Does it work if i'm mono and my partner non-hierarchical poly?

ziguy25

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Hello everyone,

I am a little bit lost and I would need some advice.

Two years ago, I started dating a guy (I am female) who was already involved in a 8-years relationship with his girlfriend, with whom he shared a house. I had already an experience in open relationship, and all my friend are in similar relationship so I wanted to try out (despite my short-term comfort for mono relationships).

But the beginning of my relationship with this guy (T) was difficult. I was not in love with the guy (T), he was very shortly and deeply with me. When I started to fall in love with him, I realised that he was putting me in the place of the unicorn. He wanted to form a trouple with me and his other girlfriend and was very insistent. The other girlfriend was also in love with me at one point. But I was always sure I didn't want that and I expressed my limits. I also asked if it was possible for them to be in a non-hierarchical poly relationship. I didn't want to come second. My condition was that anything the first girlfriend could have, I could also have at some point. For example, being invited to family parties and sharing a house. If the answer had been no, I would have stopped at that point. But the answer was yes, after talking to the other girlfriend.

Two years went by, during which I regularly felt I had less decision-making power than the other girlfriend. Many of the 'steps' in our relationship had to be validated by her first. She always agreed to everything I asked (and we had become friends). She also agreed that one day I could live with T. When I tried to talk to T about my impression of being second best, he said I was wrong and that he loved us both equally.

During the two years, I crushed on a transgender guy, and saw him for 3 months. At the beginning, T was very jealous and the he learned quickly comparsion. I couldn't manage two relationships at once and dumped the other guy. I realised that I didn't want to date 2 people at the same time. I'm fine with an open relationship for picking up people and kissing people, but that's where it ends (at least at the beginning of my main relationship).

He do not like very much the poly situation, he adapts because it is the pragmatic fact (he has 2 girlfriends he loves deeply). He agreed not to open up his feelings to a third person, or a second person if it ended with his other girlfriend. I asked him to do this because I don't want to deal with my jealousy. On the other hand, sexually he does what he wants and that's fine with me.

It took T a year and a half to tell his father about me (I even lied to the father once, which was clearly my limits and after that T spoke to his father). I've never been invited to a family party in two years (only 3 family dinners). As his relationship with his other girlfriend has been going badly for the last two years, T suggested last week that I think about the hierarchical relationship (he was reluctant to stop with her). I realised that I really wanted to. But he thought about it and finally decided to stay with my metamour, because he loves her and wants to be there for her because she is depressed. By this time, she had expressed doubts about her relationship with him and had chosen to leave the house where they lived together.

I asked what I thought was possible and logical from the very beginning of this relationship. I asked for us to live together, not immediately but in a year's time (which he accepted) and to be the guest at family celebrations. I wanted to reverse the trend and be in the other girlfriend's shoes. But T told me that it was hierarchy. That for the last 2 years, I was right, the relationship had been hierarchical to my detriment (he apologised for this) but that he didn't want to reproduce this with my metamour. The condition for us living together was that I should be as flexible as she is (who says yes to everything). And that if she wanted to live with him again in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, I should be able to accept it.

He also wanted the relationship to be truly 50/50. For example, 1/2 for family celebrations.

I've decided to break up with him but I'm pretty confused. The idea of living together on the condition that the other person can come back at any time seems very insecure to me. Similarly, as I myself am not poly in this way, I'm wondering whether it's possible to adapt (yet) and be fulfilled if the other person has "two main people".

Am I doing the right thing by extracting myself from this situation, or should I be more understanding of his mistakes, because he's had to learn? Does my frustration stem from the fact that I was "the second" or from the fact that I'm not poly? Am I basically mono, or do I need to learn? If I am mono, is it possible to continue this relationship without getting frustrated?

I am sorry for my english, I don't speak it very well...

Thank you very much!
 
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Hello everyone,
Hi. Welcome to the board. We generally ask that people choose nicknames for their partners, so since you called your bf T, I am going to call him Tree, and call your metamour Fleur.
I am a little bit lost and need some advice.

Two years ago, I started dating a guy (I am female), Tree, who was already involved in a 8-year relationship with his girlfriend Fleur, with whom he shared a house. I had already had experience in an open relationship, and all my friends are in similar relationships, so I wanted to try (despite my short-term comfort for mono relationships).
That was open-minded of you. It's good to experiment to find out who you are and how you like to live and relate.
But the beginning of my relationship with Tree was difficult. I was not in love with him [at first], but he soon feel deeply in love with me. When I started to fall in love with him, I realised that he was putting me in the place of a unicorn. He wanted to form a throuple with me and Fleur. He was very insistent. Fleur was also in love with me at one point. But I was always sure I didn't want that and I expressed my limits.
So you aren't bisexual, perhaps. I am glad you were firm about this.
I also asked if it was possible for them to be in a non-hierarchical poly relationship. I didn't want to come second. My condition was that anything Fleur could have, I could also have, at some point, for example, being invited to family parties and sharing a house. If the answer had been no, I would have stopped at that point. But the answer was yes, after talking to Fleur.
That seems fair. Since they have an eight-year history, some arrangements need to be worked towards. You don't get the same privileges overnight in every case.
Two years went by, during which I regularly felt I had less decision-making power than Fleur. Many of the 'steps' in our relationship had to be validated by her first. She always agreed to everything I asked (and we had become friends). She also agreed that one day I could live with Tree. When I tried to talk to Tree about my impression of being second best, he said I was wrong and that he loved us both equally.

During the two years, I crushed on a transgender guy, and saw him for 3 months... I couldn't manage two relationships at once and dumped the other guy. I realised that I didn't want to date 2 people at the same time. I'm fine with an open relationship for picking up people and kissing people, but that's where it ends (at least at the beginning of my main relationship).

Tree does not like very much the poly situation, but adapts because it is a pragmatic fact that he has 2 girlfriends he loves deeply. He agreed not to open up his feelings to a third person, or a second person, if it ended with Fleur. I asked him to do this because I don't want to deal with my jealousy. On the other hand, sexually he does what he wants, and that's fine with me.

It took Tree a year and a half to tell his father about me... I've never been invited to a family party in two years, only three family dinners.

As his relationship with Fleur has been going badly for the last two years, Tree suggested last week that I think about the hierarchical relationship. (He was reluctant to stop with her.) I realised that I really wanted to. But he thought about it and finally decided to stay with Fleur, because he loves her and wants to be there for her, because she is depressed. By this time, she had expressed doubts about her relationship with him and had chosen to leave the house where they lived together.
It can be hard to stick with someone in an established couple when they are having problems. It's unsettling, and it's not your fault, there's not much you can do about it, and you may be getting TMI about their troubles.
I asked... for us to live together... in a year's time (which he accepted) and to be the guest at family celebrations. I wanted to reverse the trend and step into Fleur's shoes. But Tree told me... that for the last two years... the relationship had been hierarchical, to my detriment. He apologised for this, but he didn't want to reproduce this with my metamour. The condition for us living together was that I should be as flexible as she is (say yes to everything). And that if Fleur wanted to live with him again in 2 years, 5 years, or 10 years, I should be able to accept it.

He also wanted the relationship to be truly 50/50. For example, 1/2 for family celebrations.

I've decided to break up with him, but I'm pretty confused. The idea of living together on the condition that Fleur can come back at any time seems very insecure to me. Similarly, as I myself am not poly in this way, I'm wondering whether it's possible to adapt (yet) and be fulfilled if Tree has "two main people."

Am I doing the right thing by extracting myself from this situation, or should I be more understanding of his mistakes, because he's had to learn? Does my frustration stem from the fact that I was "the second" or from the fact that I'm not poly? Am I basically mono, or do I need to learn? If I am mono, is it possible to continue this relationship without getting frustrated?
It sounds like these unstable conditions are not what you want. You feel insecure and still feel second best. I think it's a good idea to walk away, even if you still love Tree. And if Fleur has troubles with depression, and Tree wants to help her, that may be taking up more of his time than you are comfortable with, time that could be spent with you, enjoying each other and building a good solid r'ship. Sometimes when couples are having issues, they open their relationship as a "band-aid" to get some relief from their problems. You deserve more than to be a band-aid for another couple's problems.
 
Hello ziguy25,

Mono/poly relationships do exist, they are a thing and many of them do work. Mind you it is challenging to make a mono/poly relationship work, it takes a lot of communication, dedication, and a willingness to compromise. The same goes for if the poly part is non-hierarchical. Tree has to do more than just claim that you are equal to his other girlfriend, he has to prove it by his actions. If he is running everything through her first, that is not fair, that is not what he promised you he would do.

Only you can decide whether this particular mono/poly relationship (with its insecurity) is something that you can do. You have decided to break up with him. Usually your first thought is the most accurate thought, so I am not inclined to advise you to second-guess yourself. You seem to know that you need more in a relationship than Tree is willing or able to give you. You can still love him, even if you break up with him. Good luck, I hope everything works out for you.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Thabk you so much for taking the time to read my story. Thank you so much for these kind and gentle advices and analyses. It means a lot to me. I wish you all the best in your lives
 
You're very welcome, I'm glad we could help.
 
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