give head to a stripper? I'm kind of surprised... who knows what diseases she might have that could be transmitted orally, if she lets so many men give her head every day!

If going to a male stripper party sounds gross to you, don't go just to "people please." Their kink is not your kink, and that's OK, remember?

Likewise, thinking your recent posts may have triggered someone or somehow might turn your bf off, that's more people pleasing. It's your life, your blog. You have every right to air your thoughts here.

Otherwise... I think your bf is so good for you. And you are to be commended for finding the right teacher/mentor. You weren't ready before. All those years with Old Wolf, but it's done! You're free, and you can heal. And your bf sounds like a warm and nurturing guy, just the ticket.

I had a far less than perfect relationship with my ex h all those year too. And then, a mere 3 months after he and I separated, the universe brought me Pixi, when I wasn't even looking for something serious. "When the student is ready, the teacher will come!"

The only thing about your posts that bother me is you putting all men into one basket. "All men prefer porn," etc. That is such black and white thinking. You are extrapolating your ex husband to be an example of "all men."

Many feminist women for the past decades since the early 70s have been doing their best to raise feminist sons. It's an uphill battle, since parts of our culture do still instill old fashioned anti-woman morals into our sons. And old fashioned dads can undo much of the feminist mother's messages. Social change takes time.

But many of us have feminist partners. Take heart, it's not "all men" in all cases. Just sometimes, and too often. But good guys like your bf are out there! Despite his idea it would be fun to eat a stripper out.
 
I read the book "Come as you are" by Emily Nagoski last year after seeing someone recommend it on the board a few times (I think it was Opalescent). It's all about women's sexuality, the science behind it, how we all are slightly different, etc. It was really helpful and eye opening to me to read it. I think it would be a helpful book for you as you work through the stuff you've posted about lately. It helped me not feel so alone in the way I experience my own sexuality and it helped me feel like there isn't anything wrong with who I am sexually, which has been an issue for me the last few years. Since you have looked into sex therapists in your area, I thought that it might help to read a book written by one, even though you can't afford the one in your area.
 
Yeah, well...like I would like time in a happy-energy environment with my friend and her friends, right? But I don't want a guy I don't know wiggling his package all up in my space. It weirds me out.

Let alone to DO...anything...with or to him. A person that not only have I never talked to or got to know, but I WON'T be allowed to do so. I need to connect in some way beyond a body.

And really, my thinking wasn't 100% gendered, either, about men. I know women who love pornography, and who look at a "hot guy" and feel attraction. Hell, I feel like an oddball for not wanting to engage in some way with stripper dude! Right? So I'm only pointing to the male half to a point, as I've been told many times that "men are visual." But it's an argument that doesn't hold up well to logical debate. There is a lot of evidence that breaks it.

I have had thoughts I wanted to explain or explore, and I might give them titles like "stripper" or in the case of one I talked to Zen about yesterday, "Carrie Fisher." That was a great example of why I feel he is different from many men I've known and he is someone very special to me and I have more emotional trust with him, so he has a DVD of Carrie Fisher's monologue thing where she tells her whole life story. And he and I watched it, he had watched it more than once before. She is, in that, an older lady (I think it was from 2013) and she is on a stage, talking about her life. And Zen was really interested, enough to own the DVD and watch it multiple times and want to share it with me. Now my point there was that many guys I've known would not want to watch some broad go on about her life, they'd be more to the thinking of, "could you just be the hot young Carrie in the bikini? That's really all I need from you." I mean, we see it in the disgusting attitudes of our President Elect and in the gamer scandals of nerdy men going after women for trying to be part of nerd culture (gaming and comics especially)...and I read an article not long ago that talked about shows getting pulled from TV when they were made to appeal to boys market segment, but girls start liking them, because it's seen as "stealing" market share from the girl market....like we're programmed and trained from early childhood to live in different boxes and what narratives we're supposed to consume and emulate, and frankly, the fact that it is absolutely clear that Zen sees women, even pretty women, even sexualized women, even women who are aged a bit, even just...WOMEN, all kinds of women...as PEOPLE...with stories, with stuff to be interested in beyond some ideal of bodily sexual perfection...

That is a big damn deal to me. I told him that if some stripper or porn girl did a video where she talked about her life, most guys would be like, "why on earth would you think I'd care about that? That isn't what I'm here for." But if there's an exception in the world, it is him. He would probably watch that video, I would not be surprised.

So feeling that way about him really soothes my ruffled feathers sometimes.

Also, we've talked about some of the porn he likes and I am starting to get the sense that he is looking for people having experiences, and that what he usually watches has a bit more depth than "flimsy context setup followed by unflattering closeups on ridiculous faces and moving parts." BDSM porn for instance, sometimes has a charge to it that it even I have been able to get a flicker of. It doesn't come off as quite so super fakey as some of it.

Oh, and as for Zen talking about licking strippers, you know, I'm not sure he really thought that all the way through, Mags, except to feel like "yes, a pretty girl will pay attention to me for money...but I can't do anything but sit there and receive attention and I want more than that in an interaction." He wants to actually give, not just receive. In fact, damned if he's not the most giving lover I've ever known. So...I kind of get it, but it wasn't translating well to how I am feeling about this whole male stripper thing.

I read the book "Come as you are" by Emily Nagoski last year after seeing someone recommend it on the board a few times (I think it was Opalescent). It's all about women's sexuality, the science behind it, how we all are slightly different, etc. It was really helpful and eye opening to me to read it. I think it would be a helpful book for you as you work through the stuff you've posted about lately. It helped me not feel so alone in the way I experience my own sexuality and it helped me feel like there isn't anything wrong with who I am sexually, which has been an issue for me the last few years. Since you have looked into sex therapists in your area, I thought that it might help to read a book written by one, even though you can't afford the one in your area.

I am really glad to hear your positive opinion of this book. I've been thinking of getting it for a while (it has been in the saved for later section of my Amazon cart for a long time) so I'll go ahead and order it. Thanks!!
 
I was looking at some stuff on Etsy, and there's a person who uses a special paper with the religious prayer candles to make really cool ones like Beetlejuice prayer candles, and Nightmare Before Christmas and Addam's Family. I asked her and she says that they are actually store bought unscented prayer candles, and that is FANTASTIC because in BDSM wax play those are among the best and safest ones to use.

I'm super thrilled about this.

She makes sure to say that it's a special parchment paper and the colors really pop, not painted on the jars. I am guessing that it's applied to the exterior of the glass container with maybe a sealant like a Mod-Podge or something. I'm fine with that! I have some friends who are really into wax who would love this...
 
And just like that, I feel so much better today about life in general. Except that it is grey outside and kind of cold and damp. Feels like Washington, not Colorado. But the sun is supposed to come out later.

I have been gratefully receiving some affection and attention from some of the women in the community, so that is good. And I've gotten out to hike for the last two Saturdays in a row. Granted, one was walking in the snow with Fire and fussing about my issues and the other was hiking alone because I was feeling sorry for myself and at loose ends. But I'm getting some exercise in regardless. Yay, me. Regarding smoking...people ask me how that is "going" with the vaping and the quitting and all. Well, it's going well in that I don't feel I've broken my quit. I have cheated occasionally if I was around my ex but other than that, I've passed up plenty of opportunities, resisted many a craving, survived social situations that used to make me smoke like a chimney, and bought none of my own. I've done pretty well. Unfortunately my vape is making me not feel so great. When I use it, I get some sinus irritation and upper throat irritation. I've read that people sometimes have reactions to one of the two main ingredients in vape fluid, propylene glycol...and if they switch to an all vegetable glycerin fluid instead it's better... I'm wondering if that would help me? But my goal was to QUIT nicotine. So I've been trying, not quite cold turkey, but to reduce how much I vape. Since it has never been as satisfying as smoking that isn't hard to do, but then the cravings come. I've been fighting some of that. And my appetite is up, too.

And I suspect that maybe there is a chemical factor underlying the difficulty with my feelings I struggled back and forth with last week, although I am not dismissing the matters I talked about. Those are still...things...that need to be dealt with. And I am/will.

But Zen has said some very reassuring things to me in the last day or so and we had some time together last night, though it didn't go as we'd planned. We got a last minute plea from a friend to come down to the club to get group pictures done with her and her friends, on account of it being her Birthday coming up. She's the same one who has the stripper party happening, though that part is a surprise and she doesn't know about it (heaven save me from any such surprises ever being perpetrated by well meaning friends! But I think she'll like it.) So Zen and I went down there, we were both invited, and participated in the pictures. Between that and dinner, I didn't feel like we had the kind of time we usually need for sex, so we watched an episode of Sherlock and snuggled on my couch. I was still up later than I probably should have been but I don't feel tired today. I feel fine. I feel alive. I feel good. And I had leftover sopapillas from dinner last night, to eat for breakfast slathered in honey. If there is anything better than cinnamon sugar and honey, I am not sure what it is. I prefer that sort of thing to chocolate, actually, although I love fine chocolate, too.

(Godiva makes a cinnamon chocolate piece which is quite nice, best of both worlds!)

I digress.

Whatever was disturbing me right in the force has mellowed out some, for now. And Zen is making progress on sorting and dealing with his piles of stuff in his living room, which is something he needs to get wrangled before we move in together in theory and we are a "go" on the plan for me to renew my lease through late June. My plan is to try and squirrel away enough to overlap the end of my lease and the start of my new one by maybe a week or two, like set a target move date of June 15th to give me time to comfortably move and clean. There have been houses on the market that would suit our needs, usually at least one or two good options at any given time, in the last few months that I've had my eye on it. Usually in the summer there are more choices, as property turnover is higher in the summer, so hopefully we'll have some good options. I just wish we could find a private owner to rent from as opposed to a property management company. But that just isn't likely here. Most of the rentals belong to military members who relocate, and they hire PMs to deal with it. I just prefer to deal with the owners directly, they're usually so happy to have a good tenant that they don't even raise the rent every year. PMs do.

Next random rumination for this morning...

I was thinking about my ASMR thing. Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response, this thing where I hear people speaking and I zone out and get a weird euphoric trance like state from it. It's somewhat inconvenient when triggered by a salesperson on the phone reading from a script. Those survey people who call, and repeat over and over "How satisfied were you with the customer service you received today, on a scale of one to five where one is least satisfied and five is highly satisfied?" and they repeat the scale and what it means with every question.....ZONK. I find it challenging to pay attention to what they're even asking me. Only some people's voices do it though and only when they just GO and speak and say things that don't matter. I've thought about this, and in exploring ASMR videos on Youtube (totally a thing) I've found that some sounds that appeal to some people, like crinkly plastic for instance, just drive me up the wall. ASMR vids are either really nice or unspeakably irritating to me. But I got headwonked sitting in the waiting area at Supercuts waiting for my son getting his hair cut. The sound of the buzzing and clipping was sooooo nice. And then there's those summer days I remember when I lived in Iowa when I'd nap on the couch and I would drift to the combination of a light wind in the leaves of the trees nearby, and the neighbors mowing grass. Of course the sound of the ocean is very nice, too, and I love the sound of a thunderstorm...but I don't feel like recordings capture the experience of those natural sounds properly. And somehow this is all linked with a sensory experience of feeling certain things with my fingertips. The best is running the edge of a cloth or bedsheet, something with just a bit of texture, along my fingertip, back and forth. It's all near-hypnosis for me. I'm in like a state of perfect chill.

I wish I really knew just what was going on there. I am quite sure that if I had some kind of a brain scan done, there would be easily verifiable changes in what my brain is doing when under that effect.
 
It occurs to me today, as I have spoken to Zen about some touchy topics in messages during my day, that I should probably preface my rambles with the place I am in, to provide, as Eurus said on Sherlock last night, "emotional context." Sometimes I'm in a fine good place, I'm tootling along comfortably in life. Sometimes...not so much.

Last week, I started out ok. For whatever reason as the week progressed, my mood worsened, and as I beat my head against the brick wall of a topic that CAN be charged for me, I got more and more feelsy about it. And of course I wonder if physical stuff was involved. It's certainly possible.

Maybe I need to learn when to back away from something. But that felt like cowardice, only thinking about something when it doesn't hurt. Pretending it's nonexistent and packing it away unresolved...plus, by the time I reach that place, I'm low enough to just start LOOKING for reasons to upset myself. Depression-spiral behavior, though I try very hard not to get too deep into it.

Well, today I am in a fine good place, as I said before, and I can talk about anything. I'm not likely to be upset today. Today is good.

Oh and I just went to Walmart on my lunch break, got a good deal on a few clearance things, got enough soap to last me a while, it was super cheap and I liked the scent, I bought 24 bars of it. And I was looking for some shoes to wear hiking and exercising and unfortunately I couldn't find anything there I liked. They're apparently making sneakers with hard plastic bottoms and no tread now, because people...are trying to slip and fall and die?...I don't know. I don't get it. "Lightweight." It says. Yeah...and cheap, and not grippy, and bound to wear out quickly, and generally just cheap crap. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to have recycled milk jug plastic for the bottoms of my damn shoes, or whatever that is. I want rubber treads. Is that too much to ask?? Jeez, Walmart...
 
I'm going to do a risky thing and re-open my box of heavy duty jibba-jabba, to talk about a thought I have just had.

What really pisses me off about all my squicky feelings, besides the terror that I'm going to fuck up the best relationship of my lifetime just by having them, is the fact that I want to be sex positive. I feel like I'm charging at a brick wall with all my might and bouncing off of it here.

I just read a thing on fetlife by a photographer about a project she's doing. A gallery thing, with a coffee table book for sale, too. She's getting up close pics of women's genitals, combining them with flowers in reference to romantic imagery of historical literature. And I just sample-read the opening chapters of "Come As You Are" on Kindle, and there is talk of how regardless the appearance of your lady parts, there's such a wide spectrum of normal and beautiful. About how terminology, ideas, instead of being purely biological as they should be, got culturally warped into this dichotomy where men's parts were out in front, a thing of pride, and women's are hidden, for shame. I have always, since sometime in the vicinity of puberty, thought of mine as kind of gross and disgusting. It's really hard to think of that part of me as beautiful. Some women are. Those where there isn't much to see, a nice neat line, with perhaps a flash of pure virgin pink, nothing to look wrinkled or darkened or stubbly or anything like that. So I'm not wild about my body. I can join the club, despite how perfect so many of the girls on the internet look, I know that most women I know and speak to, are pretty critical of theirs, too.

I remember an instance where a photographer friend of Fire's was visiting. He was getting a collection of pictures of the clitoris, from many women, for an art project, and I was asked to participate. And I did. Mostly in the spirit of being a good sport and WANTING to be sex positive. TRYING to love myself, though it churns my gut. It made me really uncomfortable. The pics were so up close it was very anonymous, and I was able to see them all, but shame wasn't the issue. After a lot of processing I realized that the problem was, I didn't know the guy. He'd been really stand-offish the whole weekend, and came off almost like he was unhappy...in all likelihood it was some combination of introversion and altitude sickness. But when it came to the photo shoot, I was so uncomfortable...because this guy was a stranger. I'm uncomfortable at obgyn appointments for similar reasons. I don't like feeling vulnerable and exposed, with people I feel strange to and with. Like if they know me, I won't be judged on the merits of what they see, alone? I will get "kindness points" for familiarity perhaps?

But I'm an exhibitionist at the club, because I feel comfortable, safe, familiar there...even though some people might be strangers, and they might see me, there is a grace that exists through those dungeon doors. I am extremely grateful. It's probably the only place I go where I do feel sex positive. Well, Zen's bed, too. Honestly I feel almost guilty for having these hangups when I'm there. They seem so trivial.

So I grew up forming too much of my sexuality on crafting an experience for others, and on listening to what boys said they wanted (and being upset and confused as hell by it all) ... Boys would lie, beg, bargain, do anything to get a girl to give the sex...and then often enough it seemed, as I often overheard, they'd punish her for it. Shame her among themselves. Why? It's what they wanted? What if she wanted it, too? Why was getting laid a point of pride for a boy, and shame for a girl?

The way I coped with that in my youth, was to take on a masculine and Dominant attitude. I was evil and aggressive, and their shame couldn't touch me. Snarling at the world in my leather trench coat and combat boots. To be a pretty girl, an innocent, in lace and flowers, was to invite trolling, abuse, mockery. So I would not be weak. Simple enough. The closest to feminine I wanted to come was the demeanor of an elegant older lady like my Aunt Jeanette. A dignified creature with a spine of steel. I can still do haughty untouchable elegance if I want, too. Led to the mistake of my marriage in part, he loved me and I didn't give a damn, so I felt like I was in control. Until I clearly wasn't.

Once though, I was a virgin girl with a room full of seashells and unicorns. A different lifetime. The idea of exploring "girly-ness" is terrifying to me. I remember hearing the way the boys talked. And wanting only to be liked by other people. I did not have that, then. But like so many things that make me scared or uncomfortable, there are elements to "girly innocence" that live in the realm of my own fantasies, too. I feel like in order to get off, I have to touch on subjects that discomfort me. That is on occasion one of them.

Sex positive. What does that mean? Are the women on fetlife who are showing the world their bodies, sex positive? I mean, pictures and videos, once they get on the internet, they can go anywhere. My coworkers could find them. My sons could find them one day. I'm far more "out" about what I'm into with lots and lots of people, than most folks I know...but see, I can tell the women at work that I go to a fetish club, tell them what I do, and that does not mean I'm alright with porn of me being passed around my office. I imagine the men, men I don't know, and don't want, leering at me. Like they've had sex with me, but I never consented to it, and if they continue to have access to the material, then they can do it again and again. I have surrendered my agency and ownership, given away my rights to my own sexuality. It's awful, that thought. I don't like it.

Does sex positive mean I need to get comfortable with all of the uncomfortable things? Learn to be so proud of my body that I'm alright with sharing it with the whole damn world like that? Does the fact that some of my discomforts came from bad messages, or cruel social double standards, mean that I need to discard them, overcome them? And how on earth is it, that the women I know who are so far in the closet about kink that they can see Narnia, are ok posting that stuff on fetlife? Do they not understand that anyone could steal that content and share it anywhere? Do people really imagine that the internet is private? I mean, I could lose my job over something like that. I'd bet, like even though I can get away with telling half the office about my sex life, if a sex video of me showed up, I'd get terminated immediately.

It's like the world demands one thing, and the world demands another thing, and they are in utter conflict but I've got to BE both/all somehow. And I've been trying to figure that shit out since puberty. It probably bears mentioning that I'm not very comfortable about compartmentalizing. Being one person here and a different person there. I prefer to be my own genuine self anywhere. But I still struggle with the whole: Be a lady and a slut and a Mom and a neuter in the workplace and don't be such a prude, but if you share too much and get shamed/judged/raped/whatever you were asking for it, so be sex positive, but protect yourself, don't dress that way for other men, but why do you always wear jeans and sweatshirts, can't you be pretty for me?, know how to please, but be an innocent, be vulnerable, but accept that it's a fun joke when I use it against you...that's the world of my experience as a female in our general society. People pleasing? Of course! Because if you don't then no one will love you. Now I suppose it might be peaceful to be alone with my cat, sometimes I think so, but the fact is I'm too extroverted to be ok with that for very long. And now I'm in the first phase of my life where my needs get to really be important...and I have no idea what to do or who to be.

All I can say is that I have worn pink underwear for Zen and I don't think he has any idea how big a deal that actually is. I still don't know how to roleplay innocence. If that's what he wants. But I'm wearing girly underwear for a change, because he likes it. And because I trust him. And for the first time, right now, right here in this very moment, I think I understand the whole Daddy-Dom/little girl dynamic just a bit. I always thought the "littes" thing was kind of creepy. Like instead of sexualizing children, they were childifying sex...somehow. The blending of themes of childhood and themes of sexuality, which should be for adults. Weird! Not my kink! But there is a vulnerability in sharing your inner child. Maybe it's just about the exchange of trust in that. Acknowledging that any part of me is, or ever has been, a GIRL...that once I was a girl with seashells and unicorns in her room...that the hardened snarly surly teen who did not give a fuck what anyone said ever, is not the first incarnation of who I am and that deep down, I can actually be hurt...and not just by myself... Well, that's scary. Feels like I've spent so long protecting myself that now that I don't have to, it's tough to figure out just what to do, how to feel, or who to be.

Again, I've spent so long just reacting that I barely know who to be when I'm not.

I just took another run at the wall. And the wall was not there. And I promptly fell right on my face. But...I don't THINK...that I broke anything...

In other news of life, the universe, and everything, last night was wonderful. Zen is so good to me, and I love him so much. And...I'm his girl. *shrug*
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Hm, just had another thought, can share this one far more briefly (thank god right??)

I'm not ok with sharing my tears, either. I get embarrassed and apologetic about it.

Funny how I'm always hearing that men are the ones who aren't allowed to cry or show emotion or vulnerability. I feel like doing so was an invitation to abuse as a kid, too, so I don't easily do that. Zen and I watched my "tear jerker" film, and it had the usual effect on me, but I fought it and apologized for it and hid my face behind tissues.

Hiding weakness is a pretty significant part of my existence. Probably way more than I ever recognized.

Like women who love their bodies enough to show them to others and seem magically immune from the world of worrying about consequences, I also half envy, half judge, and 100% don't "get" women who can just cry anywhere in front of anyone, like it's no big deal.

Of course the only rare times I cried in front of my ex, he yelled at me for trying to manipulate him with my fake crying, everyone knows women just turn on the waterworks to get what we want, he said. But I've been shutting that down far longer than that, way before him.

Just an observation.
 
I find it interesting that seashells are part of what you associate with being girly. I had some seashells when I was young, but the reason I had them and loved them was because I collected them at the beach the one time I visited my father's parents, who lived across the country from us (they usually came to us). My older son, though, has always loved and collected seashells. So they are fairly gender neutral to me. :)

I totally understand not understanding the Daddy dom/little girl dynamic until you found yourself in the middle of a relationship where you can kind of see that dynamic fitting how you feel and relate to the person who you love. The fact my dom is ten years younger than me made it a little harder at the beginning to wrap my head around the whole thing.
 
Well despite the age difference, I don't really see him as a Daddy sort, and he has not agreed to be my Dom. But he likes me to be girly, and I love to please him.

I would love to wear his collar, were he willing, but I think I'd still find it odd to behave as a child or call him Daddy, pink underwear or no.

But I'm seeing, I think, another angle of it.
 
Doing some careful self monitoring...I'm still good right now. Feelings in a good/happy/ok place. Did not talk to Zen yesterday and feeling like maybe I should check in with him. Just a weird nagging feeling to see how he is doing, so I probably will, though if he sees this first (since he does read my blog) he'll know that I am thinking of him. I actually had a dream at some point in the early morning hours that he was not feeling well. I don't tend to think of my dreams as prophetic in any way, it's just a reflection of me feeling a concern, a simple desire to reach out and ask, "Are you doing ok today?" for no particular reason.

I'm doing ok today.

I hope he is doing ok today.

Oh! I'll see him. We're doing lunch maybe. I need to ask him about that. We usually do that on Friday, so it had slipped my mind, but I can't tomorrow due to a schedule conflict, so... yeah.

Today's random thoughts in the shower were about change, specifically changing oneself. I have been in situations with partners since I left Old Wolf where I felt a desire to adapt myself, change myself...and in one instance when it was with the Worm King, I was asking myself what I could be to make him more interested and please him, and that was a mistake on the simple grounds that if a person is not into you and wanting to bond deeply and longterm, then they just aren't. No matter how much you like them, you're not going to force that. And if they do capitulate and just let the relationship go forward despite not really wanting you, that is a recipe for eventual disaster, too. So. Changing for him, was a mistake, at least insofar as it wasn't going to influence the outcome of what was going on there. But at the time, I saw it as exploring other sides of my self. And THAT, I am down to do. That, I think, is growing. Feels like it anyhow.

There are 100 million ways probably that humans can try to change themselves. Some are considered more acceptable than others by various segments of society, and I find that interesting. For instance. A person transitioning their gender...progressive minds are supportive, conservative minds may be skeptical or worse, disgusted or condemning. A family member who thinks of themselves as progressive may still yet have a hard time coming to terms with such an idea about someone close to them...you're asking me to accept that the person I know and love, isn't who you are or want to be, and to give up that person and let a new person into my life essentially, with an identity change as big as that...or so it felt when someone close to me mentioned that he might be considering this.

Sometimes, we think we know how we are going to react to things in theory, but once the reality is right there in your face, it's still a challenge.

But ultimately, my personal values and belief system says... If you are changing for yourself, to grow, to be more true to what is inside of you, to explore other aspects of who you are, or anything like that, then it's probably healthy change. If you are doing it to please someone else, or even many someones else, and it is NOT a part of your true path to personal happiness and fulfillment, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

I think.

Here's another tricky one. The mucky concept known as gay conversion therapy. It is common thinking among everyone I would associate with that this:
- Doesn't work.
- Is wrong.
- Is harmful.
- Should never be done.
- Is never ok.
...etc. But there is the one thing that gives me pause. What if someone doesn't want to be gay. What if they WERE "born that way" but it makes them miserable to the point of wanting to end their lives, maybe because the desire to fit in and have family acceptance, to create natural children in a traditional family, etc is STRONGER for that specific individual, than the desire to pursue their "nature" as a gay person. Because the historical context is rejection of gay people and we are trying so hard to make acceptance of gay people the universal social norm, which is GREAT, I would expect most (progressive/normal) people I know to say that this person needs counseling to push them in the direction of accepting who they are as a gay person, and giving up the idea of living as a cishet traditional whatever. If your family won't accept you as gay, then they can fuck off. Adopt kids or use a surrogate. Etc. The people I know would never in a million years be ok with a path of, "help this person to not be gay." Even if it is what that person wants more than anything.

**Note: This has no basis in reality, none of this pertains to anybody, it's all just a mental exercise to illustrate a thought process. It's a train of logic. Please take it only as that, and nothing else!!**

The problem of course is that if conversion therapy is a thing that exists, even assuming it is/were possible for it to work, and I have no idea if it could work for someone who really, really, really wanted it, or if it did, would that mean that there IS some element of choice in it? I mean, if it were purely biological you'd think it could be "cured" or better put, changed with some sort of hormones or gene therapy or some medical angle. The point is, if there were a way for this to be changed, you'd have lots of people thinking that it SHOULD be changed and that, because THEY believe it's wrong or sinful, any person who presents as gay must be made to take the change pill and be normal. There is that huge segment of society that wants everyone to be alike for some damn reason, like THEM, of course. "Normal."

Well fuck that all day long. Of course!

My point though is that if a person wants a change for themselves though, for their own reasons...should they not have that freedom and right to choose it?

And we get into that a bit here, because we've had some touchy discussions with some folks who say "I was born poly, it is an immutable part of who I am and I cannot accept that it's just a choice you can make or not make, at least for me, it is not." Well. We get to the clear statement that for some it's nature and not choice, and that is fine, but why is it threatening or offensive for ME to say, "for me this is a choice." Personally, the freedom to make choices and the responsibility to own my choices is really important. The idea that anyone would ever say to me, "Well yesterday you said you were X, so today, you cannot be Y. Or ever again. Deal with it, it's who you ARE." That's scary. Scary as hell. People in my community argue that switches aren't really a thing, they're just Doms or subs who haven't properly accepted their role for whatever reason...people both gay and straight sometimes argue that bisexuals aren't real. Well you could have fooled me! Why the need to restrict the evolution of others? Is it really so hard to let people just do what they do and be who they be, and change if they want? And to the point... We'll scowl at a "normal" person who can accept if someone chooses "normal" life choices, but condemns or balks at anything outside their perception of "normal" right? But is it any more ok for a...what, progressive or alt person, someone who is very accepting of poly, of kink, of LGBT+, etc...someone like most of us here for instance... The person who has lived as straight but comes out as gay, is accepted, but a person who has lived as gay who in theory wanted to somehow "become" straight would be met with incredulous outrage, no? Can one not change in whatever ways one wants to change so long as the desire to do it has healthy roots?

I don't want to get too far into the weeds with the details of nature versus choice, gay/straight, mono/poly or any such thing, I'm just trying to paint a picture to illustrate an IDEA that I'm trying to explore. I hope that is clear. I don't want to offend anyone, I really like everybody here.

I'm just wondering about personal freedom to change, or maybe where is the line drawn between wanting to change something about yourself for reasons of your own, and bending to please others, or one other, or whatever. And what if you WANT to please another person? So it's kind of both? Does it depend on what you're changing or exploring? Or the motive behind it? Should we be free to change ourselves as we please, or are we somehow obligated to declare a position and stand there? Obligated to whom?

I'll just leave that there. Rambly morning thinkythoughts.

Hope everyone has a great day!
 
I find it interesting that seashells are part of what you associate with being girly. I had some seashells when I was young, but the reason I had them and loved them was because I collected them at the beach the one time I visited my father's parents, who lived across the country from us (they usually came to us). My older son, though, has always loved and collected seashells. So they are fairly gender neutral to me. :)

I totally understand not understanding the Daddy dom/little girl dynamic until you found yourself in the middle of a relationship where you can kind of see that dynamic fitting how you feel and relate to the person who you love. The fact my dom is ten years younger than me made it a little harder at the beginning to wrap my head around the whole thing.

Regarding seashells...my son also has seashells. He used to rock a sort of pirate thing, my younger kid. I thought it was cool to have a Ninja and a Pirate for sons, but then my younger son well, he's not that into the pirate shtick anymore, though he's still just all over the place figuring out who he is. Anyhow. He's got coins and gems and rocks and seashells and treasure boxes.

So no, it's not really gendered, seashell collecting, but for me, having delicate and pretty things, that I invested with care and value, was. Seashells and ceramic unicorns, light purple painted walls, flowers on my bedspread, and a love of all things Lisa Frank, when I was like 10. But then I was also running around in the woods by myself getting dirty, and destroying any toy people gave me that might have electronic components or magnets or anything, so I could rebuild the parts into an "invention" or something. (I did build a sort of basic solar powered little toy car thing once, when I was like 7 or 8, by myself out of bits from things I smashed apart with a shoe. It was just a bit of wood with wheels and solar panels from a little car fan, and a little motor out of some other toy...it would go until it hit shade, then stop.) I also loved to set stuff on fire, but I never did anything especially destructive with that, I tried to be safe and mostly succeeded.

So I was never ALL the way girly, I was doing some stuff that I guess would be considered more masculine, or at least I never heard about other girls I knew having much interest in building stuff at the time. And some girly pursuits always seemed dumb and boring to me, like when as a young preteen they gave me magazines and things about fashion and makeup.
 
Not a lot to report except that I went for an overdue doctor's appointment, and my gynecologist and I had a political conversation in which she urged me to march with women tomorrow and protest Trump.

I am not sure if I want to or not.

On the one hand, yes, I absolutely do. That man offends me to the very core of my being, and all his shitty little troll army, too. On the other hand, I have a son who absolutely NEEDS me to be there to raise him for the next 3.5 years, there just isn't really anyone else to do it or anywhere else for him to go, that wouldn't be a complete train wreck, and I feel a certain obligation to stay safe and out of jail. I've never been arrested or been in any trouble with the law in my life. And so I wonder how much good I'll be doing as one more face in that crowd, versus keeping a low profile, and free & clear, and once the kid is out of my hair maybe I can do some real good.

God that's a crazy thought you know, is that my son will be an adult and unless he is stopped somehow, Trump will still be in office. Obama's years went by very quickly for me.

Now I'll be quite honest in saying that there were things about Obama's doings that I didn't always trust or I was skeptical of.

The mortgage modification program for starters...that was a system that actually ALLOWED banks to exploit troubled homeowners and caused many people to be forced into foreclosure. I knew one woman who was a victim of Bank of America's modification mill back in about 2010.

And the ACA? It did me no good. See, I'm an artist, and it's always been my dream to leave the cubicle behind one day and run my own business, and I've got some cool ideas. I know that I could earn enough money selling my own art, if I made it full time, to survive. It would be tight, but possible. I was excited to discover that, when I ran the numbers. And there is a market for what I can produce. It looks great until you factor in one thing...INSURANCE. Even if my kids are grown and I'm only insuring myself, it's too expensive for someone just trying to start out as an indie small business person. If I made a low enough income to qualify for really cheap or free coverage, I wouldn't be making enough to pay my bills. The conclusion I reached was that I was stuck in my job on the payroll of a big company, which provides insurance where we don't even have to pay premiums for the employee, only for partners/spouses and kids. We've got excellent insurance where I work. So I can sadly tuck my little dream away in a desk drawer, 'cause it don't look likely with a system in place that would penalize my already high taxes if I don't have insurance.

I was not thrilled, honestly, with the ACA. But then I've never had a disqualifying preexisting condition, and I don't recall ever being charged more for healthcare coverage because I'm female either. I haven't seen any benefit from the ACA, though I understand that other people I know have benefited from it.

So yeah, Obama's policies didn't always benefit me. I was sometimes critical of what he was up to. And yet he's a decent guy. His family are dignified and decent. As are the Bidens. Nothing like what we're dealing with now, the revolting vulgarian and his nepotism and his ignorance and his army of trolls... Everything about this is terrible.

I'm trying to cope with laughter. Some of the jokes on Facebook today have been pretty funny. A reference to trump's pro wrestling involvement shows Bernie coming after him with a folding chair. That was pretty funny. But yeah...a few jokes, that's all I got. Mostly I am tired. Too tired to be furious or freaked out. Even though I am and all, I'm still kind of not. Maybe I'm clapping for Tinkerbell whatever that means.

Maybe I'll just donate some money to Planned Parenthood.
 
Oh!

I don't know why I thought of him, but Jeff Goldblum is my biggest ever celebrity crush. I've liked older gents with accents like your Peter Capaldi and Craig Ferguson, but Jeff Goldblum...

And now he's gone silver. Mercy... Why was I thinking about or Googling him, I really just don't know where that idea came from, just this afternoon, but I came across this article...

https://www.theguardian.com/global/...w-fatherhood-independence-day-film-eve-barlow

...The relatable fellow who likes jazz and is into eastern philosophies.

Zen, my love, does this resonate a little?

“Didn’t Stanislavsky say: love the art in yourself, not yourself in art? Bit highfalutin but the idea is to be interested in the human aspect of all stories. Start to love that and then all the chips will fall into place.”

And he likes going to ComicCon.

Yeah, I guess I do have a "type"...
 
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