Feeling left out

GoWithTheFlow

New member
I'm in a polyamorous triad, I am newer to the relationship, and in many ways it's wonderful. However, my two partners are so used to just being with each other they've several times discussed or made big life changes without me present or considered, life changes that directly affect me and where I stand in the relationship.

This re-occruring narrative leads me to feeling like an accessory to their relationship. Several times they've said that they both want me as a primary partner and that they'll work on it, but I'm at my breaking point. I would rather be a secondary partner to them both, instead of pretending to be their primary. Is there a way to breach the topic of me becoming a secondary partner? Or how to address this continued exclusion from these big life decisions?
 
Hi, GoWithTheFlow,

Would you be able to expand upon your personal situation so as to give the forum a clearer picture of your current position? For example:

Are your partners a married or defacto couple? Do you all live together, or do you have your own place while they live together?

How did you come to enter the picture/how long have you been with them? Were you with one of your partners first, before becoming involved with the other?

What is the relationship dynamic like? (i.e. would you say you love them both "equally" now, or are you more intimately involved with one over the other?)

Most importantly, what kinds of life decisions are they making that affect you and your life, without consulting you?

I ask for clarification, because it's difficult to offer anything concrete in the way of advice without knowing some specifics, such as whether you all live together and how enmeshed you are with your partners' daily lives, family, finances,
etc.
 
More info

Hi,
My partners and I live together on a temporary basis. The two of them had been together for a year, and I'd known them both I dated either of them. We've been a triad fro a few months.

I began dating one, and eventually fell in love with the other member of the triad. In many ways it's healthy and idealistic.

I love them both equally and we've all said we're hopeful to build a life together. However, now I have doubts.

The biggest incidents were:

One of them, late at night, told me they wished to propose to our partner. This freaked me out, as it was late to get such news. I also thought I had made it clear that I was against marriage and I wouldn't want to in a relationship with someone married (personal limits). Once it was discussed with all three of us, we all agreed marriage was off the table.

The second major incident occurred recently. I've been living with them on a temporary basis. I had made an effort to find a place near their's so that while we could achieve some space, I would still be close. The other day the two of them announced to me they wanted to move out of their place and into a two person apartment, far from where I had been looking. I believe there was an expectation I would help them move, and make them a home I would not be apart of.

There's a pattern, in that the two of them are so used to each other that they talk about things that involve me, without me, and then present me with statements. This in turn makes me feel irrelevant. This extends beyond the big things, and into the smaller aspects of life (cancelling our dates to be with each other etc).

They have both said I'm a primary partner, but I feel manipulated and used. I would have been happy to be a secondary partner, with honest communication.
 
Several times they've said that they both want me as a primary partner and that they'll work on it, but I'm at my breaking point. I would rather be a secondary partner to them both, instead of pretending to be their primary. Is there a way to breach the topic of me becoming a secondary partner? Or how to address this continued exclusion from these big life decisions?

I think you just have to bring it up. Maybe like...

"It's been X weeks since we last talked about this. I have observed Y times that it happened again. I am not included in big life discussions that affect me. I know you guys said you would work on it, but it's not looking like it will come to pass any time soon.

So I would prefer not to keep expecting primary-ness and keep being disappointed. I rather be a secondary partner. As a secondary I expect to be treated like ..... Are you willing and able to do that?"

Secondaries have rights too. Even if you choose to change from primary to secondary you could be still treated well, informed when things will affect you, etc.

https://www.morethantwo.com/polyforsecondaries.html


If you are at your breaking point and feel manipulated and used... perhaps breaking it off entirely rather than "dialing it down" is the way to go. Only you can make that call. You are the one actually there.

Galagirl
 
Last edited:
Hi,
My partners and I live together on a temporary basis. The two of them had been together for a year, and I'd known them both I dated either of them. We've been a triad fro a few months.

Chronologically speaking, I don't see your position within the partnership as being terribly less "established" than theirs, considering your partners have only been together one year and you say you've been with them "a few months" - at least, not long enough for your partners to be SO very used to being a twosome that "couple privilege" would come into play without them being aware of it, as is often the case with couples who've been together for many years then bring in a "third".


One of them, late at night, told me they wished to propose to our partner. This freaked me out, as it was late to get such news. I also thought I had made it clear that I was against marriage and I wouldn't want to in a relationship with someone married (personal limits). Once it was discussed with all three of us, we all agreed marriage was off the table.

You're correct in describing your attitude toward marriage and not wanting to be involved with anyone married as a personal limit. That is YOUR boundary, and it's your right to stand firm on this.

That said, IF your partners had had a strong desire to marry each other, it would've been their right to do so. And if, after discussion with you, they couldn't be swayed from their plan to marry, you would then have to decide if you could live with that situation after all, or whether marriage would be a deal-breaker which would lead you to break up with them and go your own way. For the moment, it seems your partners have taken your wishes into consideration (albeit, belatedly) and decided to maintain the status quo.


The second major incident occurred recently. I've been living with them on a temporary basis. I had made an effort to find a place near their's so that while we could achieve some space, I would still be close. The other day the two of them announced to me they wanted to move out of their place and into a two person apartment, far from where I had been looking. I believe there was an expectation I would help them move, and make them a home I would not be apart of.

Your partners' behaviour in THIS instance seems less caring and respectful of YOU as a co-primary.

I assume they were aware you have been looking at finding alternative accomodations nearby and the reasons why? Obviously, from a practical point of view, it makes sense for you to live close by, if possible. It seems somewhat thoughtless if not downright rude to NOT consult you about their change of plans AHEAD of time, and preferably involve you in these discussions from the start.

Have you asked them why they decided to move some distance away from where you've been househunting? Without being privy to the work/financial/family/health situations of each triad member, it's hard to say if they have good reasons for wanting to move to a new neighbourhood. YOU need to find out what these reasons are, and why your own plans weren't taken into consideration before you can judge your next move, in my opinion.
 
Hello GoWithTheFlow,

It sounds to me like you already are a secondary partner (at best). They are just calling it primary to save face. I don't think they're treating you very well, although I assume you are to some extent just venting, and not mentioning the good things about this couple. Can I ask, what are your reasons for continuing with this couple? Are you just hoping they'll act better in the future, or are there things they do right now that you love?

Maybe the thing to say to them is that secondaries have rights that they are not respecting, and that if secondaries have rights, surely primaries deserve at least that much consideration. Ask them when they are going to start including you in discussions that will affect you.

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
Update:
One of my partners dumped me recently, after I asked to be a secondary. I was going insane. He would insist I was his primary and then his actions would say anything but.

When I confronted this he dumped me. Admitting he had unicorned me, and was incapable of having more than one primary partner.

I'm still with the other partner, but I feel so hopeless. I feel used, like I was an experiment. He refused to consider changing our relationship to a more casual basis.

I am very uncertain of where I stand with polyamory right now.

He has apologised but I am torn between my unconditional love for him, and the devastating hurt I'm feeling.

I would love to hear some advice as to whether I break things off with the other partner. He has criticised my ex for his treatment of me.

I love him, but every time we hang out his ex is texting him and I feel miserable afterwards.
 
I'm sorry. :(

You deserve better treatment than all that.

I think it is going to be hard to keep dating the other partner and heal from this. I think walking away from both might be better. You just are not getting the honesty and forthrightness you want in this situation.

If you feel you got use by your ex?

If your current partner criticizes the ex's behavior to you? Rather than to them? If after some time to reflect they keep ON dating them without saying anything about the poor behavior? It's pretty much going to feel like "I'm ok with my ex partner hurting you" even if they criticize their behavior. And on top of that, taking texts from someone who hurt you while on a date with you? Poor manners.

I would walk away from both, take time to heal, and date again when ready. Poly dating or not -- I think you could date people who treat you better than these two.

Galagirl
 
Last edited:
I am very uncertain of where I stand with polyamory right now.

Seems that you can safely say that where you stand with being "brought in as a third" and used as an experiment is something you'll never go near again. Polyamory is full of choices that do not include getting involved with two people at once. This forum community is a great place to explore those choices.
 
I agree with GalaGirl, I think dialing it back is a good idea by bringing up being a secondary partner. This gives you some power back, as in being in control of how much you invest (time, energy, planning, etc.). Also, maybe your partners need to hear how this has been for you so far to make positive adjustments in the relationship structure. It is early and that is important to remember, change takes time.
 
Re (from GoWithTheFlow):
"I love him, but every time we hang out his ex is texting him and I feel miserable afterwards."

Is there ever a time when you get some happiness from your relationship with this man? If not, then I would suggest you break things off with him.
 
He has apologised but I am torn between my unconditional love for him, and the devastating hurt I'm feeling.

I would love to hear some advice as to whether I break things off with the other partner. He has criticised my ex for his treatment of me.

I love him, but every time we hang out his ex is texting him and I feel miserable afterwards.

Hi, GoWithTheFlow,

Maybe I'm slow, but with all the "he" pronouns spattered across the text, I'm getting confused between your two partners (current and ex) and one of their ex partners(?)

Would you consider giving your partners and their OSOs (if any) nicknames to make your posts easier to read?
 
Back
Top