Abrupt ending in long-term open marriage

Annalove

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Seeking perspective after an abrupt ending in a long-term open marriage.

I was involved with a married couple who have been in an open marriage for about 15 years and have kids. Throughout their marriage, his wife has been allowed to sleep with other men, often encouraged by her husband. He has been clear that he does not experience jealousy around her partners.

Historically, he has only had a few connections with other women, and those agreements were “out of sight, out of mind.” Those relationships were more superficial and not integrated into their shared life.

This time was different.

His wife and I connected first — warm, flirty, playful. I was very respectful of their marriage and didn’t consider her husband at all until she explicitly invited me in and encouraged the connection. I became the first woman ever fully allowed into their shared dynamic with both of them. His wife and I were intimate at times, and she was consistently warm and welcoming toward me.

I knew she struggled with the situation at times, but she also said repeatedly that she knew I was good for him and that I could give him things she couldn’t. Early on, she reached out directly to communicate when she felt uncomfortable with certain things, and I respected that. I appreciated that she was trying to navigate something new.

What none of us expected was how deeply her husband and I connected.

This wasn’t casual. It was emotionally intimate and soul-level deep. He reassured me constantly that I was never “too much” and led me further into the relationship. We shared a vision that involved all three of us. He even said that if he could have two wives, he would — and I loved that idea. I never wanted him to leave his wife or disrupt their family. I respected their marriage fully.

There were even a few occasions where he impulsively broke up with me to focus on their marriage, and his wife was the one who pushed him to reconnect with me and continue the relationship, expressing that she supported it.

Toward the end, everything shifted. When he finally ended things, he told me that she had actually been jealous the entire time, and that he hadn’t told me because he was “protecting” me from it. This was devastating and confusing, because I wish she could have communicated that directly with me. I never wanted another woman to feel hurt or threatened.

The ending itself was abrupt and traumatic.

During a fight between them, he called me while she was present, yelled that it was over, told me to never contact him again, and said I needed to apologize to her. It felt like I was suddenly being framed as someone trying to infiltrate their marriage and family — which deeply hurt, because I am not a homewrecker and have always been respectful.

Later, he called again alone, crying and apologizing, saying I did nothing wrong — that he simply didn’t have the capacity anymore cause she was too jealous and she’s not wired that way.

What I’m struggling with most is feeling disposable — and feeling as though the depth, care, and respect I brought into this was erased at the end.

I was supportive. I followed his lead. I cared about both of them. To lose something this meaningful — and to have it end in a way that made me feel like a threat rather than a human being who loved deeply — has been devastating.

I’m heartbroken to know she was struggling. And angry that the ending didn’t represent the love we shared, that my feelings didn’t matter as much as hers. He told me not to let this come in the way of my friendship with her and that she loves me.

I’m absolutely devastated.

Do I reach out to her? Should I expect a deeper apology from him?
 
Hello Annalove,

It seems to me that they have both been dishonest with you, and disloyal to you at the end. I personally would cut the ties with them, they are not good friends to you. But, you must decide what you need to get closure, you do not have it at this point in time. Yes you should be able to have a continuing relationship with her, and a deeper apology from him. But my gut instinct tells me that they will never give you those things, and even if they pretend, you can't believe them anymore. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
Seeking perspective after an abrupt ending in a long-term open marriage
I was involved with a married couple who have been in an open marriage for about 15 years and have kids. Throughout their marriage, his wife has been allowed to sleep with other men, often encouraged by her husband. He has been clear that he does not experience jealousy around her partners.

Historically, he has only had a few connections with other women, and those agreements were “out of sight, out of mind.” Those relationships were more superficial and not integrated into their shared life.

This time was different.

His wife and I connected first — warm, flirty, playful. I was very respectful of their marriage and didn’t consider her husband at all until she explicitly invited me in and encouraged the connection. I became the first woman ever fully allowed into their shared dynamic with both of them. His wife and I were intimate at times, and she was consistently warm and welcoming toward me.

I knew she struggled with the situation at times, but she also said repeatedly that she knew I was good for him and that I could give him things she couldn’t. Early on, she reached out directly to communicate when she felt uncomfortable with certain things, and I respected that. I appreciated that she was trying to navigate something new.

What none of us expected was how deeply her husband and I connected.

This wasn’t casual. It was emotionally intimate and soul-level deep. He reassured me constantly that I was never “too much” and led me further into the relationship. We shared a vision that involved all three of us. He even said that if he could have two wives, he would — and I loved that idea. I never wanted him to leave his wife or disrupt their family. I respected their marriage fully.

There were even a few occasions where he impulsively broke up with me to focus on their marriage, and his wife was the one who pushed him to reconnect with me and continue the relationship, expressing that she supported it.

Toward the end, everything shifted. When he finally ended things, he told me that she had actually been jealous the entire time, and that he hadn’t told me because he was “protecting” me from it. This was devastating and confusing, because I wish she could have communicated that directly with me. I never wanted another woman to feel hurt or threatened.

The ending itself was abrupt and traumatic.

During a fight between them, he called me while she was present, yelled that it was over, told me to never contact him again, and said I needed to apologize to her. It felt like I was suddenly being framed as someone trying to infiltrate their marriage and family — which deeply hurt, because I am not a homewrecker and have always been respectful.

Later, he called again alone, crying and apologizing, saying I did nothing wrong — that he simply didn’t have the capacity anymore cause she was too jealous and she’s not wired that way.

What I’m struggling with most is feeling disposable — and feeling as though the depth, care, and respect I brought into this was erased at the end.

I was supportive. I followed his lead. I cared about both of them. To lose something this meaningful — and to have it end in a way that made me feel like a threat rather than a human being who loved deeply — has been devastating.
I’m heartbroken to know she was struggling. And angry that the ended didn’t represent the love we shared- that my feelings didn’t matter as much as hers. He told me not to let this come in the way of my friendship with her and that she loves me.

I’m absolutely devastated.
Do I reach out to her? Should I expect a deeper apology from him?
Non-monogamous relationships can unearth a lot of very intense emotions, often ones that have been simmering for a while.

It seems like both of them, in their own ways, have let these intense emotions hurt you quite deeply. You seemed to have different, but still meaningful, connections with both of them, so it's understandable that this is especially bewildering and agonizing.

I would recommend talking to trusted loved ones about your situation if you have that opportunity. Otherwise, feel free to continue discussing your situation on here. With that being said, no one can answer what you should do except you. I've found that my intuition has carried me through similar situations that felt overwhelming, after I gave myself some space to breathe.
 
No, don't contact him/them again. They're a mess. They can't offer you anything but more confusion and chaos. Hold your head up high and walk away. Taking someone back after they have broken up with you more than once, proving he isn't loyal to you, erodes not just your trust, but your self-esteem. Don't do it.

Seriously, F them.

Think of all you have to give to a relationship, and move on to people who can appreciate it. Go no contact, at least for the time being, so you can get some distance from this mess and heal without them messing with your peace. Block them, do not respond to attempted contact, move on to something better with pride and self-compassion. Wish you the best.
 
Ouch!

I'm so sorry this happened.

I wonder how long you were involved with this couple. You don't seem to say.

It appears they were attempting to move to polyamory after having had a history of being open more to casual sex, maybe a "hotwife" dynamic, where the wife could go take male lovers, but the husband didn't focus much on having lovers of his own. When he did, the liaisons were short-lived.

Their communication with each other and with you was less than stellar, putting it mildly.

All that said, this is why I have such a problem with swinging and triads both. They are just too prone to disconnection and to jealousy/envy.

Clear and open polyamory, and couples dating as individuals, is, to my mind, cleaner, more balanced, more authentic and much much easier to navigate.

I know you're in the midst of feeling devastated. Take care of yourself. Do good things for yourself. Rest, nourish. Take little walks. (Exercise really lifts one's mood.) Seek distractions from the pain from friends, doing enjoyable activities, as you can, on days when you can move off the couch.

If the depression at this betrayal is too hard to handle on your own, seek a counselor. You're grieving a loss, and your whole world and your understanding of it, has taken a huge blow.

Once you start to heal, you will have learned powerful lessons about dating, about trust, about verifying who you can trust.
 
Seeking perspective after an abrupt ending in a long-term open marriage.

I was involved with a married couple who have been in an open marriage for about 15 years and have kids. Throughout their marriage, his wife has been allowed to sleep with other men, often encouraged by her husband. He has been clear that he does not experience jealousy around her partners.

Historically, he has only had a few connections with other women, and those agreements were “out of sight, out of mind.” Those relationships were more superficial and not integrated into their shared life.

This time was different.

His wife and I connected first — warm, flirty, playful. I was very respectful of their marriage and didn’t consider her husband at all until she explicitly invited me in and encouraged the connection. I became the first woman ever fully allowed into their shared dynamic with both of them. His wife and I were intimate at times, and she was consistently warm and welcoming toward me.

I knew she struggled with the situation at times, but she also said repeatedly that she knew I was good for him and that I could give him things she couldn’t. Early on, she reached out directly to communicate when she felt uncomfortable with certain things, and I respected that. I appreciated that she was trying to navigate something new.

What none of us expected was how deeply her husband and I connected.

This wasn’t casual. It was emotionally intimate and soul-level deep. He reassured me constantly that I was never “too much” and led me further into the relationship. We shared a vision that involved all three of us. He even said that if he could have two wives, he would — and I loved that idea. I never wanted him to leave his wife or disrupt their family. I respected their marriage fully.

There were even a few occasions where he impulsively broke up with me to focus on their marriage, and his wife was the one who pushed him to reconnect with me and continue the relationship, expressing that she supported it.

Toward the end, everything shifted. When he finally ended things, he told me that she had actually been jealous the entire time, and that he hadn’t told me because he was “protecting” me from it. This was devastating and confusing, because I wish she could have communicated that directly with me. I never wanted another woman to feel hurt or threatened.

The ending itself was abrupt and traumatic.

During a fight between them, he called me while she was present, yelled that it was over, told me to never contact him again, and said I needed to apologize to her. It felt like I was suddenly being framed as someone trying to infiltrate their marriage and family — which deeply hurt, because I am not a homewrecker and have always been respectful.

Later, he called again alone, crying and apologizing, saying I did nothing wrong — that he simply didn’t have the capacity anymore cause she was too jealous and she’s not wired that way.

What I’m struggling with most is feeling disposable — and feeling as though the depth, care, and respect I brought into this was erased at the end.

I was supportive. I followed his lead. I cared about both of them. To lose something this meaningful — and to have it end in a way that made me feel like a threat rather than a human being who loved deeply — has been devastating.

I’m heartbroken to know she was struggling. And angry that the ending didn’t represent the love we shared, that my feelings didn’t matter as much as hers. He told me not to let this come in the way of my friendship with her and that she loves me.

I’m absolutely devastated.

Do I reach out to her? Should I expect a deeper apology from him?
Hello there. Its seems to are dealing with something very important that needs time to heal. If you wish, you can always message me and i will try to help you
 
Seeking perspective after an abrupt ending in a long-term open marriage.

Well...

You encountered open marriage that has not very atypical structure constructed to make sure the marriage stays most important and secure, by accomodating the preferences of the two people involved that were incompatible with standard marriage structure. It apparently worked for a while at least from the above perspective (there might be some skeletons of previous "thirds" that you aren't aware of). Notice how theres nothing about the preferences of the potential third party, which, however not necessarily bad, is likely bad.

Enter you.

Unforeseen things happen. This structure, as is typical, did try to rule the behaviours, but didn't do that with feelings (or did and failed, understandably). Much anxiety and struggl, at first unforeseen on their part. Apparently the wife had "one heart, mine" preference, that was very much against your relationship. Oh and it was very likely unspoken - she might have even been in denial about it.

Digression: jealousy is an emotion of fear, typically of losing something. Many many people make an assumption that they don't feel jealousy or somehow grew out of it, including polyamorous people.

These people are sort of landmines, as they will try to deny feeling it and explode when the pressure becomes too strong.

So that's likely what happened.

And there's unlikely to be good ending. He, yes, he probably had genuine loving relationship with you (which made the situation all the worse), but is more tied to his wife than you and she is dominant party in that relationship, so in the end she'll give him an ultimatum and he'll accept, most likely.

They will close for ever or construct even stupider structure that will forbid feelings.

Meanwhile you'll grieve and move on eventually.
 
She was not honest. Maybe just with her husband. Maybe with everyone, including herself.
He was too willing to throw you under the bus. After how deeply he let you believe you mattered in their space, that willingness does not go away because he cried. You'll go under again the next time things get hard.
They blamed you for their fuck-ups. Don't go back. Learn and move on. You deserved better.
 
Seeking perspective after an abrupt ending in a long-term open marriage.

I was involved with a married couple who have been in an open marriage for about 15 years and have kids. Throughout their marriage, his wife has been allowed to sleep with other men, often encouraged by her husband. He has been clear that he does not experience jealousy around her partners.

Historically, he has only had a few connections with other women, and those agreements were “out of sight, out of mind.” Those relationships were more superficial and not integrated into their shared life.

This time was different.

His wife and I connected first — warm, flirty, playful. I was very respectful of their marriage and didn’t consider her husband at all until she explicitly invited me in and encouraged the connection. I became the first woman ever fully allowed into their shared dynamic with both of them. His wife and I were intimate at times, and she was consistently warm and welcoming toward me.

I knew she struggled with the situation at times, but she also said repeatedly that she knew I was good for him and that I could give him things she couldn’t. Early on, she reached out directly to communicate when she felt uncomfortable with certain things, and I respected that. I appreciated that she was trying to navigate something new.

What none of us expected was how deeply her husband and I connected.

This wasn’t casual. It was emotionally intimate and soul-level deep. He reassured me constantly that I was never “too much” and led me further into the relationship. We shared a vision that involved all three of us. He even said that if he could have two wives, he would — and I loved that idea. I never wanted him to leave his wife or disrupt their family. I respected their marriage fully.

There were even a few occasions where he impulsively broke up with me to focus on their marriage, and his wife was the one who pushed him to reconnect with me and continue the relationship, expressing that she supported it.

Toward the end, everything shifted. When he finally ended things, he told me that she had actually been jealous the entire time, and that he hadn’t told me because he was “protecting” me from it. This was devastating and confusing, because I wish she could have communicated that directly with me. I never wanted another woman to feel hurt or threatened.

The ending itself was abrupt and traumatic.

During a fight between them, he called me while she was present, yelled that it was over, told me to never contact him again, and said I needed to apologize to her. It felt like I was suddenly being framed as someone trying to infiltrate their marriage and family — which deeply hurt, because I am not a homewrecker and have always been respectful.

Later, he called again alone, crying and apologizing, saying I did nothing wrong — that he simply didn’t have the capacity anymore cause she was too jealous and she’s not wired that way.

What I’m struggling with most is feeling disposable — and feeling as though the depth, care, and respect I brought into this was erased at the end.

I was supportive. I followed his lead. I cared about both of them. To lose something this meaningful — and to have it end in a way that made me feel like a threat rather than a human being who loved deeply — has been devastating.

I’m heartbroken to know she was struggling. And angry that the ending didn’t represent the love we shared, that my feelings didn’t matter as much as hers. He told me not to let this come in the way of my friendship with her and that she loves me.

I’m absolutely devastated.

Do I reach out to her? Should I expect a deeper apology from him?

That really sucks, heartbreak is one of the worst emotions one can feel.

I'd honestly block their numbers and get on with your life, get to healing, enjoy your hobbies and take some time for yourself. Describing what happened, it sounds like their lives are full of chaos and dishonesty, two things you don't want in your own life.
Far too often have I seen couples wanting to invite another person into their lives and saying this and that, but the truth is a lot of them just want to have some fun, or they're looking to replace something missing in their own relationship. Avoid these like the plague, because those negative things will only end up badly, and be thrown onto you. I wish you the best.
 
I think the kindest interpretation is that the wife tried to be okay with her husband having a serious girlfriend, and that she liked you as a person and maybe liked the idea of her husband dating you in theory, but she was not prepared for the reality of a full poly relationship where she would end up with a co-wife. It's a drastic change to her relationship structure with her husband, after all.

Maybe she didn't know how to talk to you about that, or tried not to show her jealousy to you, but was being honest about it with her husband.

I don't think the husband handled this well. I don't think you did anything wrong.

But I think you should move on with your life without trying to contact them. They've got their own issues to sort out.

I'm sorry they pulled you into their dynamic and have now cast you out. It's not fair to you, and it makes sense to feel hurt.

But I don't think there's anything you can do about it, except move on with your life.
 
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