Are there certain states where you find it easier to be poly in?

DubbaFuzzy

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I guess my question is are there certain states in which being poly seems more accepted, and that you find more people open to the idea of it?

Cause i live in california and yes there are poly people here. Buy most people seem closed minded when it comes to alot out here, compared to other places i see that have tons of local events. "Iowa, illinois, Ohio, utah" ext.

Do think a change of location could make all the difference when it comes to finding like minded people?
 
We lived in the Midwest (Ohio and Indiana) and had a hard time meeting poly people we connected well with (for friends or relationships). Since moving to the west coast (various towns in the Portland Metro area and a brief stint in Seattle) we have found tons of people we enjoy for friendship and more. So, yes. For us, location mattered.
 
The states of Portland, Seattle and Vancouver are Poly-Central. :p I'd go for cities that have active and growing poly communities rather than thinking about states. States are BIG. Where in California are you? California is enormous and some areas are extremely conservative.
 
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Maryland has a vibrant poly scene. I would also say that the neighboring states plus DC also do as well. But I've never lived elsewhere as a poly person so I do not have comparable experience with other regions.
 
I don't focus on a poly centric social life so I have no idea what is local.
 
The states of Portland, Seattle and Vancouver are Poly-Central. :p I'd go for cities that have active and growing poly communities rather than thinking about states. States are BIG. Where in California are you? California is enormous and some areas are extremely conservative.

This is a fantastic answer. I have no experience of ever living in California, but I've heard from a number of people that large swathes of the state are way more conservative than people think. Funny how much of the country views the "left coast" as "flakes, fruits, nuts" and ultra liberal. Nope. Only parts of California are that way, and it's been my observation left/right-ish (it's often not that simple) political leanings have a lot to do with whether a place is more urban or rural. So in cities, there is often more tolerance because people have to get along and coexist. In the country, people can be defensive of their property and resources, suspicious of anything that is different, etc. It just sort of naturally nudges populations in certain directions, if not in an absolute way.

Also, cities being population centers, it is easier to date. When you're in the country, and you or your date has to drive an hour to meet up, that's tough. Unless long distance relationships are your thing...

Then there are your regional attitudes. The east coast, I found was less surface-level friendly but more genuine. The west coast was extremely friendly and welcoming, but just under that veneer, was a tendency to use people and backstab them. Lots of fakery. In the rust belt cities like Cincinnati when I lived there, it was all survival, but the punk and arts scene was pretty interesting. Establishment versus subversive youth was the vibe I got there. The midwest (Iowa) was all down to earth common sense...people were very friendly, and wouldn't necessarily screw you over, but didn't want to talk about uncomfortable topics very often. I don't have much experience of the south...but I know I like the food.

So with that in mind... I'd expect in west coast CITIES (some of them, especially the big ones, and especially in OR/WA) to easily meet people and make friends, but to discover unpleasant things about them or be surprised by how they acted once the true colors started to show. On the east coast, I'd expect the opposite...finding your people and getting your foot in the door may be a challenge (you really almost need to know somebody) but once you're in, people will connect with you in genuine if sometimes harshly honest ways. I wouldn't even try to be involved in an alt lifestyle in the midwest, though I'm sure plenty of people do.

Now Colorado... Colorado is lifestyle heaven. But here in the Springs, we keep it pretty shush. We're a little afraid of outsiders coming in and shaping things or overpopulating too much (we already have water shortage problems.) So we let you all think it's a mecca of ultra conservative right wingers and religious pundits, we let Focus on the Family scream and holler and scare people off. And then we quietly gather by the hundreds at the gay bar and the kink club and the private parties, or drive up to Denver for one of the biggest kink conventions in the country, etc. I know a crap-ton of poly people here. But until I got on fetlife and found our alt community, I had NO IDEA. And so many people, even natives who have lived here their whole lives, are shocked to find out what people get up to...

As for our regional attitude, I've found it to be a perfect mixture of everything I've named. Down to earth but sophisticated, artsy and funky...friendly, yet genuine. A cool blend of realism and idealism. I've never lived in such a "just right" place, ever, and I've lived in lots of places.
 
This is a fantastic answer. I have no experience of ever living in California, but I've heard from a number of people that large swathes of the state are way more conservative than people think. Funny how much of the country views the "left coast" as "flakes, fruits, nuts" and ultra liberal. Nope. Only parts of California are that way, and it's been my observation left/right-ish (it's often not that simple) political leanings have a lot to do with whether a place is more urban or rural. So in cities, there is often more tolerance because people have to get along and coexist. In the country, people can be defensive of their property and resources, suspicious of anything that is different, etc. It just sort of naturally nudges populations in certain directions, if not in an absolute way.

Also, cities being population centers, it is easier to date. When you're in the country, and you or your date has to drive an hour to meet up, that's tough. Unless long distance relationships are your thing...

Then there are your regional attitudes. The east coast, I found was less surface-level friendly but more genuine. The west coast was extremely friendly and welcoming, but just under that veneer, was a tendency to use people and backstab them. Lots of fakery. In the rust belt cities like Cincinnati when I lived there, it was all survival, but the punk and arts scene was pretty interesting. Establishment versus subversive youth was the vibe I got there. The midwest (Iowa) was all down to earth common sense...people were very friendly, and wouldn't necessarily screw you over, but didn't want to talk about uncomfortable topics very often. I don't have much experience of the south...but I know I like the food.

So with that in mind... I'd expect in west coast CITIES (some of them, especially the big ones, and especially in OR/WA) to easily meet people and make friends, but to discover unpleasant things about them or be surprised by how they acted once the true colors started to show. On the east coast, I'd expect the opposite...finding your people and getting your foot in the door may be a challenge (you really almost need to know somebody) but once you're in, people will connect with you in genuine if sometimes harshly honest ways. I wouldn't even try to be involved in an alt lifestyle in the midwest, though I'm sure plenty of people do.

Now Colorado... Colorado is lifestyle heaven. But here in the Springs, we keep it pretty shush. We're a little afraid of outsiders coming in and shaping things or overpopulating too much (we already have water shortage problems.) So we let you all think it's a mecca of ultra conservative right wingers and religious pundits, we let Focus on the Family scream and holler and scare people off. And then we quietly gather by the hundreds at the gay bar and the kink club and the private parties, or drive up to Denver for one of the biggest kink conventions in the country, etc. I know a crap-ton of poly people here. But until I got on fetlife and found our alt community, I had NO IDEA. And so many people, even natives who have lived here their whole lives, are shocked to find out what people get up to...

As for our regional attitude, I've found it to be a perfect mixture of everything I've named. Down to earth but sophisticated, artsy and funky...friendly, yet genuine. A cool blend of realism and idealism. I've never lived in such a "just right" place, ever, and I've lived in lots of places.

I've not experienced the backstabby nature you mention. Only one person that I've encountered here has been like that, and it didn't take long to realize how bitter she was.
 
Hi DubbaFuzzy,

In general I would recommend the west/coastal areas of Washington State and Oregon. But there are "poly cities" here and there all over the country. Check out this thread: Poly-Friendly Cities.

Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
I've not experienced the backstabby nature you mention. Only one person that I've encountered here has been like that, and it didn't take long to realize how bitter she was.

I lived between Seattle and Portland. I had several friends who were all smiley smiles and "I love you, you're so awesome, you're the BEST" and then asking to borrow rent money and eating my food and trying to take advantage. I've also heard that in LA, everyone is super friendly, but they are just trying to figure out if there's anything in it for them to associate with you. If you can't contribute to their success, they'll drop you with a smile and move on to the next person.

Whereas when I lived in northern Virginia, I actually got a bit offended when strangers told me to "have a nice day." I was like, "You don't know me!! What do you care what kind of a day I have???" Surface hostility and not very casually friendly. But once I accepted someone as one of "my people" we'd do anything for each other. We were like family.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong though, I loved the Pacific Northwest, for many reasons. The scenery is unparalleled, and the arts & music scene is really amazing. And I did enjoy some of my interactions with people up there...but I was there 4 years, and in that time, several of the locals that I allowed into my life tried to get over on me and I had to push them out. It got annoying.
 
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I lived in Seattle for 20 years and it's an amazing town. There's no other place like it on earth: urban, economically bursting, tolerant, diverse, healthy healthy healthy, cultured, vibrant, lots of interesting, community oriented people, entrepreneurial heaven and a great place to raise kids. I have to say, Spork, that I did not experience the fake smiles that you describe, although that kind of thing crops up everywhere. If I ever do a crazy thing like retire, it will be back to Seattle for me.
 
I lived in Seattle for 20 years and it's an amazing town. There's no other place like it on earth: urban, economically bursting, tolerant, diverse, healthy healthy healthy, cultured, vibrant, lots of interesting, community oriented people, entrepreneurial heaven and a great place to raise kids. I have to say, Spork, that I did not experience the fake smiles that you describe, although that kind of thing crops up everywhere. If I ever do a crazy thing like retire, it will be back to Seattle for me.

Do you have any family in that area? You bear a strong resemblance to a woman I used to work with, that's why I'm asking. Her last name was Clear, now she married and hypenated it to her husband's I think... The structure of your face reminds me of her.

I stay in touch with her, she was one of the good ones, for sure!
 
I do, but they are on my adopted side. My blood people live mostly in California, but then, we're all scattered DNA, aren't we? Americans, I mean.

Yeah, for sure. M'lady Fire is convinced I've got something "exotic" :)confused:) like Native or Asian in my genetic crockpot, but I've traced back a lot of my family and it all goes back to Europe so far, mostly English.

We're all mutts here! :D
 
I was doing some major research a while back on state poly laws and trying to locate communities to live in. Some of that I wrote about it in my journal. We're in Maryland right now, and their laws are pretty great. I think you'll find groups and neighborhoods everywhere - you can't classify a state overall, other than to say whether you're apt to be arrested or not.
 
I've only been polyamorous in three states, so I clearly don't have a definitive answer yet. :D

In my mind, Eugene (OR) will always be Ground Zero for polyfidelity. That's where PEP started, before Ryam et al ran off to Hawaii & quit all that polyfi nonsense. ;) Then again, it's butted right up to Springfield, which is a haven for militant NeoNazi skinheads who like to cruise around & beat down "weird" people.

All in all, Minneapolis/Saint Paul is great. It's an urban setting yet not oppressively dense. Long-established "out" gay culture, activist bi community (like the BECAUSE conference), a semi-public Wicca/magick community since the early 1970s (starting from Llewellyn Publishing), BDSM, nudist/Naturist stronghold. And all of these cross over freely at the Renaissance Festival, assorted science-fiction conventions, Pride Week, music venues.

You'd think that Santa Fe (NM) would be all hip / trendy & therefore down with the deviance. Really, except for events & holidays, it's smaller than Fargo/Moorhead, & only slightly less Rightward. When I left in 2006, it felt like GLBTQetc was still a novelty, about at the stage of Minneapolis in 1978, & there were more than a few acquaintances who shunned me when my book came out, usually with some wisecrack about how I was advocating an end to monogamy & promoting adultery. :eek: I never got that much stiffnecked crap from the Twin Cities in two decades of being openly poly, & at my age it seemed like too much work to start over with zero-state education.
 
It sounds in a way luxurious to be able to think in these terms, like which city or state is the more poly friendly. There are not really any poly friendly parts of my country, and most things happen if I and some friends organize them in the two largest cities. One of my friends said that I "made things difficult for myself", because I fell in love with a man from Turkey, but so far we have dated long distance 2,5 years and their V broke up, so I dont know...

There are so many ways to meet people, if you want a lover. And even more ways if you want a friend. There are some advantages to making friends in a smaller group, at least if the people get along, because then you talk to everyone and you get more of a community feeeling.

So, no harm in moving to get better options, just remember that moving should give you better options in all of your life, so be sure to visit and perhaps make some friends there before you decide to make a big decition.
 
So, no harm in moving to get better options, just remember that moving should give you better options in all of your life, so be sure to visit and perhaps make some friends there before you decide to make a big decition.

^ I agree lots with this part.

Also I think it's important if one is considering a move, to really think through the practical considerations. Cost of living, job prospects, housing markets, etc. Seems like common sense. But I live in Colorado and man have I seen a lot of "no common sense" people moving here! It used to be that we'd get a lot of transplants from California because they'd realize that they could sell their modest house for a bazillion dollars and move to another fairly hip state with lots of outdoors fun and natural beauty, and the cost of living is much less here than in Cali.

And that was one thing.

But now that we legalized weed, we've got people coming here from everywhere just because of that. Lots of people with no real plan, as far as where they will live and work, just passionate about pot. This is not a very good state to be homeless in, the weather is seriously hard to predict and we get all kinds of crazy snowstorms and stuff all the way through spring. The cost of living isn't as high as the coasts, but it's higher than most of the interior of the nation. It's a pretty rugged state, too, and we have pretty scary limitations to our water resources. Also any part of this place could burn down at any moment. I love Colorado...but I don't think it's the kind of place anyone should plan to move to and just "wing it and hope for the best."
 
I also live in Cali and you would think it's more open but sadly it's not. I live an hour away from San Francisco and it's like a totally different world. Very opposite of sf. I wish I lived in a town that was more poly friendly. Here an open women like my self looking for a boyfriend outside of my marriage is frowned upon. It's looked at as why are you doing that to him. I hope that time and more open minds will change that or who knows I would love to move to another state someday.
 
It may depend on what groups you hang out with, though an hour from SF can take you pretty far out into the boonies. The California coast was largely settled (after the Spanish/Mexican settlers) by North Easterners who sailed here. The interior was settled by people who walked here, largely from the deep south. Thus the cultural divide in the state.

Leetah
 
It may depend on what groups you hang out with, though an hour from SF can take you pretty far out into the boonies. The California coast was largely settled (after the Spanish/Mexican settlers) by North Easterners who sailed here. The interior was settled by people who walked here, largely from the deep south. Thus the cultural divide in the state.

Leetah


Modesto area. The circles are here are pretty conservative. Heck 90% of my Facebook friends are (mostly cousins and friends from school)
 
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