Desperately need advice.

I do realise this is a poly forum and our situation is not.. but you guys have great advice... it has been good to read about couples in a poly relationship and consider whether perhaps our renegotiations should explore this idea. I can see already that I'm never going to be any good at hook ups without there being something more... I need that connection to be interested in sex. So thank you for the patience and time spent in the replies, appreciate it.
 
I do realise this is a poly forum and our situation is not.. but you guys have great advice... it has been good to read about couples in a poly relationship and consider whether perhaps our renegotiations should explore this idea. I can see already that I'm never going to be any good at hook ups without there being something more... I need that connection to be interested in sex. So thank you for the patience and time spent in the replies, appreciate it.

No worries. We all started somewhere.
 
I was ging to post some stuff about how I don't see that polyamory has much wiggle-room here, but seeing as it's late, I'm just gonna stop at "what Magdlyn said." :)

;) <3
 
I do realise this is a poly forum and our situation is not.
Oh, sorry; FWIW, that's not how I intended it. :eek: Sure, while the central intent of the forums is polyamory, not everyone here is "all poly, all the time." It's one of the few sites where "crowdsourcing" seems to work (often, if not always). There's a huge range of experience & observation that can be tapped for advice about just about any relational form imaginable.

You're still making your way through the concepts, clearly; that adventure alone is going to take time, patience, & experience, likely with a LOT of talking with your husband, one-on-one. On my reading, this comment stood out:
I'm not interested in having sex with someone if there's not an attraction. Therefore if im attracted to someone enough to sleep with them then there's an emotional connection.
There's a false dichotomy ("either/or") there, on what I feel is more of a continuous spectrum.

I've had a few "one-night stands" in my time, but not because I went seeking to get laid: it was the right person, we both felt a "click" between us, & we had the opportunity. While happy all 'round, generally neither of us saw it as somehow the beginning of an ongoing intimate relationship, rather a mutual statement of the moment. There was certainly "an attraction," but maybe the word/concept means something different for you. As well, there was also arguably "an emotional connection."

And how would nonsexual but deep (or strong) attraction/connection relationships fit into the picture?

Still plenty to ponder. ;)
 
There's a false dichotomy ("either/or") there, on what I feel is more of a continuous spectrum.
I must agree with Ravenscroft.
A lot of people would say it's still "just sex" if there's attraction -- attraction is not necessarily emotional connection to them.
Then you could have sympathy/connection, but still no romance and no push to build a relationship.
Some people can have friends with benefits, where they have genuine caring, but still no romantic feelings.
Then there is looove ;)
... which still comes in many kinds, only some of which seem to require mingling lives together and making commitments.

You'll have to differentiate a bit more. As for now you imho don't have enough experience to tell if you need love for sex, or if attraction or sympathy or friendship is enough for you ... with certain people at least.
 
If a man wanted me to leave my partner for them, I'd RUNNNNNN!!!!

Even if I was done with a partner, it would freak me out that being with them meant monogamy. I am so not going back to that prison of expectations.

If I had only two experiences and both wanted me to leave my partner for them, I'd also take a closer look at how I was explaining my situation and talking about my partner in front of them to check if something I was saying could be interpreted in ways I don't intend. For example, excitement or NRE being interpreted as massive commitment to them.... and I'd make doubly sure that they understood that the partner was going nowhere (even if he was).

Last thing I need in my life is a man who thinks getting laid by me gives him exclusive rights over my relationships with others.
 
If a man wanted me to leave my partner for them, I'd RUNNNNNN!!!!

Even if I was done with a partner, it would freak me out that being with them meant monogamy. I am so not going back to that prison of expectations.

If I had only two experiences and both wanted me to leave my partner for them, I'd also take a closer look at how I was explaining my situation and talking about my partner in front of them to check if something I was saying could be interpreted in ways I don't intend. For example, excitement or NRE being interpreted as massive commitment to them.... and I'd make doubly sure that they understood that the partner was going nowhere (even if he was).

Last thing I need in my life is a man who thinks getting laid by me gives him exclusive rights over my relationships with others.

^^ Every word of this, over and over, forever and ever, Amen.
 
Thank you magdlyn,
You are absolutely spot on with everything you've said. Perhaps 40 days will give me a clearer answer for what I want with my husband - at the moment I'm torn between trying harder or just leaving.
We are off on a family holiday to bali on monday so this may help.
Actually the biggest issue with my husband is the sex... and for me thats a big one. He refuses to give oral sex and thinks womens wet stuff is gross... and so are periods. To me this is childish and it makes me really angry. I've heard "gross" and "yuck" many times over the years about my vagina! Last time he said it I turned around and lost it at him. I've tried so hard to tell him what i want in the bedroom... doesnt want to use toys, doesnt like to be adventurous. So for me taking on a lover who literally adores the vagina and gives me everything and anything I want sexually really brings back that resentment towards my husband.
After so many years of this i think he's not going to change, and ive openly told him that I'm upset at our sex life and the lack of spice... he is very selfish in the bedroom.

As for the nude pics - that doesnt bother me in the slightest. Its more the protectiveness over the phone. I've never snooped and never will so I guess it had me questioning whether he is creating a relationship with someone and also not being open about it with me. I saw the nude pics because I happened to look over when we were both sitting on the couch. Usually he makes sure I can't see the phone.

We have had some small conversations over the last few days, but havn't yet had a whole lot of time without someone else being in the room with listening ears so I am hoping to sit down with a couple drinks in Bali for a proper chat.

Ugh, Ugh, UGH. A person who tells you that your vagina is "gross" and "ew" doesn't deserve access to your vagina. Enough said.

Even if he didn't enjoy oral sex and performing that or doing things during your period were boundaries for him, he can express those boundaries without shaming your body and acting like a child. This would be a MAJOR turn off for me. I'm also in the same boat as you that those things are important to me. For me, an unwillingness to perform oral sex while still expecting that I perform it is a DEAL BREAKER. I'm a very sexual person when it comes to my relationships and sexual chemistry is important to me, otherwise I'd just be friends with that person, not partners.

Of course, that's just my personal opinion and that sort of decision is very personal. But I don't think that it's a behavior that you have to put up with, that's for sure, regardless of whether you stay with your husband or not.
 
Thank you all.. I've had time to think quite deeply about all of this and I'm glad to confirm that sex with husband or lack of it happening can be a deal breaker. I felt like it was selfish of me to put that above keeping it all together for my kids.
So I've started putting plans into place to leave. It is a very one sided relationship and I'm certain I will find someone one day on my level. Thanks for the help and clarity.

And vagina access has been closed for a few months already.. I had a great time with someone that mafe me feel good and then had no inclination to want whats on offer at home... so I think once that door closed everything is downhill from there anyway.
 
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Thank you all.. I've had time to think quite deeply about all of this and I'm glad to confirm that sex with husband or lack of it happening can be a deal breaker. I felt like it was selfish of me to put that above keeping it all together for my kids.
So I've started putting plans into place to leave. It is a very one sided relationship and I'm certain I will find someone one day on my level. Thanks for the help and clarity.

And vagina access has been closed for a few months already.. I had a great time with someone that mafe me feel good and then had no inclination to want whats on offer at home... so I think once that door closed everything is downhill from there anyway.

I really hope your relationship transition goes smoothly! It sounds like this is a really good move for you and I hope that your husband turns out to be a better coparent/friend than he has been at being a partner to you.
 
Good luck!
 
Thank you all.. I've had time to think quite deeply about all of this and I'm glad to confirm that sex with husband or lack of it happening can be a deal breaker....vagina access has been closed for a few months already.. I had a great time with someone that made me feel good and then had no inclination to want whats on offer at home... so I think once that door closed everything is downhill from there anyway.

Yay!! Best of luck and happiness to you! Feel free to start a blog on how your transition and further progress goes. :)
 
Sounds like the right move.
 
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