I'm mono and he is poly. Please help.

OnePlusOne

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I don't know how to start this other than I am angry but really trying to find my zen.

Here is the story. I met a guy back in the summer of 2016. I fell HARD. He's intelligent, good looking, bi-polar and had a girlfriend but they weren't doing well AT ALL.

He's 43 and I am 48. He was trying to get out of his relationship but had a 2 year old which didn't help things. He also has a 11 year old and 13 year old from a previous marriage.

We had this INSANE sexual relationship that went on for 6 months. I saw him every chance he had. He gave me as much as he could in the situation. He was exploring the idea of being poly and while this isn't for me (at least if I am in love with someone otherwise I don't care) it was falling on deaf ears. Then I had to move for 4 months and when I got back things were weird. He was finally in the middle of a nasty break up with his GF of 3 years. One night he told me how he met this beautiful girl that was funny, witty and he would hope to get to know her better. This came out of the blue and I was like WTF? Why would he just text me this? Then I responded with "does she know how f***ED up you are? That promptly ended our relationship. I wrote a beautiful, raw email a week later that went without a response. I was in such bad shape for months. I put myself in therapy and learned how to function again.

Fast forward a year... and I never stopped thinking about him. I often wondered how he was doing but never contacted him. Then 5 days before the one year when we stopped talking, I sent him an email and asked said "hope you are well"... he responded a day later telling me how he was going to write me in a few days (I believe this) but that I had beat him to it. He was so happy that I wrote and was glad we were in contact. He wrote me an email telling me that the last year (when we didn't talk) was full of pain, custody battles, drunk driving accidents etc. It was ugly. I'm glad we weren't in contact and he said he was glad we weren't either because it was all too messy. Now he is living alone but obviously in relationships.

A week later we met up. I drank a little too much at the restaurant because I was nervous. He did not. We talked and he said anything he told me about his current life would be hurtful. Knowing that the alcohol was a barrier I said.. sure.. go head and tell me... so he's in a relationship with a girl that is an open marriage. Ok... then he might have said he was with someone else but I was just in some weird mind frame.

He also admitted to me that he had fallen in love with me when we were together a year ago etc... I was surprised but this but it felt nice. He doesn't engage with me near as much because I know his brain is "somewhere else"...

We planned on getting together Wed night but last week he said tonight would be better so I moved my plans a bit. I had only heard from his this morning via text that he would bring champagne... 6:30pm and nothing so finally I text him and ask him when he will be here. He said around 8 or 8:15 which in his world means 9pm. I felt pissed and defeated. I said "maybe another night when you can get here after work would be better perhaps"... I said I am available all next week until next Tues (going out of town until the end of June) and I said let me know what would work for you. He said "next Monday would be great!"...

I said.. listen.. if you can get here REALLY at 8 (knowing how he works) and he said "lets just make it next Monday"... WOW... WTF? Am I an after thought or what? I had even said to him earlier in the week that I don't want to be a "gap filler".. he said "well, if you feel that way, RUN!".....Its I am who I am and if you can't take... BYE attitude. So here I am all dolled up and confused.

I *AM* clearly being fitted into small amounts of his free time.. even tonight I am sure he was relieved that I cancelled because he was probably on a date. He's on Ashely Madison.. that's where he meets people from what I understand.

I feel like SHITE. Can you lovely people enlighten me? By the way, I don't judge people who want to be poly. My mom was a hippy and taught me to live and let live... I'm an open minded person but because I deeply love someone poly (or trying to be poly) I am hurt and confused.

If you got this far, thanks.
 
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Run... Run far far away from this whole mess.
 
This sounds messy as hell. RUN.

Listen, mono/poly set ups CAN work, but often they just don't. It takes a really special bond. For some people - I am one of them - being poly is a natural orientation. We literally cannot help it. It's relationship equivalent of a gay person hiding in a straight marriage.

Now, that being said, there's all kinds of other reasons not to date this man. He does not communicate well, his life is a mess of drama, and he has not respected you and your needs AT ALL. I mean, you wrote an email detailing your feelings and he didn't respond? What the hell is that? And he sounds like he's in no way in healthy relationships otherwise, dating you - and presumably others - while he's in the middle of a terrible break up, TEXTING that he is in love with someone else? Mono, poly, or anything in between, this just isn't healthy relationship behavior.

This man shouldn't be dating anyone, and this will just cause your more pain. Leave and never look back.
 
It was a disaster the first time and now you're going back for more? You can't get him out of your head because you CHOOSE not to. It needs to die.
 
I agree with the others.

Stop contacting him. He was a mess before, and is still a mess. Doesn't treat you how you want to be treated. So if hanging around him makes you feel angry/upset/confused? You could STOP hanging around him.

Galagirl
 
I don't need to run.... he just ran from me AGAIN.

Sorry everyone, not sure why there are duplicates (added together) of this post.

To be fair, I guess I haven't been easy to deal with too but I told him I would be wiling to start again (after a year of not talking) but he had every intention of contacting me again after a year even though I beat him to it.

The email I wrote him when he dumped me the first time was where I spilled my guts. He said he didn't respond because at the time he was going through a break up of his relationship to his girlfriend (she had no idea of his side stuff) and I guess he wanted to get in contact again after breaking up with her and now that he is living the life he always wanted. But, I wonder if he is living under the guise of poly in order to live a life of no consequences.

Anyway, I don't need to run from him. He wrote me late last night and dumped me AGAIN because he said I wasn't handling things well. Well, it has nothing to do with his poly... its just respect and I would have had an issue if ANYONE did this to me.

I asked him a few days ago that I hope I wasn't a gap filler and he said "well, if you feel that way, just run".. then he made joke that unless I mean that in a sexual innuendo, then that would be fine. Well, we couldn't even get together for a real date because I know I was an after thought as he didn't text me all day until I asked what time he was coming over at 6:30pm!!! TO which he replied 8 or 8:15. I really do believe he was just fitting me in.. and probably was relieved when I cancelled.

Here is his email dumping me AGAIN that he sent last night after I cancelled due to his disrespect regarding coming over. Keep in mind that English isn't his first language. So, again, I have to lick my wounds.

The good news is, we hadn't had sex yet after the year we hadn't spoken so that's good. And perhaps he did me a favor... but THIS time like last time, I won't be writing a long and vulnerable email. He gets ZERO response this time. See email below.

Hello,

Not sure this works for me anymore. Your messages today left me
confused and just, not well. I don't think this relation would be
something I'd need these days.
I don't know how not to seem horribly violent to you, and to once
again have to back off, but I am a bit lost and must think about
preserving myself. Not having to feel bad about so many things,
limiting this. Not seeing ha! in a sms, nor hearing you laugh with
derision and feeling you do this to hide that you're hurt. Feeling
that you're repeating you'll be fine as if you want to convince
yourself. Hearing that I'm not picky and thinking you don't mean it,
but you might just be feeling slightly better telling me this. Well,
whatever my justifications are, I won't come next Monday, this doesn't
work for me and puts me in a state of unease I do not really want, and
that you don't really deserve as well. I am sorry that I should do
this to you again, this is profoundly unfair to you and the good
person that you are.

<end>

I will always love him but even though I was willing to work on the poly part, it seemed I was just an after thought... yet ANOTHER person he could have sex with...
 
Ever had that friend (male or female) who's very social and outgoing and everyone wants to be around them and they tell everyone how they looove them and care for them, but then in reality, they are flaky and they can never give you any one on one time, or not consistently, because their attention is just so divided?
Assuming best of intentions (although there is not much reason to do so), your man reminds me of one of these people.

So what do you have to do if you want to keep seeing such a friend? Lower your expectation significantly and put them into proper context. Assume there's gonna be some nice time once in a while when "all goes well". Refuse to fix commitments for them, as they refuse to fix them for you. Don't give them as much thought it gets painful. Basically, assume there's no relationship at all. You don't have to stop loving them - talking about a calm the feeling of love, which mostly has compassion and a sense of appreciation or awe at some aspects of the person - but you have to stop equating those feelings with a mutual wish for a committed relationship. He can't give you what you need relationship-wise. Period.

Now, this process of lowering expectations is painful and anger is a natural part of it. Cutting contact may indeed be an easier approach. But strictly speaking you don't have to. You can put up boundaries. Strict boundaries, such as
"I'm not going to try over and over again with the time management. You contact me if you want to see me. And I'll only accept if it suits me well."
"Great that you decided not to overwhelm me with details of your break-up. Keep that up. I will not be your 'unload emotional baggage' person. (I will only listen to problems for X minutes/not at all/about... you decide.)"
"As I don't know about your other partners, let's keep safer sex practices very strictly", or rather "I can't trust you with full intimacy until you demonstrate consistently meeting my relationship needs. Sex is off the table."

I'm very sorry this man is not what you want him to be. You do sound a bit lonely. Please don't put aside any of your other social life for him.
 
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Never make someone a priority who views you as an option.

BTW NONE of this was poly. Cheating on his girlfriend with you isn't polyamory. It was infidelity with you being the side piece.

Again my advice is run far away from this guy and go completely no contact.
 
I honestly don't see how this guy benefit's the OP's life in any way. Just chalk it up to a bad experience and move on. Unfortunately, it often is the case that the best sex involves someone who is completely awful for us.

Why in the world would you always love him? What FOR?
 
This man has treated you shabbily going back more than a year now, and he keeps doing it.

I don't know him, but from everything you've told us here, I do not believe for an instant he was "just about to email you" but you "beat him to it". That is such an old line, it's almost laughable.

I AM sorry you're in pain. We can't help who we fall for, or who we click with on some subliminal or chemical level (as powerpuffgrl said, often the best sex is with someone who is otherwise all wrong for us, unfortunately) - but we sure as hell need to recognise when that "love" isn't serving us well, especially if the bad treatment continues well past the hearts and flowers stage, or begins when the flush of infatuation wears off.

Continuing to give this man the time of day, either in person or in your own head and heart, is a complete waste of time, energy and love better spent elsewhere.

I'm not sure if he's just selfish and immature or an opportunistic user. However, it is just possible his behaviour is the result of a manic phase that is unmanaged/badly managed, so that he is currently off the rails (you mentioned he's bipolar). In that phase of their disorder, many bipolar sufferers can say and do very impulsive, hurtful - AND self-destructive - things, such as the DUI-related car accidents and "messy" break-up behaviours.

In any case, you are not his psychiatrist, his mother or his wife. You have zero obligation to suffer through such capricious behaviour that will ultimately just cause you more pain and confusion, for no worthwhile outcome.

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Also, there's this: He is NOT POLY! He is a serial cheater.

When you first met him, he was living with another girl who didn't know about you, yet he chose to engage in a cheating affair anyway, claiming he wanted to "try poly".

Sure, he said it wasn't working out with his gf, and obviously that was true because they broke up soon after. But the fact remains he wasn't honest and up front with his partner.

Even when you reconnected with him after the year apart, he went out on a date with you even though he grudgingly admitted he was with someone else (did she even know?) AND he hooks up with new people via Ashley Maddison. Now I don't know much about dating sites/apps, but isn't A.M. specifically for those looking to have extra-marital affairs?

This is not a good guy. Not only is he not good FOR you, his ethics in general leave a lot to be desired.
 
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I honestly don't see how this guy benefit's the OP's life in any way. Just chalk it up to a bad experience and move on. Unfortunately, it often is the case that the best sex involves someone who is completely awful for us.

Why in the world would you always love him? What FOR?

Good point! Yes, it was the best sex and no... you are right..why the hell would I always love him other than he had the most amazing mind... intelligent beyond belief and just enjoyed even that but you are right.
 
Never make someone a priority who views you as an option.

BTW NONE of this was poly. Cheating on his girlfriend with you isn't polyamory. It was infidelity with you being the side piece.

Again my advice is run far away from this guy and go completely no contact.

Over a year ago, yes he was cheating on his girlfriend and he was discovering that he wanted a poly life.. which (I guess) now that he is single, that is what he is doing.
 
I won't be contacting him again as you can see, he dumped me (see email above he sent me last night) It's true.. I was kind of an ass on text but it was simply because we made time to see each other and I hadn't heard from him and texted him at 6:30 at which he said he would be over at 8 or 8:30. I KNEW something else came up for him and I was put on the back burner. Until he said next Monday would work for me... really? A week later? I guess I was "Monday girl"... WOW. I wouldn't expect this treatment from ANYONE. I kept saying I wanted more time with him and when he had it, I would love to be a part of it.

He would say.... when I am with you.. I am 100 percent with you. Uhhh....

As for bi-polar... someone mentioned he might be manic. He doesn't have the manic too much and in fact, IS stabilized on meds finally. He said he is living the life he wanted (meaning when he was with his girlfriend) and enjoying his sexuality.

But we would talk openly about his relationships (he is also experimenting with being bi-sexual) but clearly, he can't give me what I need... Why he even chose to reconnect with me is beyond me. He knew how much he hurt me a year ago and here he is, hurting me again. But, I will recover again and find someone that truly treats me with respect and doesn't make me an "option".... or second/third best.
 
Hello OnePlusOne,

Sorry that guy broke up with you. I admit, it sounds like this is for the best. I was not struck so much by his poly leanings, as much as I was by the fact that he can't even show up for a date on time (6:30 p.m. becomes 9:00 p.m.). It seems to me that he is a rather irresponsible fellow, you deserve someone who is a little more dependable. He has broken up with you for the second time. Let him go.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
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