Boundaries and Metamours

LokiAelf

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Hey, this is my first post, a bit of a tale it is

perhaps i can sum it up nicely

so; I've been seeing someone for almost two years. We were explicitly poly from about a week in

Five months in they asked to move into my room for winter, I agreed, having never co-habited before

We lived together there for about a year, and had our challenges with metamours.. mostly that they had a few coming by at different times, and it always made me a bit uncomfortable in the space..

one time a meta "missed their train" and slept on a lounge.. I went to sleep with my lover, awoke and rolled over to an empty bed.. it was a bit of a jolt, but they had gone to sleep with the meta during the night..

anyway, we ultimately realised the tension around metamours wasn't great and moved out, into separate houses. They had a bad run with housing, leaving the first place, finding a sublet for a month, and then finally asking to move in with me again for a month or so while they found somewhere else..

my gut instinct was to say no, but I care about them and wanted to help them, so I said yes instead, reasoning it was only for a little while.

A night or two before they moved in, I ended up getting cuddly with my housemate pretty much by accident. It was loving and warm, but we agreed not to take it any further, partly for community cohesion and partly to protect my lover, who was about to move in.

I told my lover and they were at first a bit overwhelmed, and then soon afterwards very intentionally set out to find a new lover.. they played "35 questions" and were soon coming back with stories of hot sex and general bounds of NRE.

By now we'd hardly had sex all year. We're often cuddling at night, but are both unfulfilled sexually. So in a way it was nice to know they were getting what they wanted..

things started to get a little challenging when they bought their lover over to our house..

they had said the new lover would be hanging out 'for a bit'. 24 broken (by various comings and goings) hours later I return to the house and they were still rolling around in the communal lounge room.. It didn't feel great to say the least, and I communicated my feelings to them, they thanked me gracefully.

The next time, they checked in really well.. asked if it was ok, asked about time limits etc. It felt really nice and I felt respected etc. they ultimately settled on the new lover leaving after breakfast.. so they did, come midday.. late breakfast I suppose.

So, we'd checked in well, I'd compromised and been ok with them sleeping together in an outside room on the property.

We were about to go away and they spent the next night and day with the new lover somewhere else, and then, the evening before we were to leave, when I just wanted to pack and rest, they send a message announcing they were coming back with their new lover in an hour (in my car, 5 hours after Id expected them to be back so I could start packing etc.)

at this point I simply said "no thanks". I realised I hadnt been saying no enough in life, and sticking by my boundaries. so I did. They were upset, and the meta went home. I offered to drive my lover to the metas house after we were done packing. Ultimately I just let them take my car and do it themselves.. I cuddled my housemate instead..

So fast forward. We're back, lover is leaving on adventures tomorrow. They want to hang out with their new lover. They ask, and say "but you probably wouldn't be into it".

I disagree and say it's fine, just that last time I didn't feel well checked in with. I say I'm cool with them hanging out in one of the spare rooms..

pause.. they ask if they can hang out in the lounge

for context, its winter. the lounge is the only warm place in the house. I dont feel that comfortable hanging around the intense NRE that I no longer feel/ experience at this time. It makes me fairly sad. I also don't want to exile myself to my freezing room

so I'm reluctant. They are sad. crying a little.. we start talking it through, they say they feel strangled and that they can't do what they want to, hint at not wanting to hang out as lovers after they move out. I explain (perhaps shittily) how I feel like because we're not living together long-term I don't necessarily want to co-exist with their Metas..

before we get anywhere, our housemates come in and ask if they are ok.. they say "no", that they want to "break stuff", and head out the door letting out a piercing shriek.

I send a message.. they are out now with meta.. leaving tomorrow.

but I am confused... am I being inconsiderate for setting limits on my lovers interactions with meta's in the house we share for a short while? Or justified in setting boundaries, and being open to them shifting through time?

TLDR;

My lover asked to share my room for a month, and is now shitty that I don't want them hanging out with their metamours in our lounge room, cause I just wanna be able to make a cup of tea without feeling weird/awkward.

I'm fine with them doing whatever they want in an outside room in the house, or anywhere else, infact.

I just set a boundary, and they reacted very badly.

Should I cave in to their upset or stick with my boundary?

Noting that sticking with my boundary may well lead to them not wanting to hang out anymore


**EDIT**
Also noting that the reason they can't hang out at new lover's house is because new lover's partner isn't into it.. so I feel even more confused.. I'm allowing more compromise then the other partner involved
 
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Set your boundaries and stick to them. A relationship isn't all about the other person, you have a place as well. If you are uncomfortable, listen. Its not a bad thing to say I won't want this, or I am not comfortable with this. You have to advocate for yourself.

When you set a boundary and the other person doesn't respect it, that's them. I am not saying they can't ask or talk to you about it but that should be a discussion not a guilt inducing scenario that the other person gets to lay on you.
 
Your boundaries are not unreaslistic, unreasonable, or imposing a huge burden on them.

Stick to them. I can understand them being upset when the discussion happened, they had certain plans that were changed by you. When things have calmed down hopefully they will be able to communicate better.

Maybe setting aside a time to talk as 'roommates only' may help. Discuss the mundane things, washing, cleaning, space separation etc if they need to return.
 
Am I being inconsiderate for setting limits on my lovers interactions with meta's in the house we share for a short while?

It is not inconsiderate. It is your home. They are a guest in your home. You are allowed to set limits for use of your property and ask your guest to respect the rules of the home, clean up after themselves, etc. They were supposed to stay for a month while looking for a new place.

Instead, it sounds like your guest keeps bringing guests of their own at all hours rather than moving on with getting their own space. And worse, wants to be making out or whatever in the common areas like the lounge where you or your housemate can walk in on that. There's a time and place for voyeuring -- and when a person just wants to eat breakfast or do their laundry they don't need to be walking in on that.

Your guest is being super disrespectful. Presumably they could just go to their other partner's home rather than here. Or make out in their guest room in your home and get extra blanket or a space heater or whatever if it is too cold. You sound fine with that -- you just don't want making out in common areas.

Part of it is on you for allowing this situation again after the first time you two tried living together and it was a mess.

my gut instinct was to say no, but I care about them and wanted to help them, so I said yes instead, reasoning it was only for a little while.

So basically you went in expecting same old mess. But decided that you could put up with it for a month.

You chose not listen to your gut instinct and respect your own limit. Learn to respect you own limit. Learn to listen to your gut. Learn to say "No, thank you."

Find other ways to demonstrate care and wanting to help in a way that doesn't put you out or lead to the living together mess from before. Like offer to help them do laundry at the laundromat. Or offer to treat them to dinner and a movie to air out. Offer to go with them to tour new places to live or help clean it once secured. Stuff you CAN deal with.

Or justified in setting boundaries, and being open to them shifting through time?

I think in this case with this partner, you cannot be open to shifting boundaries. It has to be a hard limit and not a soft limit that can change over time. Just don't live together. It just has to be firm because this partner seems to take advantage. Give an inch take a mile type.

Your boundaries are not for them to respect. Your boundaries are for YOU to respect with consequences YOU can do. If you break your boundary and don't listen to yourself? You allow this person to live with you, and it becomes a mess again? Then the consequence YOU can do is ask them to leave to bring the current mess to a close. Then resolve to be more firm in future about keeping your own boundary.

Then you don't have to be dealing with not being respected when your guest brings more guests and whatever other messes.

They can deal with their guests at THEIR place and it doesn't affect you any more because it simply does not apply any more.

I just set a boundary, and they reacted very badly. Should I cave in to their upset or stick with my boundary?

So they are upset. So? Maybe this helps you deal with anger from the other person when you set a boundary. It isn't your problem. It is theirs.

IME, what happens when selfish people are called into account and asked to exercise some self control? They have a tantrum like a little kid. They don't WANT to think about how their actions can affect others. They don't WANT to change behavior. They want to go through life only thinking about their own pleasure. So they act out and sulk. Instead of taking personal responsibility and apologizing for their behavior? They act like you are a big meanie for not pretending to look the other way so they can keep on with the shenanigans.

If you are a bad behaving guest and your host says "Hey, I feel disrespected when I see you do ____. That doesn't work for me. I need this visit to end. I cannot host you like this any more. I prefer in my home you do __ and if you want to do ___ I prefer you do it at your own home."

What did they expect? For the host to go "Yay! I love you running around my personal home all willy nilly and not respecting me, my boundaries, or the rules of the home!" They get mad because what? They want you to be a door mat and you don't want to be?

Some people are just fresh.

they say they feel strangled and that they can't do what they want to, hint at not wanting to hang out as lovers after they move out.

If they feel strangled here? All the more reason to move out to their OWN place so they do not feel strangled. Then they can feel free TO do whatever they want.

And you can be free FROM the behaviors you dislike. So where is problem? Visit ends, they move out.

If they don't want to be lovers any more after moving out, that's a separate issue. And it is ok. You guys could let that end too. But def end this wonky living situation. I think someone who uses sex as a weapon and/or bargaining chip to get their way -- ugh.

You might reconsider if YOU want to be dating this person after they move out.

Galagirl
 
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Thanks Galagirl!

It's good to get the smackdown on myself as well, as I've been feeling the things you mentioned...

particularly the feeling of "If this isn't working for you, if its so hard to live with me and you need space and want to feel free, why did you ask to move in?/ you are welcome to find your own room anytime you like.."

they did pay my rent for the month they are staying, which was really nice, but I felt it might/ it has probably led to these issues of entitlement
 
I think a paying guest is still a guest. They have an obligation to not abuse hospitality.

Hotels don't let guests run amok. If they get too crazy they ask them to LEAVE, no refund and even seek damages. Same with theme parks, restaurants, apartments, and other venues where the person has to pay to get in or use the space.

If this person acts all entitled? Again... you may want to rethink dating them. You do not deserve to be treated this way.

Galagirl
 
Hi LokiAelf,

I think you should stick with the boundaries you set, and should even reconsider having a relationship with this lover of yours, since they are prone to take advantage of you.

I hope you can get things worked out.
Sincerely,
Kevin T.
 
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