Confused, New, Rambling, advice?

sundrop

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Hi all. I am not sure what I am doing writing on this forum, but here I am. So let's see what happens.

First off, I am very much a monogamous person, who is very muchly in love with a polyamorous one. We have been talking for almost a year, but in the last couple of months things have became VERY much more serious. Being the only mono here, I am in need of some major advice.

Harlan and his wife have been living this lifestyle for a little over 8 years, so they are very much okay with it, and it doesn't seem odd to them at all, which is wonderful for them. But I'm kinda lost, for lack of better words. They live together with her live-in boyfriend also, which is okay for all of them, who are constantly surrounded by each other and very close.

But for me it's kinda intimidating, almost. I mean, I rushed into meeting his wife and their children, because they meant so much to him that I just wanted to make him happy by meeting them. I was very glad I did, after I did it. But I realized at that moment how very hard this may actually be.

His wife is nothing like me. She is very muchly open with everything, her feelings, her thoughts, sometimes even things that don't need to be spoken about. I mean, I appreciate the fact that she pretty much has opened up her life to someone she barely knows, because she can see he loves me, but I'm also scared shitless.

Their perfect picture is someday us all living under one roof, being a big happy coexisting family. I don't know if I'm too mono, but I don't really think I could ever do that. I mean, it's hard for me to watch him show her affection, or talk about loving her, which I assume I will get used to, and it's just my human behavior getting the best of me. In my head, I know he loves her and his kids and I NEVER wanna come between them. I guess I just am wondering if it is selfish to want part of us to just be me and him. I don't need everyone knowing everything about me or us. I mean, I can hang out with all of them, and we all talk, but is there a point where I signed away all my privacy?? Does dating him mean I have to date them too? I know emotions are gonna get way worse before they get better. But I try to not get jealous that they are all constantly together and all happy, and I'm just chillin' alone doing whatever. I know its new and gonna take some work, but I need some direction. I tried talking to my friends and all I learned was that people can't grasp things they don't understand.
 
Hullo and welcome! If you haven't already, do a tag search on 'mono/poly' and read what others in similar situations have done.

His wife is nothing like me, very open with everything, sometimes even things that don't need to be spoken about. I appreciate that she has opened up her life to someone she barley knows, but I'm scared shitless. Their perfect picture is someday us all living under one roof being a big happy family.

What does not need to be spoken about? People have very different comfort levels when it comes to intimate details of their lives. From my experience, people who blabber the most about themselves usually are not that worried about privacy, and have more of a 'I have very few things to hide' -mentality. If you feel she is oversharing with you, you need to communicate that in a considerate, non-judgmental way.

I guess I just am wondering is it selfish to want part of us to just be me and him. I don't need everyone knowing everything about me or us.

Have you experienced breaches of trust on his part, in that he has been telling his wife intimate details of your life and your relationship with him? Because if you didn't agree to it, then it's not okay. You are entitled to your privacy just like any other human being is. I am one of those poly blabbers who talk about everything with everyone, but you obviously are not cool with it, and therefore, you need to negotiate clear boundaries with him and the other two on what is and what is not common knowledge.

I mean I can hang out with all of them and we all talk but is there a point where I signed away all my privacy?? Does dating him mean I have to date them too?

No, but it does mean you need to take into consideration that you four might have different definitions and expectations of these relationships. It seems they are looking for a fourth family member, and you are monogamous, willing to try polyamory, because you fell in love with a poly guy. They might have a hard time understanding that. So you need to tell them.

But I try to not get jealous that they are all constantly together and all happy and I'm just chillin' alone doing whatever. I know its new and gonna take some work, but I need some direction

Why are you chilling alone? Go out, meet friends, cultivate a new interest or revive an old one! Having life outside of the relationship is essential for many monos in mono/poly situations.
 
The only thing I would add is to talk to him about what your needs are. It sounds like you have thought of a few. Privacy is important to you for example.

You don't have to be like her, but taking her as she is might be helpful. It could be that she wants it all to work out so much that she over-talked and made herself overly vulnerable when you first met. I would think that would calm down with time. All of it will likely calm with time and as they all get to know you. What you need to think about is what you will do with YOUR time or whether or not you really want a relationship like this.

Oh yeah, and you don't have to date or be intimate with anyone you are not attracted to. That is not a poly rule.
 
His (and her) fantasy of forming a poly tribe doesn't have to become your fantasy, just because you're involved with him. You certainly have a right to your own autonomy and don't have to move in with them, date them, or even be friends with them if you don't want to. If you need a certain amount of distance, express that need to him. A polite and friendly acknowledgment of his wife and family should be sufficient if you do not wish to invest in that aspect of his life. If that isn't good enough for him and them, and he becomes insistent, then you both will have choices to make about whether to continue or not, and where to make compromises and set boundaries.

Don't ever feel that you should set aside your needs or put yourself in a situation that makes you feel like you are at odds with your convictions, or with what would make a relationship satisfying to you. A little discomfort is okay. We all learn and grow from that. But you shouldn't have to twist yourself like a pretzel into something you're not, just because he wants certain things from a relationship. You don't have to sacrifice your privacy, if that is important to you, and you shouldn't have to defend yourself for needing that, either.
 
There are many things to think about here. Maybe they have been in a swinging life for years, but seeing her husband totally in love with someone else has never happened before. Maybe this is all just as new for her as it is for you, and she just needs some time.

It is not necessary for you to “date” his family, too.

Just because she might have a way of how she would like life to turn out, doesn’t mean she doesn’t know that one day her husband will be splitting his time between your house and hers. It just might be easier for her to adjust to all of this upheaval right now by having you there so she can get used to it.

If she says something that bothers you, or that you don’t want to know, tell her that is isn’t something you want to hear. Like a wise person once said, “I’m not you. I don’t think like you, so you have to tell me.” I bet if you gave her a chance to work on herself, you will find life can be much better.

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I know, for me, EVERYTHING changed last night. My eyes are open now. I will leave you alone. I don’t expect you to come hang out with us because I know how you really feel about me now. I will respect your life and privacy. I won’t text you or try to talk to you if you don’t want.

He can live his life. I am not worried about me getting used to things anymore, because it doesn’t really matter. I have been trying to do everything I can to make transitioning into the life easier, but I guess I have been so worried about you and your feelings that I couldn’t see how I was acting.

I will need to know that when I do get time with him, as soon as I get off work, that the night will not be filled with all of this drama. That usually ruins what time I have with him. I know the last thing either on us needs is shit talking to him against the other. It is not good and I don’t do it to you. Every time I think things are going good, then SMACK, right in the face. I care about you because my husband loves you so very much and I never want to see him hurting. And I know when you do walk away from all of this because of whichever reason you tell yourself, he will be devastated. Everyone cares about you and I guess that sucks for you.

I am sorry if I was too….everything. Now that I know how you really feel about me, I will leave you alone.
 
hmm

That post was from when this all started. Things are way different now. Your rant's fine. I guess I should read the post. IDK what I wrote in it for sure, but sorry. lol
 
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